Questions to all other low-carb dieters...

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sararay

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Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 18:16
Ok, so most of us (on low-carb diets are quite convinced on the low-carb thing. No matter what exact diet you're on, the fact is that if you've done it for any amount of time you know it works and you know you feel great when you follow the plan. My question is how can doctors say that it is dangerous when most of us FEEL a lot better on the low-carb plans? I have read books, lots of books and articles for both sides of the argument and I can find cold hard evidence to refute most of the medical oppositions. Not only that but most articles that denounce low-carb diets are so unfactual that it makes me believe they never read the books that they say they are reviewing. What is going on here? I know there are medical people who support these plans, but how can this misinformation be propagated so strongly by so many other doctors?

Do you guys feel so much better on low-carb plans like I do? Do you have more energy like I do? I had lab tests improve while on low carb like cholesterol and triglicerides. I also am no longer anemic. I struggled for years with anemia, who knew that it just took removing high-carb foods from my diet to solve that problem. I struggle with the idea that I may be doing something bad for myself, but my own blood tests refute what the opposing medical representatives say. How can they be so wrong? I am sure they believe what they say. Why does dieting have to be so difficult?


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MissLissa

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Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 18:51
I too have been anemic since a very young age, taking iron pills daily since junior high. Even then I still was borderline. When I am following a low-carb lifestyle my anemia is shockingly easier to manage.

I say lifestyle because even when I am not quite "dieting", I have learned to severly minimize the quantity of carbs I eat. Why? Because I'm more alert, don't feel the desire to nap when I get home from work, and my skin even looks better. Trust me, when I backslide into a current-usa-normal-carb-amount habit, I feel it, and not just on my waistline. You're definately not the only one!

A couple months ago Maxim magazine got in trouble for reviewing an album that hadn't even been released to them. The article was based on what was "expected", but not actually on the music itself, even though the article said it was.

Apparently that sort of thing happens a lot, reporting on things you don't have the facts on, but a person has to produce! That's what I think happens, whoever is writing the article just asks a bunch of people who all repeat the same hearsay, most of it based on assumptions from others who have not read any real literature.

Makes me reluctant to tell people why I avoid bread at dinner, tired of argueing about it, even though I have made some converts!
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KellyBo

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Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 20:02
I know what you mean Sararay. I found some old lab results the other day from 2004. It was after I had been on Atkins for about a year. It was unbelievable how much better my cholesterol and triglycerides were while on that diet. I felt really good back then. I did gain all my weight back though which can happen on any diet if you aren't careful with maintenance.
healsdata

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Posted: 30 Apr 2008, 21:58
I don't know if you have read Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes, but it really goes into the history of where the low-fat dogma came from and what cruel things were done to researchers who dared to speak against it.

Just recently, a doctor in Sweden risked her career to defend the low-carb diet she was recommending. Thankfully the government eventually sided with her but she could have lost her license if it went the other way.

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"There's no doubt that the Atkins diet will lower your cholesterol, weight and blood pressure and get rid of your diabetes, but then what?" asked Dr. Robert Rosati, the cardiologist who runs The Rice Diet Program Clinic, granddaddy of Durham's diet centers.

I guess there's really no pleasing some people. Laughing (Source: http://bit.ly/ekORk0)
slease

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Posted: 01 May 2008, 10:55
I am hooked on the recipies of Dana Carpender. She is a "low carb for life" advocate and has a web site where she writes a blog. In one of her blog posts she mentions a conversation that she had with a nutritionist. The nutritionist said that any diet that restricts an entire food group is a fad diet. She apparently felt quite strongly about this statement. Dana posed the question to her "what about vegetarianism? Is that a fad?" The nutritionist was taken aback and replied that she had never looked at it that way. Vegetarianism is much more accepted than low carb is, which I think is wrong. Those of us who are low carb lifers just need to "march to our own drummer" and do what makes our bodies feel good.
Shannon_21

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Posted: 01 May 2008, 11:11
I dont know if its so much the low carb lifestyle that makes us feel better..but rather the low refined sugar lifestyle? Beans and fruit are packed with nutrients that the docs dont want us to miss out on...just speculating of course. That, and of course, eatin low fat..or good fats..is healthier than eating the bad fats. Perhaps the South Beach diet eating style is favored by many docs?
sararay

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Posted: 01 May 2008, 17:50
I have read Good Calories, Bad Calories and I think everyone should read it. Message me if you want a link to a great Gary Taubes lecture.

