Nutrisystem did me BAD, now what do i do?

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kklessig

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 08:51
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I began Nutrisystem the beginning of September, followed the plan 100% pure. I never lost ONE pound but gained about 30. My BP went sky high and the water retention I have experienced, and still do, was the most extreme of my life. I called and talked to NS counselors and ordered low sodium items. I had to go to see my doctor every three days for two weeks to get my BP under control and was put on water pills to rid myself of the retention. My doctor finally advised me to stop Nutrisystem but I really didn't want to throw in the towel yet as I wanted to give it another try....if I ballooned up with fluid retention after a two week NS break, I would stop forever. Well guess what? After my two week NS break, I went back on the diet 100% and regained 20 pounds of fluid retention (plus the 10 lbs of water i hadn't lost yet). Even with a doctor's letter stating my medical issues on NS, they won't refund my money for two months of misery. They will only refund me for any food not eaten and sent back. I'm so angry!!

However, I need to find a diet to lose weight, get off BP medications and rid myself of this fluid retention. Any suggestions of diets that will treat my body good and not harmfully? I am so desperate!! Any and all advice appreciated.

Thanks!!
xangelsarah

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 09:13
IF u need a diet plan weight watchers is good or u can calorie count too
tho are the two that work for me
sherilyn70

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 09:53
Gaining 20 pounds in water retentions sounds extremely far fetched to me. Also gaining 30 pounds in less than one month sounds absolutely ridiculous. The sodium levels in the NS food are only a tad bit high and will put you at the top of the sodium intake recommendations but not over.

I'm guessing you weren't actually eating on plan and following it properly since I can't see your food logs.

Nutrisystem follows the American Diabetes Association's guidelines and plan. There is nothing harmful about it unless you have allergies to soy (there is a lot of soy in their food) or can't do high protein diets.

I'm also confused at how you could start the plan in September yet have 2 months of misery when you took a 2 week break and that was only 1 1/2 months ago. That means you did about 30 days worth at max. I really hate it when people exaggerate.

As for the refund policy... you're right. They will refund you for the food. Why would they refund you the entire cost when you ate the food? You even admitted you kept going when you thought it was bad for you instead of stopping or taking advantage of the 7 day money back guarantee they offer.
chryseius

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 10:40
I'd suggest contacting a nutritionist, and by that I mean a registered dietician, to help you map out a food plan that will work with you. You may have underlining health issues that were being agravated by the diet. A dietician can help you find and cope with these issues.

k8yk

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 10:56
It definitely sounds like you have health complications that need special consideration. I second the suggestion to discuss this with a nutritionist. Your dr can most likely recommend one for your specific needs.

If anyone without health issues asked this question, I would suggest the not a diet diet which is what I did to lose the weight, just calorie counting and exercise. But since you do have the health issues, there are probably foods you should avoid.
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chryseius

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 11:05
K8yk, every time I see "not a diet diet" I laugh. In my day "just calorie counting and exercise" was the "Diet Diet", and we were all on it =)
k8yk

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 11:12
I know, but the word diet implies a temporary plan. I firmly believe a permanent change is needed to keep the weight off.
There is actually a difference between changing your lifestyle, and using calorie counting as a tool to educate yourself about what you are putting in your body, and going on a "diet". Though many people can't understand the difference because the diet mentality is so ingrained in us.
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Johanne

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 11:12
I'm with Kate. I'm on the "not a diet" diet. I am eating whole foods, whole grains, beans, frozen veggies and fruits with no additives and counting calories. I'm the healthiest I've been in 23 years. With your reaction, I would definitely see a registered dietitian and stay under the care of your Dr. until you get this under control. I would also check into food sensitivities. I accidentally went gluten free and found out I'm gluten intolerant. I went and had the tests to confirm it. You could have been reacting to something in the food that you are allergic to. Good luck with your journey.

Fear less, hope more, eat less, chew more, whine less, breathe more, talk less, say more, hate less, love more, and good things will be yours. -- Swedish Proverb

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sherilyn70

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 11:13
Well really nutrisystem is not a diet diet. It is absolutely inteded to be a lifetime change and can be followed for your entire life. It is calorie counting and balance... they just made a block system out of it using ada food exchanges. There's no gimmicky food or pills on it.

