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Rajah1973

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 14:53
I am so frustrated and have been in tears today. I finally got my report back from the doctor. My Cholesterol has INCREASED!! I am so aggravated and feel like giving up. I mean, getting healthier was my BIGGEST motivation and now I am hearing it is doing more harm than overall good. When looking at the numbers, dieting and exercising has actually increased my risk for following in the footsteps of my whole family.
Oddity

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 15:08
What was the change? Dramatic? Or was it more that you expected a dramatic reduction and got a slight increase?
Rajah1973

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 15:11
Oh sorry.. Still very aggravated.. Over cholesterol was 211, and increase from 203.. LDL, which is the artery clogger was 142, and increase from 129. That's a pretty significant increase when you look at out hard it is to lower.
Oddity

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 15:13
You don't need to be sorry, I'd be really frustrated too.

What did the doctor advise? I know sometimes it's hard to get cholesterol down via diet, since your body makes most of it.
Rajah1973

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 15:22
Get this, and you may not believe me but it is true. He said, it was nothing to worry about!! Despite the fact that my whole family has dropped off from heart attack and heart disease. Including my dad who was only 34. Told me to come back in 6 months to retake! He also said that what I eat doesn't effect my cholesterol. I thought you are a quack, got a copy of my report and went to my friend. Who is a PA. I normally see her anyway, but, that day I couldn't get in to see her and had to have the labs done because it was my day off work.


She suggested I keep up what I am doing for another 6 weeks, and then retest. She said if it doesn't decrease we will have to come up with something else. I tell you the truth it is going to be so hard to keep up with this knowing my cholesterol is increasing. I don't want to end up with my cholesterol 265 again.
Oddity

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 15:29
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Get this, and you may not believe me but it is true. He said, it was nothing to worry about!!


Yeah actually doesn't surprise me at all.

First, I'd have to come in with a limb hanging by only it's tendon's to worry my own doctor.

Second, I looked up your numbers and I'm inferring you are in the borderline between no problem and edging into that gray area where the pharmaceutical companies want to sell you preventative medicine but probably don't have the research to back it up as actually beneficial.

Third, lots of biological stuff is weirdly variable day to day.
Rajah1973

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 15:34
Oddity,

Yes, My numbers are not too much of a concern for a normal person. But, I have HORRIBLE family history, overweight ( actually obese ), and a clotting disorder which puts me at a higher risk than normal people.

I have been struggling with my cholesterol numbers for a few years now. 199 being the lowest and 265 being the highest. It is such a rollercoaster. Before I couldn't complain that much as I wasn't even trying to live healthy and now that I am, it is such a disappointment to me.

I know I have to just press through and keep on keeping on, and trust in God, that all things work to the good for those that love him, but, human nature takes over and I worry. you know....
Ed Endicott

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 15:39
I would keep doing what you're doing but can I make an encouraging suggestion? I took a look at your diet calendar overview. I noticed the amount of fat you're eating in grams. Try working on keeping the fat level below 50 grams of fat - especially on days when you're eating less than 2000 calories.

If you can work on balancing the fat content and continue eating the way you've been eating, it will definitely help you out. The weight training you're doing is definitely helpful....have you tried adding some cardio?. Keep at it! Don't give up! You're doing terrific!
Rajah1973

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 15:45
Ed, Yes, Thank you very much. I have been thinking about trying to make even more changes to try to lower the fat intake. Also, I would love to add some cardio and have tried several time but my hip pain just won't let me. I exercise in the mornings, before work, ( if I exercise evenings I can't sleep at night ) and when I go to work, I am in so much hip pain that I can't hardly stand. I am a cosmetologist so standing is part of the job. I did pick up some really good exercise ideas on another thread that I am going to try though.

I am really open to any low fat suggestions anyone might have? I am not the best cook when it comes to cooking healthy. So I pretty much just end up eating the same foods everyday.
Ed Endicott

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 15:53
I've been trying really hard to stay away from stuff like cheese and fatty meat. I'm a huge carnivore so it's been tough for me too.

With relation to the cardio - you don't necessarily need to run or bike. If you can keep your heart rate up while you're weight training, that may help (circuit training while you're using the weight machines)...here's an article to get you started....

http://exercise.about.com/cs/cardioworkouts/l/aa022601a.htm

Keep at it!
kitkat57

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 15:58
Hi, I'm sorry about your report. That has to be so frustrating! My dr. threatened to put me on medication back in March. I was fortunate that through diet and exercise all my numbers came down to the normal range. I understand that that doesn't always happen to everyone. My dr seemed surprise mine dropped so low and so quickly. I don't know if it'll be of any help to you, but I try to keep my 'food' cholesterol to less than 200mg, my fiber over 25g (they say fiber is instrumental in helping lower cholesteral), keep my protein up, my fat down, and try to get in cardio almost everyday. I can't say I've been doing very good lately, but I'm determined not to let food 'beat' me this time. With your family history, I would also listen to your PA friend. Sounds like she has your best interest in heart. Good luck!
Oddity

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 16:00
I might try to swap out some of the saturated fat for unsaturated too, maybe? Would salty nuts satisfy your potato chip love? Blue Diamond Almonds has some wild nut flavors that totally hit my chip button.

You seem to like chili. It's not hard to make lower fat versions of chili. Check EatingWell.com.

I've been swimming more lately, man that is a serious cardio workout and NOTHING on my knees. Hard on the hair and skin though.
k8yk

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 16:19
I agree with the suggestion to get your fiber!
And I also agree with your doctor. Cholesterol numbers, from what I understand, fluctuate. Stress is worse for our bodies than almost anything. Try not to over worry youself!
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moutlaw

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 16:20
I am new to this website, but have tracked my food intake for years.