I don't think that low-carb means no grains or fruit. Atkins was clear on this. Just don't eat more than your body can handle. I eat low-GI fruit on occasion and I plan to add back in whole grains. I just don't understand why they are so against ketosis when they obviously don't understand it.

I even read in an article written by a doctor that the reason they tell people to go on a low fat diet is because it is too hard to tell them which fats not to eat so they just tell them not to eat any. That is so stupid because there are lots of really healthy fats that contain fat-soluble vitamins and fatty acids that we need to be healthy. Most people don't get enough vitamin A or D. This article was written before trans fats had to be put on food labels, but still, people need some fats to be healthy. Why is it so wrong if we who eat some fat eat the right ones?

I aggree with you, Shannon, any diet that eliminates high-carb and sugary foods is going to be better for us. I just think that people are looking to the medical profession to answers because there is so much misinformation out there. Why can't they just bite the bullet and teach people what is REALLY healthy. We are smart enough to learn the specifics! We are smart enough to avoid trans fats and not omega-3s. We are smart enough to make good choices in meat cuts and dairy, vegetables and fruit. Come on!

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CheeseHippy

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Posted: 11 Aug 2008, 22:18
I think a lot of folks think low-carbing is all steak and cream and butter, and they look at what's not allowed on induction and wrongfully assume that you're supposed to eat like that forever.

They don't realize that to follow the diet correctly you have to eat certain amounts of vegetables each day, and add back in other veggies and fruits and legumes and whole grains at a pace your body will accept. I eat more vegetables now than I ever did when I tried to restrict calories or eat low fat, and I'm rarely hungry (unless it's PMS, but that's a whole different story!). I'm always seeing healthy eating articles in women's magazines dismiss Atkins and other "diets that don't allow eating fruit" and the like, because it's just blatantly not factual.

Anyone who tries to tell me cutting refined sugar and white flour and empty calories from my diet is bad for me, well... whatever. Smile Coulda fooled me - I sure feel a billion times better!

acastiglione

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Posted: 13 Aug 2008, 13:49
I'm doing a modified Atkins...just because I know myself..if there are too many restrictions I won't stick with it..but also because my Mom's cholesterol went skyrocketing and she started to lose her hair when she did "Atkins"...does that make it bad? NOPE...when I started this I called her and asked why she quit...etc. She said that hers was unhealthy because she never added carbs back into her life. She was soooooo excited about all the weight she was losing that she cut carbs out almost completely...she'd be lucky to get 5 grams a day if any....and since things like bacon were allowed, she'd eat bacon at like every meal.

The low-carb lifestyle has proven to be very healthy...especially for diabetics, in fact MSNBC Nightly News did a story just a couple weeks ago about it. It's the people take it to the extreme that gives this stuff a bad name.
katie_jean12

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Posted: 13 Aug 2008, 14:11
I recently had a heated discussion with a family member who works in the medical field. I own AND have read both the Adkins and Southbeach books. I have done both diets in the past. I prefer adkins because my body seems to go into ketosis faster and I just like it more. After the first couple of days of the eating plan - I feel great, I have energy, and my skin is starting to clear up.

Once I told my sis-in-law that I planned on doing adkins - she flipped out and lectured me on how unhealthy eating steak, hamburger patties covered in mayo, and bacon at every meal was. I told her that I absolutely agreed (who wouldn't - that diet is a heart attack waiting to happen). I explaned what I ate (I don't eat mayo or red meat) and also that this was only temporary and that I would be adding whole grains and fruit in a short time. I told her to read the adkins book with an open mind....

Many people have a major misconception regarding low carb diets. If they would only stop and see the whole program in its entirety. The maintenence phase is actually one of the healthliest, most well balanced eating plan out there.

