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Spresto2

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Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 00:50
I am way new here, but it didn't take me long to stumble upon this MOMANDWIFEHGC diet where people are losing 1-2 lbs./day?? I am so curious, I read some of the info on the website. But my question is, Where is a reputable website to purchase the HGC? Anyone have some experience with it they would like to share? THANKS!
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DeniseTra

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Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 07:14
That is a scary way to loose weight IMO.

http://www.dietsinreview.com/diet_column/07/hcg-diet-look-elsewhere-for-weight-loss/

People gain it right back because nothing has changed in their diet.
PeeFat

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Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 07:39
I'll re-post this for you. It could save your life. Read before using HGC !

She is talking about the Hcg diet. IT CAN KILL YOU. It is also a yo-yo diet. As soon as you start eating normal again, you will gain all the weight back with vengance.

Please Read: Important health warning associated with this starvation diet.

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Posted on January 16, 2009
Filed Under Health & Wellness, Science & Medicine, Weight Loss

Many people, when hearing of a “new magic-bullet,” don’t want to hear anything other than how it can help them and where they can obtain their new-found cure or miracle. The emotional turmoil of struggling with weight-issues blinds many people to the obvious fallacies propagated by those selling the new cure, as well as the many risks associated with invasive attempts to alter their appearance. If you want to take a risk with a new diet remedy, that’s your decision; but there are at least two-things you should know about hCG first: For starters, it’s not new; and, it’s never been conclusively shown or proven to cause or increase weight-loss – not even by the guy who suggested this “new” method of dieting over 50-years ago.


In 1954, A.T.W. Simeons, a British physician, introduced this new method of dieting in which a reduced-calorie diet was coupled with injections of a pregnancy hormone – hCG. Simeons himself said that patients would not lose more weight with hCG than without it; he simply indicated that the hCG could help dieters sustain the diet and possibly cause the weight-loss to target specific areas (e.g. hips, belly, and thighs). In studies conducted since the introduction of this approach, all weight-loss has been attributed to the 500-kCal/day diet; and no difference in weight-loss or body proportion has been evident between those using hCG and those not using hCG. Thus, hCG has been repeatedly shown to be ineffective for increasing weight-loss and is “largely rejected,” by authors of these studies, for administration for weight-loss. The bottom-line, according to medical experts, is that hCG should not be used for weight-loss.

Now for the really good news – if you use hCG, your buoyed hopes and emotions may make the 500-kCal/day diet easier to tolerate. In fact, with hCG or placebo, you are sure to lose weight. But what’s the point? We all know that diets simply don’t work; and as soon as you stop starving yourself, your body will replace what it’s lost with a vengeance. In other words, your body will regain the lost weight and add even more weight to provide a buffer should you decide to starve yourself again. We’ve all seen this “rebound” phenomenon time and time again. A 500-kCal/day diet is difficult for a reason; the hCG – in some cases – simply makes it a little easier to do something that you shouldn’t do – something you know doesn’t really have lasting positive effects and something that will probably backfire anyway. And at what cost are we continuing to trick and manipulate our bodies?

Here’s a list of some of the possible negative effects of hCG:

¦Ovarian Hyper-stimulation Syndrome (OHSS) – which is a life-threatening condition
¦Arterial Thromboembolism - another potentially life-threatening condition
¦Blood clots
¦Risk of multiple pregnancies (twins, triplets, quadruplets, etc.)
¦Abnormal enlargement of breasts in men (gynaecomastia)
¦Over stimulation of the ovaries causing production of many ova (eggs) in women
¦Acne
¦Tiredness
¦Changes in mood
¦Irritation in area of use
¦Excessive fluid retention in the body tissues, resulting in swelling (edema)
¦Hair loss
¦Prostate hypertrophy
If hCG didn’t work and had no negative effects, then there would be no big deal; you could use it for whatever placebo value it may offer without worry or risk. But hCG does have very real potential negative effects – some of which could be life-threatening. Besides the fact that there is a huge black-market for hCG, and there’s a very large risk of getting a “substandard,” or “impure” product from an unknown source or manufacturer; there are very real health risks associated with this particular hormone. Even if you get it from your doctor, you still only know the source of the prescription – not the drug itself. And, depending on what type of hCG you use, and how you use it, the chances of experiencing one of the negative effects (which obviously range in severity) vary from 30% to an insane 45%. That’s like tossing a coin with your health knowing that you’ll either win and get no real, lasting benefit, or lose and possibly suffer greatly – or maybe even develop a life-threatening condition for the chance to lose some weight by starving yourself. Some people have been lucky with hCG; but some haven’t — and long-term studies have proven very disappointing for those hoping for a “permanent” cure. If you decide to toss this particular coin – good luck.
PeeFat

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Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 08:06
DeniseTra wrote:
That is a scary way to loose weight IMO.

http://www.dietsinreview.com/diet_column/07/hcg-diet-look-elsewhere-for-weight-loss/

People gain it right back because nothing has changed in their diet.


