The exercise journal has to be off!

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Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 00:50
According to the exercise journal, I am burning close to 3000 calories a day, by resting all day and sleeping. That's not what I'm doing, but thats the values it starts out at, when I try to put something in. If that were the case, I would be losing weight all the time. There is no way that's accurate. Any help?

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Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 01:17
It's based on your weight. I had the same reaction to it, and it is probably a tad high, but close.

I discovered that I was eating a lot more than I thought once I started really honestly recording everthing I ate. But I had to measure everything to be sure beacause I was way off on portion sizes. It is easier to eat 3000 cal or more without even knowing it. At your current weight, I lost weight eating 2000 calories a day.
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Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 07:18
I contacted FS about the exercise issue (everyone seems to think the calories burned are high). They use MET's which makes sense. I still think they are on the high side and suggested that they let users override the calculated burn rate as well as enter custom exercises.

how the exercise diary works

You can use the Exercise Diary to estimate how many calories you are burning, based on the intensity of the physical activities you do on a given day.

FatSecret estimates your calories burned according to the Metabolic Equivalent (MET) level of each activity or exercise.

1 MET is the amount of energy your body uses when you are at rest (sitting or lying quietly while perhaps reading a book, talking on the phone or watching television).

Different physical activities have different METs. The more intense the activity or exercise, the higher the MET.

Please note that there are many factors that may contribute to your total calories expended. Total energy requirements may vary according to gender, age, muscle mass, height and other genetic and environmental factors.
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Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 08:23
I use this site to check the fatsecret calorie total from exercise:

Every time I use it it's within 200 calories of fatsecret's totals for the day. It's really not off by much.

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Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 08:55
thought i'd chime in, here's the calorie counter i use.
not saying it's any more accurate, but it has a lot of exercise options fat secret doesn't.

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Posted: 27 Apr 2010, 14:41
Thanks for the replies everyone. They need to factor in BMI to be more accurate, I think. But everything else is great, so it's good enough.

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Posted: 29 Apr 2010, 15:40
I recently had a body composition analysis done using the Cooper Institute methods, including ultrasound to determine the thickness of my fat layer at many different points. It calculated my basal metabolic rate (calories burned if I lay down all day long) as 1536 cal/day. Fat Secret shows my BMR to be 2166 cal/day. I wish there was an over-ride choice, just like you can over-ride the calculated RDI.

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Posted: 29 Apr 2010, 16:17
To me, the value in FS is definitely not the calories burned side of things. I see it as a great tool for tracking calories consumed, staying within a range you designated and as a way to stay motivated. I think you have to do your own research and evaluation to determing how many calories you need.

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Posted: 29 Apr 2010, 16:36
Someone made a good point on the calories burned by exercise.

If you burn 100 calories during 30 minutes of stationary bike riding, that isn't an incremental 100 calories. You would have burned 25 calories sitting in front of the TV. So, it's only an incremental 75 calories you burned.

I think that's a good point.
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Posted: 30 Apr 2010, 03:00
So... one of the links that was posted about calorie counters said this:

To lose one U.S. pound (.454 kg), you must burn 3,500 more calories than you take in as food.

Does that make sense? Plus, maybe I didn't enter 24 hours worth of minutes on that site, but it said my calorie burn was REALLY low... I'm sticking with FS - regardless of the values, it's still working for me!

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Posted: 30 Apr 2010, 06:07
I was also shocked to see ho many calories you burn pretty much doing... nothing. It highlighted to me that it almost entirely is about how much you consume rather than the uber exercise that you see on Biggest Loser.

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Posted: 30 Apr 2010, 08:27
Sor of incentivises you to do less peversely??

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Posted: 30 Apr 2010, 09:17
Valnessa, the crazy amount of excercise they do on Biggest Loser is just so that they can lose those HUGE numbers every week, which are really unrealistic numbers for most normal people trying to lose weight. Excercise is still INCREDIBLY important to weight loss because it increases your metabolism and helps you tone and strengthen your body.

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Posted: 30 Apr 2010, 11:06
Totally agree with thoj - it would be a mistake to underestimate the importance of exercise. It does, indeed, increase your metabolism. I have a bodybugg that tracks how many calories I'm burning during exercise (and rest, for that matter). On the days I exercise, I burn an average of about 650 calories more. Which is a couple hundred more than the bodybugg shows for the actual period of exercising (it has a feature that's a "trip" monitor)but goes to show that it boosts calorie burn for a long time following exercise. The other important factor with exercise is that we want to lose FAT, not necessarily or strictly pounds. When we restrict our calories and don't exercise, we lose as much muscle tissue as fat. That's not what we want, right? So yes, exercise is critical for FAT loss. And of course, it has all the other health benefits such as cardiovascular health, staving off diabetes, metabolic syndrome, and even cancer. They used to think that fat wasn't metabolically active, but have found that's not true. Body fat feeds cancer cells, among other harmful things it does to our organs. The importance of exercise cannot be overstated.

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