weight loss support pills/vitamins?

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inertiatic

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Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 15:45
at work i've been stocking shelves with this Herbalean weight loss support system and while i was looking through the 'fitness' section containing these products i started wondering if any of these were really worth it; what do you guys think about the different vitamins/pills/products they sell claiming to aid in the daily loss of weight? tried any?
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 15:55
I haven't tried any of them but from what my doctor has told me most of the medical variety are just combos of two things, diuretics and low grade laxatives so the weight lost is just that. Weight, not fat. The herbal variety are dangerous as they often contain bitter orange which is basically a natural substitute for ephedra which has been banned since 2004 After it killed Steve Bechler, a pitcher for the Orioles.
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kokusho

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Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 15:57
Well, a daily multivitamin is probably a good idea regardless of what you're doing. And whey protein is great after a workout. But as for "diet pills", I've never tried them because i know it's not necessary. Whether they work or not, I'd rather just keep the money and spend it on a nice steak...
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 15:58
For my diet, I take blue-green algae. Well, i don't think i necessarily take it for my diet. I take it for my health. Because i have MS, it is always good to cleanse your body from toxins. But it does help with weight loss. It helps with stubborn fats and muscle support.
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Pixiestyx

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Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 16:47
I have seen the commercial for hydroxycut several times and have to laugh. The people lose around 20+lbs in 8 weeks taking the pills according to the commercial. Then in fine print it says all participants in the study were put on lower calorie diets. I've lost same amount of weight with no pill by lowering calorie intake and eating healthier , not a single pill except daily vitamin. So basically the commercial is selling a pill you don't need and telling you just watch what you eat lol. Alli or however it is spelled is same thing. Tells you to eat better and exercise. Of course it has the added little side effect of more laundry if you don't change how you eat. I worked at a pharmacy where we sold Alli and there was a guy who said they work. But is it the pill or the new diet that really did the trick.
I think it's all just a way to make money.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 16:52
Waste of money and possibly dangerous, IMO. No thanks!
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 17:32
Not needed and I would agree with K8 - Waste of money!
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 17:42
I take a daily multivitamin just because I'm doing low carb right now, but I wouldn't trust any of those weight loss aids any farther than I could throw them. I even went so far as to research Alli once upon a time until I got to the fine print saying you might leak oil out of your butt at inopportune moments.

That was all I needed to make my decision.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010, 19:12
The only "diet" drugs that I know of that are safe are:

Phosphatydl Serine - this helps to control the "fight or flight" mechanism in your system that causes a glucose dump into your system. You'll find in the memory section of the vitamin area as it's been said it can help patients with alzheimers as well. The pure form (there are two types marketed) is what helps.

L-Carnatine - this is basically considered a "fat burner" as it's been proven to help break down long-chain fatty acids. You'll find it as an additive in stuff like protein powders.

CLA - another "fat burner" you'll find as an additive in some protein powders

Calcium - has been shown to aid in the transport of metabolized fat outside of the body. It has to be combined with another mineral in order to work correctly but the mineral escapes me at the moment.


Feel free to do an internet search on each one to see the studies/thoughts. All are naturally occurring items that you can get from your food or you can supplement with. They are also very expensive when taken in the doses outlined in the studies.

Keep in mind, there is no "magic pill". Even Alli is being suspected of causing liver damage these days. The best bet is an adequate diet with a variety of foods.
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Posted: 31 Dec 2010, 22:48
I've taken Alli and I farted at work, the worst thing ever! Now I have taken it since but I am def more aware of what I eat! That's so embarrassing and I can't believe I am even admitting to that but, hey it happens and I'm being honest.
I take 2 chewable vitamins a day, the kid kind. They're the only ones that don't make my stomach hurt. And that's what was recommended by my OB/GYN when I was pregnant. Most of those vitamins are water saluable so you just pee out what is not needed.
I have the ACAI berry pill too, all it does is gives you diarrhea, it def cleans out your system like it says it does.
My husband took the old school Stacker pill with ephedra, and played softball in the hot summer, not knowing it could kill him. We hsve bought the new ones and they give you energy but then you drop quick.
So I agree there is no magic pill. Hard work and eating right is the only way, even with surgery.
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Posted: 01 Jan 2011, 01:56
Drink matcha green tea.
It really does work because it has caffeine,which speeds up your heart rate and which burns more calories. I try to drink a cup before every meal, and I found that it gives me more energy and makes me more full before eating your meal. Try it!
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Posted: 06 Jan 2011, 11:56
My guess is that you would have the same results on a placebo as you would Hydroxycut or other "magic pills" of that ilk, provided the same diet,

