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Lovealark

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Posted: 11 May 2014, 15:57
Am really following Atkins very closely. I seem to have more energy but did not loose any "inches" and very little weight.
Am I not eating enough?
Maybe I am expecting too much?
tertuf

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Posted: 11 May 2014, 17:23
In my view, clear thinking on your part. Do what works for you, and forget what works for others. Peace.
Remember: "God draws straight with crooked lines."
mummydee

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Posted: 11 May 2014, 17:36
You are not following Atkins rules, you must to have it work correctly and then go thru the phases and into life maintenance plan where you will not gain it back.

Please read the book or go online and get the 'rules' .. you are not eating enough calories for one, you are not eating enough net carbs in the form of veggies and cheeses , you must eat at least 20 net grams of carbs a day in these categories, not under, that is bad.

If you do induction properly, you will go into ketosis and start burning that fat for fuel, but chocolate and almonds are not allowed at first.

Please if you choose to do Atkins, do it right. When I look at your foods I see some good choices but not nearly enough good vegetables.

Use this calculator to get your RDI http://www.calculator.net/calorie-calculator.html

You must eat to lose weight and you must eat the right foods especially on induction. Then as you lose you slowly add in more carbs and see how they effect your body . As time goes on you'll know what you can and can't eat and will be able to maintain for life.

Also watch the processed meats that are high in sodium, they can also stall weight loss.
Merrywinkle

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Posted: 11 May 2014, 17:57
Lovealark if you are following Atkins make sure your diet calculator here is set to 'net carbs' not just carbs. Also make sure your fats are where they should be and your protein. I just looked at your food diary and I noticed today you have had candy or velveeta cheese. I super love velveeta and super love candy but you can't have it during induction at all. In a way you are eating less than 20 net carbs but if part of that is candy (even if it is one piece) and that is what messes with your Ketosis and glucose register. It doesn't take much for some people to lose that edge. Are you following the New Atkins? I use the old version Diet Revolution and it has always worked well for me. You need more veggies too. And water lots and lots of water. Make sure you get it in. I also drink quite a bit of good herb tea. I use a lot of olive oil, mayo and butter (not margarine)too, In fact I rarely used salad dressing but substituted mayo and actually liked it. Don't trust to the food to have enough good fats in it you really need to add it yourself. Breaded food is not good right now either so even if a cheese stick is okay because it's cheese the coating on it isn't. And of course I gained a little over the winter so I am starting here again on Tuesday before it gets the better of me Smile
“Everything you see I owe to spaghetti.” – Sophia Loren
I want to know what brand of spaghetti Sophia eats!
MrsRatfire

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Posted: 11 May 2014, 18:06
I know that when you are on the low carb train, you are very loyal to it- I have done it as well in the past. I can no longer do it due to a rare medical disorder that needs carbs and low fat in order for me to metabolize into energy. If I go too low carb, I go into crisis, which is deadly- I usually end up in the hospital will horrible problems. It is rare- so not relevant to this thread. Anyways, I just started logging and tracking my food, first on a different site, now here. I did not think I would ever lose a pound ever again with this medical problem. But I did. I nipped and tucked at the calories and foods until I found myself on a diet. No strain, no misery. I took 30 days to get on my diet. I love it! I am eating fantastic food and I cannot believe how much I am eating. There are MANY ways to lose weight. And Atkins has a fine reputation, and it is a diet in my younger years I used successfully. I do find just logging and tracking and coming under what I need to maintain is so much easier for me. And a lot more fun! I set my goal at 1900 a day and come in anywhere from 1200 to 1900, approx. For the month, my average is 1489.00. I like it in a swing mode- eating more somedays and less the others. I started a blog, should you care to visit it. http://mrsratfirelosesweight.blogspot.com Thanks for the post! We all should choose what works for us!
mummydee

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Posted: 11 May 2014, 18:19
Exactly MrsRatfire, and that's the key, choose what works for you.

But I've been doing this low carb way of eating for so many years, it works for me, but I'm also very frustrated at people who say that are doing Atkins but arent really following the plan and then go off and say Atkins doesn't work. it does, when done properly.

