low carb diet pros and cons please

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rebecca73

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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 12:42
Ive just had a look at this web site and it says the best diet is not calorie count but low carbs. Has anyone found any pit falls of it as im going to try this.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_best_diet_for_an_obese_man_or_woman
Rebecca
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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 13:57
Everyone is different, so you may need to try a few different things until you find something that suits you. I do well on a high carb diet, but someone else may be successful with low carb.

However, your overall calories is the most important stat to track.

"You are now watchin' the throne. Don't let me into my zone. Don't let me into my zone.
I'm definitely in my zone."
mountain_mam...

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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 15:24
The major benefits of low carb is that you will not be hungry. When you do high carb you have to counterbalance the carb effects with cutting calories and it often leaves you very hungry.

If you choose to not do low carb, let me suggest that you still eliminate all refined sugars and flours when you do it. Also, eat food as close to whole foods as possible you'll find that even at a lower calorie level you'll have a lot to fill yourself up with.

I've lost weight effectively both ways. But keeping it off, I got addicted to carbs and got out of control with them. I eat too much fruit and I'm allergic to wheat. When I eat it I crave more and more. So those are issues I will need to deal with for a lifetime. Someone else's issues will be different.

Good luck!
Audrey
rebecca73

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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 15:38
Thanks so much for your advice, im craving food on the calorie count and this sounds fab. Ive only just found out about it tho so im sure there are health issues with it im yet to discover. Im now in the process of working out what I can eat. Im not sure what Akins diet is and whether or not this is basically the same thing or not. A friend of mine said she felt really healthy on this type of diet and lost about a stone in weight. It all about learing now what is low in carbs and how long I can stay on a diet like this and stay healthy. All your advice is very much appreciated.
Rebecca
mountain_mam...

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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 16:16
Here's the website link for the program information on Atkins. It's very helpful and has lessons you can go through to be sure you're understanding what you're doing. http://www.atkins.com/Program.aspx

Also, here's the Message Board over there for asking questions and posting about any struggles you're having. It's a very helping community. http://community.atkins.com/discussions/new/viewMessageBoard.jsp?messageBoardId=1198&forumName=All&order=Recently%20Updated&page=1

Also, the 2002 version of Dr. Atkin's New Diet Revolution is your major guidebook. Mine is pretty dog-eared already! I did this diet in 1998 and did it wrong. It might not be what you think. It's about a lot of veggies, meat, protein, cheese at the outset and then adding back berries, nuts, add'l cheeses, dairy, legumes and beans, grains etc. but in controlled portions that keep your weight balanced.
Audrey
Flbutterbean

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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 16:16
For lots of information go to the Atkins website and click on program at the top. Look through some of the forums. It will answer all of your questions and concerns. You have to sign up (free) to post to the forums, but it's just like this forum. Lots of questions and answers. No obligation.
Flbutterbean

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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 16:18
Hey mountain mama, it's me flbutterbean. Fancy meetin you here. We must have been typing at the same time. I told her the same thing. LOL
mountain_mam...

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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 16:24
Hi there! I made the change yesterday from fitday and I'm still finding my way around. I like the food chart for the most part. I think it's much easier for the beginner so I'm going to recommend it. I wish there was a way to make your food log public so you can help someone out. Have you figured anything like that out?
Audrey
rebecca73

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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 17:12
Hi all ive found the atkins diet web site and joined it, its very interesting but will stick to using this site to log food intake it seems that web site doesnt really allow you to keep an exact log of what you ate. Thanks all for the advice so far xxxx
Rebecca
mountain_mam...

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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 17:18
You're welcome, Rebecca. Those of us on the MB there have been recommending fitday.com until recently until we've been making the migration here to fatsecret as it's easier and seem much better. That's why you might be noticing a bunch of us the last couple of days. Atkin's tools are not very helpful.