If you try to post the true dangers of hcg and post on that site. It won't go up. They edit the negative posts and only allow the posts supporting hcg. I tried.
k8yk

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Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 10:34
There is NO magic bullet! Not a healthy one. Not one that will help you keep the weight off.
NOBODY should lose 1-2 pounds a DAY. It is very dangerous.
2 pounds a week is the maximum amount of weight most sources agree you should lose for optimum health and likelihood of keeping it off.

I know losing weight the healthy way is a long and arduous road, but it is NOT worth risking your health over one of these dangerous drugs or starvation plans. Being thin won't do you any good if you don't have your health.
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Spresto2

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Posted: 24 Feb 2010, 21:05
Okay! Good info! In other words, too good to be true. I don't wanna die dieting. Thanks for heads up and definitely not into purchasing black market drugs. That's a recipe for disaster in itself. Yes, dieting the right way basically sucks!
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sunflower920

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Posted: 06 Aug 2010, 20:10
It appears that i am quite late to the game here, but i stumbled across this while poking around the internet for others' views on the hgc weight loss method. After reading some of the answers, i registered solely to reply to this thread. If i stumbled across it then i'm sure others will as well.

The "hgc diet" has been around for quite a number of years by a physician. I got it's full history of theories and development in the research packet my doctor gave me to look over after i expressed an interest in it. Commercialism and gimmicks have unfortunately taken over and as a result the method is now widely viewed as a fad diet.

First of all, if you choose this method, it should be administered and completely monitored by your doctor. After spending many informative sessions with my own doc and his nurse, i've decided that the vast majority of websites pertaining to the diet are not reputable, have incorrect information, and seems to focus on selling a visitor something rather than health.

It is a difficult diet. It takes willpower to stay on the correct foods. It is not a cure all (especially if you're an emotional eater like myself.) On the other hand, if properly screened and monitored by a physician, it works and it works well. I've found that the results are well worth the effort. My doctor administered my first injection almost two years ago. I am happy to report that my health is just as good (better actually since i'm no longer overweight) as it was back then and my weight has stayed consistent. It helped me to look at the diet as a jump start. It got me excited and motivated and it proved to me that i can feel good about myself again. That prompted me to make better choices about my food intake and health in general. Any effects of diet can be faulty if a patient reverts to poor eating habits post-diet.

The "drug" (which it is not) is not black market. The nurse at my office procured it legally then measured and mixed with sterile water herself. Nothing illegal. Maybe not FDA evaluated for its claims of success, but not illegal by any means.

Please don't be scared of or enticed in to anything you have not fully researched yourself.

People have lost weight successfully in a variety of different ways. This happened to work for me. Something totally different or possibly the same way may work for you. Just stick to the facts. Talk to your doctor in depth (i.e. possible health risks, psychological readiness, expectations.) Most importantly use everything correctly and as prescribed.

BTW...if you are looking for a good book on how to change your eating habits, try Sugarbusters. The focus is on a lifestyle change and then weight loss secondary to eating healthfully.
sunflower920

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Posted: 06 Aug 2010, 20:24
One more quick thing about something i noticed stated in a post regarding hgc being a yo-yo diet. Usage of hgc should be limited (and was when my doctor was monitoring me)because you can develop immunity easily. It's physically impossible to be yo-yo-ing with this diet. If administered properly, the diet works. If used improperly, the string on the yo-yo breaks and it's rendered useless.
ebivr

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Posted: 06 Aug 2010, 20:34
Hi Spresto2, I've lost 20 lbs!! in the last 12 days (Atkins is 15 lbs in 14 days) & get my rx hCG from All Day Chemist, but Reliable RX Pharmacy & Pharmacy Escrow are also good, whether you want to inject or mix your own rx hCG (sublingual) drops.