May I also recommend eating an extra meal rather than snack? I noticed most days your fat percentage overall is over half of your daily intake or twice as much as all your meals combined. If you are like me, I get hungry late afternoon around 2-4. I started having an afternoon meal of brown rice (1/4 to 1/2 cup) and some grilled chicken tenderloins or canned chicken. I always cook up a ton of grilled chicken and keep them in the refrig...along with cooked brown rice. I just heat them up when I get hungry. I generally dont stray to potato chips (im a salt freak) unless I have nothing better to eat!

Good luck!
k8yk

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 17:08
One more thing- I know this will get frustrating if people give you conflicting advice- but I would be more concerned with the calorie percentage coming from junky food like sweets or chips than any thing else. The great majority of your calories should come from nutritious foods. Sure, a treat here and there is fine, but I see more of these empty calories on your diet calendar than is probably good for you. You've done such a great job so far, but there are always ways to improve. Sugar is the number one concern to me. Your protein looks a little low, but I don't think your fat percentage looks too, too out of whack. Please ignore this if it is frustrating or unwanted advice, but this is what I would aim for:

20 g protein per meal
More veggies and fruit
Limit calories from empty sources to 200 per day max

But don't frustrate yourself! Small changes add up to big results Smile
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Rajah1973

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 17:26
Thanks everyone! I have been given some very good advice that I am going to take.

Kate,

Of course all advice is welcomed. I am not one to get angry with any advice offered. Unless I feel like it is an attack. Then I get more defensive than angry.

You are absolutely right. I have been eating more junk than I should. I am going to try to work on that too.

I worry about the extra protein because usually more protein means more cholesterol as well. I bought some protein powder with every intention on sprinkling a small amount over my meals, until I read the cholesterol content. Also, I tried taking in nuts to satisfy my salty cravings, but, that skyrocketed my fat.
k8yk

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 17:40
I always walk on eggshells giving specific dietary advice around here Smile You never know when people will get defensive!

Lean chicken and fish and pork are great ways to get protein. Also, Chili with extra lean ground beef or turkey really tastes *almost* as good. Nuts are great, but the quantity can make it or break it. A serving of almonds is 22 almonds, for example.

Actually you're probably one of the best "advice takers" on here Smile I should have remembered you really do take all the differing advice in stride. That's really a quality to be proud of. What doesn't bend breaks, right?
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Rajah1973

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 17:53
Kate,

Absolutely! I know for the most part you guys are only tryng to help. I am not by any means good at this. Remember, I lost most of my weight through starvation, and diet pills. It's not something I am proud of but it is true. After that route landed me in the hospital, I promised myself, and God, that I would never do that again. Which is why I am here. I really do want to do this the right and healthy way. I am the first to admit to anyone that I am very ignorant when it comes to weight loss, although more educated than before. I greatly do appreciate every piece of advice that is given to me and usually do try to take the most of it to heart.

By the way, I made some chili the other day with lean ground turkey and it was soooo yummy. I ate on it for two days, hehe, lol.. I bought ingredients to make it again, this time I am going to add more red beans, and no meat. I hope it turns out well. I am going to try to cut back on the dairy, ( God help me, I LOVE milk and cheese ) and see if that helps. I suggested going vegetarian to my provider, and she, knowing me, didn't think it was a good idea. And she's right, I probably would lose it all together and go milk/cheese eating crazy. I love the stuff. I could probably live without meat, which normally only consists of turkey, and chicken breast, maybe tuna. But I don't think I could give up the milk and cheese, lol..
Crysalismum

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 18:49
Hi, I am so sorry you have got diisappointing blood work after all your hard work. My hubby has been on lipitor for ever as he has a terrible family history (his mumma had her first heartattack at 39 and her cholesterol was 30 (3000 in US terms)- 6 times the acceptable limit, both my kiddos are skinny as but at risk of high cholesterol (my DD now 13 had high cholesterol at 2yr old and was also below the 20th percentile in weight) so all that said most of the cholesterol you have is made by your body not injested so when yor cholesterol is high your diet is modified to reduce borderline levels that you might add by the food you eat (usually only a 5% drop would be expected )if your levels are very high it is usually your body that makes it if his makes sense.
We have found that FISH OIL has VERY effectively reduced our cholseterol levels. There is a fish oil mg's measure on the bottle but the real value is the EPA. Woman need an EPA value of around 1200 to help with joint pain/ inflammation and levels of 900mg for cardiac health & brain health& cholesterol control.
This higher stregnth is well supported in journals and I buy the fish oil from the natrapath because they have the suitable strengths whereas the supermarket ones you end up taking 8 horse sized pills a day!!
I have alot of joint pain so it dual purpose for me and has reduced my cholesterol from 6.9 (our upper normal limit is 5.5 in australia) to 5.1- now not needing any lipitor to maintain just the fish oil.
Its worth a thought.
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C
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Blessed with 2 lovely daughters: M 13 & C 3

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sewitall8344

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 20:19
I think there is a recommendation to keep meat fat to less than 16 grams of sat fat. I know I am not doing what I should be but I am making healthier choices. I have an android phone so I have the app on my phone and now when I am out eating I am referencing it to try to make healthier choices. My cholesterol WAS over 300. I am on a statin and my last test was 211. That was before I found fatsecret so I am hoping my next test will be better. I am learning so much about the good fats, bad fats and healthier choices. I also have a reminder posted...."eat to live". And yes, I have cheated but I am doing better. So, one step at a time my friend.
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