I saw a commercial this passed weekend (go figure, just when New Years resolutions are being made in order to be broken all over the world) where a "Doctor specializing in fat loss" said that he found the key to weight loss. All you need to do is eat his "specially formulated" energy bar and drink 16 ounces of water 20 minutes before each meal. Magically, you will not eat as much at that meal (Really? Get out of town!!) IMO, these are probably detriments because the user gets discouraged and gives up when the “magic pill” doesn't work, thereby getting fatter…

In the interest of full disclosure, beyond what I take for my lack of thyroid (born w/o the thing), the only stuff I take on a regular basis are a fish oil and garlic supplements. Do they work? Well the fish oil was recommended by my doctor for the Omega-3 benefits and I’ve read in many places that garlic is nature’s strongest natural antibiotic. I eat a decent amount of garlic anyway, but I also haven’t been sick very much in the past 4-5 years. I know this goes against what I just said, except for anecdotal evidence. Whenever I feel that little tickle in the back of my throat, I use a garlic tablet as a lozenge and the cold normally doesn’t get any worse…

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Posted: 06 Jan 2011, 12:23
what about Gloucosamine and Chondroitin supplements for joint care/arthritis improvement? I've taken Osteo Bi-flex brand and I think it does help (less pain in knees) as long as I take it consistently and allow for about 4 weeks before I expect to feel a difference. Curious what others have experienced?
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Posted: 06 Jan 2011, 12:52
hmmm.. found this article. maybe my perceived improvement is just that "perceived" not real. maybe I will just save my money in the future.
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Posted: 12 Jan 2011, 10:53
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIGURE IN VITAMINS AND SUPPLEMENTS?
i'm taking up to 1350 calories of vitamins and supplements daily, but I want to maintain a 1500 calorie daily intake for food. This will give me almost 2900 daily calories..OMG!!!! Should I cut back? Does vitamins and other herbal pills even count when it comes to tracking your calories?
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Posted: 12 Jan 2011, 11:33
so funny that when you read how to use these pills they all come with a meal plan. that meal plan, if followed, would be all you needed to drop the weight. no need for the pills! lol.
save the money. make yourself out a healthy meal plan. stay within your calories per day. burn more calories by working out or taking the stairs~walking when you can. and...
like happyhealthy said, drink green tea! it is warm, little bit of caffeine and fills your tummy plus, will help all those veggies you are eating not turn into concrete as they move on down to be eliminated!
save the 50 bucks for a nice pair of jeans in a new size!! Smile
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Posted: 12 Jan 2011, 13:30
nellay wrote:
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO FIGURE IN VITAMINS AND SUPPLEMENTS?
i'm taking up to 1350 calories of vitamins and supplements daily, but I want to maintain a 1500 calorie daily intake for food. This will give me almost 2900 daily calories..OMG!!!! Should I cut back? Does vitamins and other herbal pills even count when it comes to tracking your calories?


What calories and vitamins are you taking that are 1350 calories??? I've never heard of that.
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Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 13:39
I take a daily supplement vitamin, fish oil and bladder wrack ( a sea weed with natural iodine). I'm just starting this regime as I have never done well taking vitamins in the past, except when pregnant. My supplements are about 50 calories total. I couldn't imagine taking so many supplements that its costing me 1350 calories of my diet. Good luck!
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Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 14:59
I think "supplements" should be just that...SUPPLEMENTS. You should get most of the nutrition you need from your food & fill in the blanks with supplements if you so choose. As others have said, whatever your body doesn't use gets peed out anyway, so if you're eating a reasonably nutritious diet & getting that little bit extra from your supplements, the rest gets flushed down the toilet, along with the money you paid for them.

@Nellay, if I were you, I would make a point to reevaluate the supplements I was taking in the context of my total daily intake to see if some of them could be eliminated. I would also consult my doctor or dietician to make sure I had a good understanding of what my daily needs are for each vitamin/mineral I'm trying to supplement.
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Posted: 16 Jan 2011, 15:25
I take a Centrum Silver (for women over 50), a fish oil tab (to aid with cholesterol reduction), a calcium w/vitamin D (to aid with averting osteoporosis as I am in menopause). I also take prescribed blood pressure med and lipitor.

Don't throw your hard earned money down the drain taking things unnecessarily and it is also possible to take too much or in the wrong combinations.

Let your medical advisor be your guide. Mine provided me information of what our dailys should be and then explained how to determine what you need to supplement based upon your daily diet. She does the monitoring and recommends changes to what I am taking based on the blood work which I get every 3 months since she is also monitoring my weight loss progress.
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