And for homeopathic drops there's a one months FREE trial running at the moment: They're charging only $1.95 S&H for a 30 day free trial bottle of hhCG at: http://www.powerhcg.com/trial/index.php

That is ALL you pay for a one months supply. You can then choose to either become a member for a fee or cancel. You have to cancel your free trial within 14 DAYS otherwise after those 14 days are up you will be automatically signed up as a member, sent new batches of hhCG every month for $19.95 per month & charged an enrollment fee of $179.95!!!. Yikes! So don't forget to CANCEL!

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*Offer details: By placing my order, I agree to the Terms of Offer, which explain that I must cancel within 14 days of today to avoid enrollment in the monthly delivery program which ships fresh supply and charges $19.95 monthly (80% savings) and one time discount diet club membership fee of $179.95 (non-refundable). You will be charged on same card provided today. To cancel anytime call: 800-581-8352 M-F 9 AM - 5 PM MST

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"Never apologise for who you are"
"Leave as little negative impact on the world as possible"
"Last night fear knocked on my door, faith answered and no one was there"
Even if it's slow it's going to Go!

Starting weight: 318 lbs!! 2nd of June 2008, (Calorie Counting!).

June 08 Month 1: 298 lb (20 lb. lost). July 08 Month 2: 291 lb (7 lb. lost). August 08 Month 3: 279 lb (12 lb. lost). September 08 Month 4: 268 lb (11 lb. lost). October 08 Month 5: 257 lb (11 lb. lost). November 08 Month 6: 248 lb (9 lb. lost). December 08 Month 7: 235 lb (13 lb. lost).

January 2009 Month 8: 229 lb (6 lb. lost). February 09 Month 9: 223 lb (6 lb. lost). March 09 Month 10: 211 lb (12 lb. lost). April 09 Month 11: 208 lb (3 lb. lost). May 09 Month 12: 210 lb (+2 lb. gained). June 09 Month 13: 188 lb (22 lb. lost). July 09 Month 14: 181 lb (7 lb. lost). August 09 Month 15: 179 lb (2 lb. lost).

Starting weight: 305 lbs!! 19th of November 2013, (Atkins!).

November 2012 Month 1: 297.2 lb (7.8 lb. lost). December 2012 Month 2: 292 lb (5.2 lb. lost). January 2013 Month 3: 276.8 lb (15.2 lb. lost). February 2013 Month 4: 262.6 lb (14.2 lb. lost). March 2013 Month 5: 276.6 lb (+14 lb. gained). April 2013 Month 6: 253.4 lb (23.2 lb. lost). May 2013 Month 7: lb ( lb. ).
leahl

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Posted: 06 Aug 2010, 21:23
Wow ebivr are you selling the stuff now? Don't try to persuade people to buy into this delusion. This is absolutely ridiculous. Please don't listen to this crap original poster! Ps go ahead and tell me I have no right to judge you based on this diet, I can and I will, and I don't really care anymore.
apaulson

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Posted: 06 Aug 2010, 21:28
sounds like spam to me
k8yk

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Posted: 06 Aug 2010, 21:38
What happened to Dr's supervision? I simply would not inject myself with something I bought off the Internet regardless of what it was supposed to do. That's messed up.
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ebivr

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Posted: 06 Aug 2010, 21:38
Nope! Not selling or affiliated with any of the sites mentioned. I just believe in ketogenic diets, be they hCG, Atkins, South Beach, Medifast, Lighter Life or what ever!

"Do what thou wilt shall be the the Law, Love is the whole of the law, Love before will, The meaning of life is to Love"
"Never apologise for who you are"
"Leave as little negative impact on the world as possible"
"Last night fear knocked on my door, faith answered and no one was there"
Even if it's slow it's going to Go!

Starting weight: 318 lbs!! 2nd of June 2008, (Calorie Counting!).

June 08 Month 1: 298 lb (20 lb. lost). July 08 Month 2: 291 lb (7 lb. lost). August 08 Month 3: 279 lb (12 lb. lost). September 08 Month 4: 268 lb (11 lb. lost). October 08 Month 5: 257 lb (11 lb. lost). November 08 Month 6: 248 lb (9 lb. lost). December 08 Month 7: 235 lb (13 lb. lost).

January 2009 Month 8: 229 lb (6 lb. lost). February 09 Month 9: 223 lb (6 lb. lost). March 09 Month 10: 211 lb (12 lb. lost). April 09 Month 11: 208 lb (3 lb. lost). May 09 Month 12: 210 lb (+2 lb. gained). June 09 Month 13: 188 lb (22 lb. lost). July 09 Month 14: 181 lb (7 lb. lost). August 09 Month 15: 179 lb (2 lb. lost).