By the way, for great recipes for low carb, see www.genaw.com and DON'T USE THE ATKINS MENU PLANNER it's corrupted and doesn't really work.
Good luck,
Audrey
rebecca73

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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 19:18
Can I have any carbs to make up my 20 grams oer day? and why does it say you are not allowed wine? Will miss that. Not that its any good for me. Im just worried I will struggle to think of things to go with the meat dishes. Will check out the recipes link you provided for ideas now,. Thanks for that.
Rebecca
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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 19:26
alcohol is burned before any other "fuels," if you drink a glass of wine you stop burning your fat and burn the alcohol instead then you go back to burning the fat. After your two week induction, you can add it back in in moderation. I enjoy an occasional glass of wine, but have only had one or two in the 3 months I've been on program as I just don't want to interfere with my losing since it's slow enough on its own!

12-15 of your NET carbs should be from the approved veggie list. NET carbs = carbs - fiber. Fiber isn't digestible so it doesn't impact your blood sugars. So if something is 5 grams of carbohydrate and 3 grams of fiber, it's 2 net carbs. You can pick a column for net carbs in your preferences here to make it easy for you to calculate.

Veggies are really important. If you're not a big fan, some "veggies" are more like fruits. Pumpkin can be made into a dessert and count as a veggie. Rhubarb the same. Once you get to the berry rung you can make strawberry rhubarb desserts. I can easily get 5-6 ncs from "fruit" veggies.
Audrey
rebecca73

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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 19:57
is caffine totally not allowed? I love a cup of tea.
Rebecca
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Posted: 10 Aug 2009, 20:24
No, you can have it in moderation. It can spike insulin and thus impact weight loss, but most people can have a cup of coffee or tea once a day or so and have no problems. If you absolutely don't lose weight, you might need to watch it.

Tea does have carbs, so make sure you enter it. If you like milk in your tea or coffee, use heavy cream instead. YOu can have up to 3 TBS of heavy cream a day. It has less carbs. Don't use fake creamers, they aren't healthy and have sugars in them.

You need to drink 64 oz of plain water a day, not counting your coffee or tea and limit your sweeteners to 3 total a day. 8 oz of diet soda is one sweetener. 1 pack of splenda or stevia is 1 nc or one sweetener. One sugar free jello serving is one. etc. One atkins bar or shake counts as one sweetener serving.

Some people do break this rule, but it's the first place to look if you're not happy with your weight loss. Also, Nutrasweet has aspartame and aspartame is believed to interfere with weight loss on this program.
Audrey
rebecca73

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Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 05:30
Thanks so much for all your advice and help, I am excited about this working. I presume decaff tea or coffee is totally ok with the program tho. Just need to check the sweeter ive got in is not aspartame and if so get shopping xx
Rebecca
rebecca73

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Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 06:33
•Sweetener: Pure Sodium Saccharine..... is this an ok sweetner to use then? its the hemestetas one, its all very confusing. Thanks again for advice. And is one tablet counted as one serving, there is actually no carbs in this type of sweetner at all.
Rebecca
mountain_mam...

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Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 11:12
You won't count the carbs, but excess use of sweeteners can have two problems, they can keep your craving for sweets alive and they can stall some people's weight loss. So it is recommended whether or not there are carbs that you keep to just 3 a day.

Some people exceed that recommendation with no trouble, but others have issues so proceed carefully and watch your own body.
Audrey
Mrs REJ

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Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 11:22
Mountain-mam you are so right and also we must remember that the 3 per day sweetner does not just include the packs of sweetner, but also in other things Like the SF coffee syrups just for one example.

Every day I don't cheat i'm a day closer to Not wanting to.
rebecca73

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Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 12:09
so is one serving one tablet then? ? thanks x
Rebecca
mountain_mam...

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Posted: 11 Aug 2009, 12:59
I'm not certain since I haven't used it. Is that what it would take to sweeten an 8 oz drink for example? If so, then that would be what I would count as a serving.
Audrey



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