We are all different and our bodies all respond to foods differently, that's why I don't completely agree with the CICO people. I can't eat grains, they bloat and cause me to gain when eating within my RDI. So after many trial and errors along the way low carb/paleo/ketoginics/whatever you want to call it, is what works for me.
johnhoekstra

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Posted: 11 May 2014, 18:31
Lovealark - a couple of tips:
a. Make sure you get enough calories - if you don't - your body will go into starvation protection mode - which is a real vicious circle - you eat less calories and your body adjusts by lowering its metabolism - and so you never lose- make sure you get enough calories - but of course don't get too much - it's a balance

b. Make sure your ratios are right: I'll explain - in Atkins - you want to make sure most of your calories come from FAT (counterintuitive I know...) - so about 65% to 70% of calories need to come from fat (oil, butter, mayo, non fat meat etc., then about 25% from proteins and the rest from Carbs. This is a MAJOR mistake many people make.
How can you follow this? easy ... using this site at the bottom of your food page you can see the ratios.
If your ratios are not right - your body will not get enough fat caloires and start to convert proteins into glucose resulting in less fat burning and less weight loss - or even worse weight gain.

c. Watch you net carbs - (go to preferences and make sure your net carbs indicator is on). And make sure to eat between 15-20 NET carbs per day.

d. You can easily check if you are in ketosis using the Ketostixs

e. Oh - and don't eat those Atkins bars - focus on normal unprocessed food

Good luck!
cpmodem

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Posted: 11 May 2014, 18:42
Whenever we take in processed foods, starches, sugars the pancreas will excrete insulin to get it out of the blood stream. If we eat too much starch (ie: more than it takes to replenish our glycogen stores) the rest is turned to fat. Do this for long enough and it causes metabolic dysfunction. This dysfunction causes us to crave more starches (sugars) and an endless loop is created.

Reducing starches, especially the refined/processed ones are an easy way to break the vicious circle. If a strict no processed food diet is followed for a few weeks (like Atkins's Induction), we can break the cravings and get on the road to better health. Just think real whole unprocessed foods. That's the key.
Avoiding the things that raise blood insulin and leptin levels works. Really!
sarahduke

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Posted: 11 May 2014, 19:01
completely agree cpmodem!
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thinner120

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Posted: 11 May 2014, 19:04
Lovealark, make sure you are drinking enough water. look for hidden carbs that you might not realize were in your diet. Too many of the bars can be detrimental to weight loss.Some medications can slow weight loss or halt weight loss.Don't let others who son't like Atkins sway you to try something different if it is a way of eating that you feel comfortable with.
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MrsRatfire

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Posted: 12 May 2014, 11:20
I agree. Low carb worked very well for me in my younger years. If it was not for the medical issue, I would have tried it again. Live and let live to all! And to all a good night! (As Santa would say). There are thousands of diets, and when you find something that works, to me, you are on the right plan! Good luck.
Lovealark

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Posted: 12 May 2014, 13:32
Thank you all for the advice, I appreciate it. You had some really good suggestions which I will certainly check out.
secllc

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Posted: 25 May 2014, 18:47
So I'm reading this, because I haven't lost weight either on atkins, but seriously try my best with the diet. Today I've eaten till I'm stuffed and my NET carbs are still only at 12!! The column under just plain carbs is 25! How can there be that much difference!My calorie breakdown says I've eaten 7% carbs-- 65% fat-- 28% protein. Is there a way you can see the food I eat that I record on here? Also, someone posted you CAN NOT eat chocolate or nuts on induction? The atkins bars have those! Though I rarely eat one, (keep for emergency in my glovebox should I get hungry and no foods available!) I thought it was OK in small amounts. I make a snack out of 2 TB coconut oil/natural PB (no sug), 3 pks Truvia,1 TB dark cocoa pdr = mix and freeze. I break off a small chunk through the day if needed. Should I not do that? I have all the food lists downloaded and try pretty hard to do this right, I'm just still finding it hard to get enough carbs in veggie form every day. Its almost 7pm and I can't think of any carbs I'd want to eat for the rest of the night!
cpmodem