All of the food exchanges match up exactly to the ADA ones.

dairy/protein=12g carbs, 8g protein, 3g of fat, 100 calories
vegetable=5g carbs, 2g protein, 25 caloires
fruit=15g carbs, 60 calories
carb=15g carbs, 3g protein, trace of fat, 80 calories
fat=45 calories, 5g fat
protein = 3g fat and 55 calories

They then tell you which food exchanges to eat with every meal and snack throughout the day. Which magically puts you at the recomended outputs of about...

Calories: 1250
Carbs: 177g (56%)
Cholesterol: <200mg
Protein: 73g (23%)
Fat: 29g (21%)
Sat. Fat: 11g
Fiber: 33g
Sodium: 1800 mg
Sugar: 24g
k8yk

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 11:17
Nutrisustem is a diet. You don't stay on it for life. At some point you go back to eating real food, I assume.
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Johanne

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 11:20
chryseius, it's not a diet because this is the way Kate is still eating with slight modifications, and it's the way I will be eating for the rest of my life. It has to be something healthy, something you love and will continue to do after the weight loss. I'm studying nutrition and finding the most palatable ways to fit that into my life without following someone else's set, restrictive eating regime.

Fear less, hope more, eat less, chew more, whine less, breathe more, talk less, say more, hate less, love more, and good things will be yours. -- Swedish Proverb

Hara Hachi Bu! The problem is, when do you know you are? LOL!

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sherilyn70

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 11:22
Here's the breakdown if you don't use their premade convenience foods

Breakfast -- 1 protein + 1 fruit + 1 carb + 1 dairy/protein
Lunch -- 2 protein + 1 salad + 1 carb + 2 fat
Snack -- 1 dairy/protein + 1 fruit
Dinner -- 4 protein + 2 veg + 2 fat + 1 carb
Dessert -- 1 dairy/protein + 1 fruit

And then if you choose to go with convenience here it is with their entrees used instead:

Breakfast -- NS Breakfast Entree + 1 Fruit + 1 Dairy/Protein
Lunch -- NS Lunch Entree + 1 Dairy/Protein + 2 Vegetables
Snack -- 1 Dairy/Protein + 1 Fruit
Dinner -- NS Dinner Entree + 2 Vegetables + 1 Fat
Dessert -- NS Desert Entree
sherilyn70

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 11:24
k8yk wrote:
Nutrisustem is a diet. You don't stay on it for life. At some point you go back to eating real food, I assume.


No, you can stay on it for life with their Balance program. Or you can choose to move onto 100% flexing (which most of us do to some extent while in the weight loss stages as well). You just add in a few more protein and carb servings to maintain.

If you look at the post above this one you'll see I outlined the exchanges that are used for the weight loss stages. You don't need to use their premade foods to do it. You can even use their forums and get help even if you aren't buying anything and doing it on your own.

They do have registered dieticians that will evaluate every persons individual needs as well. I have learned a lot of tips from them over the last 6 months just from participating in their forums. I also see them giving advice to people not using their foods on how to make better choices and answering questions about if other brands of foods meet the standards.
Runesinger

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Posted: 24 Oct 2010, 12:10
I had a similar experience - high blood pressure and "puffiness." It turned out I had a lot of food allergies/sensitivities - wheat, oats, barley, rye, beans and peas, cashews, and peanuts. You might want to talk to a specialist for allergies/food sensitivities.

Since nutrisystem has a lot of soybean derivatives, soy sensitivity might be one to check out first. There are a lot of people with soy allergies. You might try eliminating beans and peas from your diet and see if that helps.

Really, just counting the calories, and eating normal food is a lot healthier than eating special diet foods. shakes, and powders.
chryseius

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Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 14:29
Johanne wrote:
chryseius, it's not a diet because this is the way Kate is still eating with slight modifications, and it's the way I will be eating for the rest of my life.


I know, but by definition "diet" without qualification is literally your "diet", as in the food and drink you consume. And the "not a diet diet" would infact be a diet (since you presumably consume food and drink at some point).

There is also some calorie restriction involved, and a clear plan of eating and exercise is maintained. In her specific example there are also some foods excluded because she chooses not to consume them.

I'm not knocking what she has to say. It works.