Starting weight: 305 lbs!! 19th of November 2013, (Atkins!).

November 2012 Month 1: 297.2 lb (7.8 lb. lost). December 2012 Month 2: 292 lb (5.2 lb. lost). January 2013 Month 3: 276.8 lb (15.2 lb. lost). February 2013 Month 4: 262.6 lb (14.2 lb. lost). March 2013 Month 5: 276.6 lb (+14 lb. gained). April 2013 Month 6: 253.4 lb (23.2 lb. lost). May 2013 Month 7: lb ( lb. ).
chuckledust

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Posted: 06 Aug 2010, 21:48
If you also believe in homeopathy then I'm afraid I can't take what you suggest seriously.
leahl

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Posted: 07 Aug 2010, 05:11
Believe in them all you want, but stop trying to "convert" people. If you want to starve yourself go ahead but don't suggest that other people do it too.
ebivr

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Posted: 07 Aug 2010, 06:35
Oh & there was me thinking I was actually ANSWERING the questions.

- 1) Experience
- 2) Reputable Websites

"Do what thou wilt shall be the the Law, Love is the whole of the law, Love before will, The meaning of life is to Love"
"Never apologise for who you are"
"Leave as little negative impact on the world as possible"
"Last night fear knocked on my door, faith answered and no one was there"
Even if it's slow it's going to Go!

Starting weight: 318 lbs!! 2nd of June 2008, (Calorie Counting!).

June 08 Month 1: 298 lb (20 lb. lost). July 08 Month 2: 291 lb (7 lb. lost). August 08 Month 3: 279 lb (12 lb. lost). September 08 Month 4: 268 lb (11 lb. lost). October 08 Month 5: 257 lb (11 lb. lost). November 08 Month 6: 248 lb (9 lb. lost). December 08 Month 7: 235 lb (13 lb. lost).

January 2009 Month 8: 229 lb (6 lb. lost). February 09 Month 9: 223 lb (6 lb. lost). March 09 Month 10: 211 lb (12 lb. lost). April 09 Month 11: 208 lb (3 lb. lost). May 09 Month 12: 210 lb (+2 lb. gained). June 09 Month 13: 188 lb (22 lb. lost). July 09 Month 14: 181 lb (7 lb. lost). August 09 Month 15: 179 lb (2 lb. lost).

Starting weight: 305 lbs!! 19th of November 2013, (Atkins!).

November 2012 Month 1: 297.2 lb (7.8 lb. lost). December 2012 Month 2: 292 lb (5.2 lb. lost). January 2013 Month 3: 276.8 lb (15.2 lb. lost). February 2013 Month 4: 262.6 lb (14.2 lb. lost). March 2013 Month 5: 276.6 lb (+14 lb. gained). April 2013 Month 6: 253.4 lb (23.2 lb. lost). May 2013 Month 7: lb ( lb. ).
leahl

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Posted: 07 Aug 2010, 06:49
There really are no reputable websites that you can provide because they all sell hcg, like you probably are. How much is your referral bonus and/or commission? Hope it's worth it.
leahl

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Posted: 07 Aug 2010, 06:56
Oh, and I see in your answer to another hcg question that you didn't follow the program exactly and gained back all the weight you lost, plus some. Why would you recommend a diet that didn't work?
ebivr

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Posted: 07 Aug 2010, 07:05
Ok I'm just gonna ignore false accusations made by ignorant assumptions about my person. Especially as I've ALREADY answered the question as to my association or affiliation with ANY company selling hCG products.

*I <3 ketogenic diets!!*

"Do what thou wilt shall be the the Law, Love is the whole of the law, Love before will, The meaning of life is to Love"
"Never apologise for who you are"
"Leave as little negative impact on the world as possible"
"Last night fear knocked on my door, faith answered and no one was there"
Even if it's slow it's going to Go!

Starting weight: 318 lbs!! 2nd of June 2008, (Calorie Counting!).

June 08 Month 1: 298 lb (20 lb. lost). July 08 Month 2: 291 lb (7 lb. lost). August 08 Month 3: 279 lb (12 lb. lost). September 08 Month 4: 268 lb (11 lb. lost). October 08 Month 5: 257 lb (11 lb. lost). November 08 Month 6: 248 lb (9 lb. lost). December 08 Month 7: 235 lb (13 lb. lost).