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Posted: 25 May 2014, 22:53
The general rule is to stay away from the Atkins packaged foods while on induction. I'd stay away forever, since they were my downfall while trying to lose on Atkins. Your chocolate snack would be a no no on Induction, also. The idea of induction is to clean out the cravings and PB and Truvia both have ingredients that will sabotage your clean up. Try to stay with as "clean" a foods as you possibly can. Once you purge your system and get your body adjusted to burning the "alternate fuel" fat, the weight should start dropping. Everyone is different, so you may have to tweak things a bit to get the bio-machine running as it was designed. I know that until I started weighing EVERYTHING I consumed (except water), I didn't make any headway on Atkins. Once I committed totally to the program, everything fell into place. I lost 40# in the first 3 months and transitioned into OWL, etc for the next 20#. Finally, I shifted to Paleo for the last 20# for a total of 80# since on FS (95# if you count what I lost wingin' it on my own pre-Atkins). Biggest tips that I could give about losing on Atkins is to stay away from packaged foods, cereal grains, & sugar. Also, keep your protein intake reasonable. I found ~1g protein per kg of body weight per day worked best for me. Eating more protein than your body can use will increase body fat, and at some point, increase cravings. Eat plenty of fat as long as they are the "good fats" Stay away from highly processed seed and bean oils (high in omega-6)& trans fats. Try to get pasture raised and fed animal proteins, wild caught cold water fish. Anything that raises your insulin level/needs and/or causes inflammation will sabotage you. Good luck.
Avoiding the things that raise blood insulin and leptin levels works. Really!
mummydee

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Posted: 26 May 2014, 00:50
Seclic, Its hard to say what to advise you to do,without being able to see your weight or food intake.

but you say you only have 10 lbs to lose on a 5'1" frame, but who chose that weight? If you are 150 and trying to get to 140 it is so much different than 120 needing to get to 110 .

I would concentrate on firming up and eating healthy nutritional foods instead of reducing what you eat, weight loss is a great side effect of eating healthy.
Merrywinkle

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Posted: 26 May 2014, 09:08
The thing I noticed about your food diary is the carb counts on some foods. For instance you had 1 serving of cheddar cheese that had some carbs. Not a lot but I stick to cheese that has 0 carbs. Your dressings 3.07 and 4.00 carbs per what ever serving you are using. I have come to use either olive oil and rice vinegar mixed (you have to look at the label to find the no carb rive vinegar)and olive oil is a good for you fat. You CANNOT eat any fruit during induction.Your sodium is high-ish I don't know if that is from processed foods like the Philly Steak meat or the dressings but I do try to stay away from processed stuff as much as possible. Because I try to keep sodium down but that is hard. The Atkins bars don't bother me but they do stall some people so be wary of those. It looks like your meats are often the pre packaged kind?? Like the sausage patties...I mention this because you need to be a label reader to know what you are actually getting. There is a lot of convenience food out there and most of it has added sugars etc and that will screw you up if you are trying to do Atkins Induction. Everything you buy check the carb count and the fiber grams. When I buy Deli cheeses I ask them to give me the count for carbs. So my favorite cheese went home with my daughter because I don't feel like losing 2 carbs to one piece of cheese. Smile WATER! I can not push that enough. Some days you hardly seem to eat anything at all so your body isn't going to want to give it up. I don't know if you have an Atkins book but you really need one. I use the "Old" Atkins diet because the new one isn't as successful for me. Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution ( I think 1992 was original release date). I have lost weight and felt great using Atkins. The ONLY reason I have to reuse it is because I fall into the things I should not eat. Sweets etc. But you can do this! Don't get discourages and give up. I weighed 205 a year ago and by last fall I was 135 lbs. This past winter I was so bored and discouraged and depressed with snow snow snow I didn't realize I was eating as much bad food as I was sticking in my face. So now I have 20 lbs to lose. Some of which is already gone. Very Happy You can do this!
“Everything you see I owe to spaghetti.” – Sophia Loren
I want to know what brand of spaghetti Sophia eats!
Merrywinkle

Joined: Mar 13
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Posted: 26 May 2014, 09:23
Seclic I agree with Mummy dee I think. You don't have much to lose and that tends to be a slower loss sometimes. You can still stay away from overly processed foods and sugars without making a diet regime out of it. I have a book that I find very helpful.Low Carb Dieting for Dummies (lol)it has excellent info, food lists,recipes whatever. Written by a Professor of Nutrition at a University in Texas. Maybe you can get your local library to order it for you if they don't have a copy.
“Everything you see I owe to spaghetti.” – Sophia Loren
I want to know what brand of spaghetti Sophia eats!



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