I have always been a firm believer in low carb lifestyles (though my past eating habits may refute that Smile ) and sometimes I feel it is my responsibility to try to educate others who don't understand.
Courtney26

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Posted: 13 Aug 2008, 14:43
I too have a family member that is in the medical field. She is constantly telling me how horrible a low carb life style is for the heart. What she wasn't prepared for the first time we spoke of this was the fact that I have read the Atkins book in it's entirity. The example that really struck me that I found in the book was the reference to cavemen. They were not exposed to refined sugars and carbs so saw few problems with obesity and diabetes. I also remember the point that was made that there is a direct coorelation between the induction of said foods and the obesity/ diabetes epidemic throughout the world.

Although I think it's pitiful that anyone should have to defend a diet that is working for them, I do believe that being educated on your diet of choice will fend off the naysayers.
healsdata

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Posted: 17 Aug 2008, 00:01
katie_jean12 wrote:
I told her that I absolutely agreed (who wouldn't - that diet is a heart attack waiting to happen).

Respectfully, I do disagree with you and so did Dr. Atkins, as do Drs. Eades, Gary Taubes, Dr. Jeff Volek and more low-carb experts. Red meat, mayo and bacon sounds like a perfectly acceptable diet (assuming there's no hydrogenated oils in the mayo, gross).

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"There's no doubt that the Atkins diet will lower your cholesterol, weight and blood pressure and get rid of your diabetes, but then what?" asked Dr. Robert Rosati, the cardiologist who runs The Rice Diet Program Clinic, granddaddy of Durham's diet centers.

I guess there's really no pleasing some people. Laughing (Source: http://bit.ly/ekORk0)
sararay

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Posted: 27 Aug 2008, 17:30
healsdata wrote:
katie_jean12 wrote:
I told her that I absolutely agreed (who wouldn't - that diet is a heart attack waiting to happen).

Respectfully, I do disagree with you and so did Dr. Atkins, as do Drs. Eades, Gary Taubes, Dr. Jeff Volek and more low-carb experts. Red meat, mayo and bacon sounds like a perfectly acceptable diet (assuming there's no hydrogenated oils in the mayo, gross).


I agree with healsdata, as long as the red meat is grass-fed, and no trans fats, no nitrite bacon, you're good to eat all that. Eat fat to lose fat. It is important to eat WHOLE FOODS fats, not processed. Eating just ANY red meat is not healthy, but if you know the source it is a great way to get your fat-soluble vitamins and minerals. WHERE you get it is very important.

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stormisummer

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Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 01:12
When I was in nursing school, and after I had been on Atkins, I almost dropped Nutrition. This was because I had lost 80 lbs on Atkins, knew that I felt better, had more energy, didn't want to sleep in every day, had evidence in my labs and I knew that I would have a hard time with a class that would refute everything I beleived... Luckily, I had explained all of this to the instructor, she was very supportive, told me to remain in the class and I would do fine if I had the evidence... I had the evidence in myself and did a case study on myself while in the class, I think I convinced even an old fashoned nurse.
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lorik

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Posted: 27 Sep 2008, 07:30
That's awesome Stormi!! I think before too long, a lot of people will realize that low carb is a "good thing".... Congrats on losing that much weight!!
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pointerbd

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Posted: 28 Sep 2008, 11:36
I wholeheartedly agree with you! I feel SO much better on a low-carb(versus NO-CARB) diet that I cant believe it. My weight loss has been slow probably because of lack of exercise,thyrroid problems AND alcoholic beverages once or twice a week...but the point is I AM losing (more than ever before) and I have the renewed energy,etc...that you mentioned. I plan to eat this way (with a few exceptions) forever! I dont get hunger pangs,feel full and have mor energy!:
sararay

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Posted: 28 Sep 2008, 13:12
stormisummer wrote:
When I was in nursing school, and after I had been on Atkins, I almost dropped Nutrition. This was because I had lost 80 lbs on Atkins, knew that I felt better, had more energy, didn't want to sleep in every day, had evidence in my labs and I knew that I would have a hard time with a class that would refute everything I beleived... Luckily, I had explained all of this to the instructor, she was very supportive, told me to remain in the class and I would do fine if I had the evidence... I had the evidence in myself and did a case study on myself while in the class, I think I convinced even an old fashoned nurse.


That is so awesome that the teacher worked with you. It's not like she could refute the evidence. Smile


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