January 2009 Month 8: 229 lb (6 lb. lost). February 09 Month 9: 223 lb (6 lb. lost). March 09 Month 10: 211 lb (12 lb. lost). April 09 Month 11: 208 lb (3 lb. lost). May 09 Month 12: 210 lb (+2 lb. gained). June 09 Month 13: 188 lb (22 lb. lost). July 09 Month 14: 181 lb (7 lb. lost). August 09 Month 15: 179 lb (2 lb. lost).

Starting weight: 305 lbs!! 19th of November 2013, (Atkins!).

November 2012 Month 1: 297.2 lb (7.8 lb. lost). December 2012 Month 2: 292 lb (5.2 lb. lost). January 2013 Month 3: 276.8 lb (15.2 lb. lost). February 2013 Month 4: 262.6 lb (14.2 lb. lost). March 2013 Month 5: 276.6 lb (+14 lb. gained). April 2013 Month 6: 253.4 lb (23.2 lb. lost). May 2013 Month 7: lb ( lb. ).
dadams10

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Posted: 07 Aug 2010, 07:12
I recommend doing it through your doctor; that is what I did. I lost 15 lbs in my 23 day round. It's only been about two weeks since I've finished, but I've been doing the maintenance phase and it's working incredibly. (Please no comments from people who hate this diet about how they don't want to hear from me until I've maintained this for a year. I am merely answering the question where it was requested to share my experience.) My doctor recommend I NOT count calories anymore. I counted for the first few days after quitting my injections (in case I had problems maintaining). He reminded me that this is all about getting into "normal" eating. "Normal" eaters don't count everything they put in their mouth; they listen to their body. But.. if you're curious I'd estimate I eat between 1800-2000 calories a day. I've had no problem switching back to 'normal' eating. I had so many bad habits regarding my food and eating. I have very addictive/obsessive/compulsive tendencies in my personality (it runs hard core in my family) and food was a massive battle for me. I am a very active person and have always been. I hike, swim, play (I'm an elementary school teacher/summer babysitter), run (half marathoner) and love to be active. For me exercise was not my issue. I exercised all the time. My personal battle was my food.

I will not go into detail, because I know many people don't want to hear it, *nor am I hear to argue it*, but to ANSWER YOUR QUESTION - if you can get your hands on Dr. Simeon's "Pounds and Inches" manuscript it explains in details how phase two of the diet works (I didn't do phase one, I think this Kevin Truduea ... or whatever his name is... guy is a little nuts. Personally I do not recommend reading him). This diet has been all about learning to listen to my body and eat when I was hungry and stop when I was full, and redefine "normal weight" for my body. I DO realize this is an extreme diet, but for me personally it has been an invaluable and positive experience. I read the book "The HCG Weight Loss Cure" (Prinster) which was very helpful; it gives much more detail about phase three, ie it explains what to do after you stop the injections and the lifestyle change that comes with this. (I bought the self-guided edition even though I did it through my doctor. It actually has a copy of Simeon's manuscript in the back.) Of course if you don't implement a lifestyle change you will gain all the weight back. No 'diet' is a magical cure. You must change your eating! I struggled with obsessing over food. For me, this diet was a means to break the bad habits to implement a lifestyle change.

Long story short (too late) - my personal experience was seeking the guidance of my doctor on this. This is not a clinic that charged me crazy high amounts of money. It is just a regular MD appointment. He wrote me my prescription and I went to the pharmacy. If you buy the generic it's $25 for one round, and if you get the "name brand" it will be $50 for a round. I paid $6 to purchase enough syringes to do my injections. My doctor mixed the hcg for me, so I'm not experienced with that. I gave myself the injections - it was very simple; just a tiny insulin needle. I am more grateful to my doctor than I can ever express. This may not be for everyone, but what a positive learning experience for me! Do your own research too! Even though my doctor has a lot of experience, he made me do all of my own reading. He knew it would be more valuable if I learned the information myself!

PS - Please, if you don't like this diet, that is 110% okay and your right. I am not here to argue this diet with anyone. That would be as silly as arguing over religion. I simply wanted to answer the question posted and give some information/experience. If you would like to - out of genuine concern, and not for sake of a battle - warn someone of this diet, feel free to do so. But please, please, I implore you to not start a 'fight' with me. That is silly. I am not here to say this diet is the best for everyone and everyone should be doing it. It is an extreme diet and a choice not to be taken lightly. Each person needs to make up their own minds. I'm just wanted to throw some information out and answer a question.



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