Of course I knew it would work, and will continue to do so if maintained. Because when I was a teenager that's how we all lost and/or maintained our weight. It was "the DIET", the way to lose weight, the way to maintain our figures. The eating plan if you will that got me through university, pregnancy, and many years still fitting into the same jeans I wore when I was 15. (Okay it took 2 months after my first child to get back into the jeans but the babyweight had a purpose and was therefore welcome).

My current weight gain was because I decided to take solace at the bottom of a plate. I could blame it on my health issues, but they were there when I was 127-132 lbs, and so it wouldn't be very valid Wink


k8yk

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Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 14:55
Sure, the true definition of the word diet just means "what you eat". We all have a diet. But the way the word is used (in America anyway) is to signify a specific, temporary plan aimed at weight loss, as in "on a diet".

Semantics. Nothing more.
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sherilyn70

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Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 17:22
So then you are admitting that Nutrisystem is not a "diet diet"? Since it is by no means a temporary plan and is a long term one that teaches people about nutrition that would make it lifestyle change diet. There is nothing temporary about eating healthy food exchanges like vegetables, lean proteins, dairy and low glycemic foods. Their pre made foods are as optional (and interchangeable) as eating a frozen dinner from Lean Cuisine or Kashi that you picked up at the store. You can cook your own meals from scratch if you wish (they even make a cookbook). All the plan does is reduce caloric intake during the weight loss stages (just like you did) while eating healthy. Once you hit goal you slowly raise your caloric intake levels until you stay level.
k8yk

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Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 17:31
Sure, if that's how you think of it, then that's what it is. However, I don't think that's how most people think of it (which is their fault, I guess, although the commercials don't say much about what you'll do to maintain the loss) I think most people think "I'll do X (weight watchers, nutrisystem, atkins, etc) to lose this 30 pounds and then never give a thought to what they will do later. If you just blindly eat the nutrisystem foods without thinking about it, then it is a "diet diet". I guess you can make anything a permanent lifestyle change, but some things seem less plausible than others (like eliminating whole food groups, etc.)
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sherilyn70

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Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 17:46
Well considering that NS eliminates no food groups I think it's safe to say that can be considered heatlhy and plausable. I'll also point out that just because the ads don't talk about the end plan doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The very first book they send you with your food has information on the exchanges and you do have to buy your own fresh food. You never ever ever will eat only their foods. They teach you sustainability and portion control. You can't even just blindly eat on their plan since you have to go to the store and buy produce, vegetables, dairy, proteins, fats and carbs.

If people choose not to learn anything from it it's because they didn't want to. Just like the many people that lose weight only by reducing calories instead of changing their habits. You have to actually want to change for it to mean anything.

Unless you actually sign up on the site for the free tools you won't be able to see what I'm talking about. They do have a small hint at it though on this page: http://www.nutrisystem.com/jsps_hmr/catalog/menu/additions.jsp
Johanne

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Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 17:47
Kate, my very first day on here, I read a journal that said how hungry, sick and weak the person felt and how she just wanted something . . . anything. I read her food diary for the day and instantly posted that she really MUST eat. She wasn't getting enough this and that and the other, etc. OMG! I didn't know my way around yet and I had accidentally posted on an Atkins thread. I was called "stupid", "ignorant" and every other name in the book. People are very protective of their "diets". I personally couldn't even think of Nutrisystem, because I couldn't possibly afford it (or Lean Cuisine or Kashi, etc.) Like you, I went the route of figuring out how I could eat a balanced diet (in my case a cheap diet) and restrict calories, healthfully, on my own. When I finish losing, like you, I will figure out, slowly, how much I can add back in.

@kklessig, as Sherilyn said, figure out what the nutrisystem meals are comprised of, and try to duplicate the kinds of foods and amounts with whole foods, without salt and additives, without soy if it turns out you are sensitive to it. It really isn't hard. Check out any of the food diaries of any of the successful losers on here and pick one that sounds good to you. Kate's diary is a good place to start.

Fear less, hope more, eat less, chew more, whine less, breathe more, talk less, say more, hate less, love more, and good things will be yours. -- Swedish Proverb

Hara Hachi Bu! The problem is, when do you know you are? LOL!

Calories are the little buggers that get into your wardrobe at night and sew your clothes tighter.



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