Trying to find success

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Susan Losin

Joined: Mar 14
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Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 02:40
Type 2 diabetic for almost 20 years. Using more and more insulin with little control, increasing A1C levels (8.4 most recent) and though I exercise regularly (bike 4-5 miles and swim 30-40 minutes MOST days of the week, at least 5), I am unable to lose weight and maintain stable blood sugars. I try to avoid or at least count carbs, though I am pretty addicted. Eat a lot of fresh organic vegetables and not too much meat. I never eat fast food or soda, and barely any processed foods, grow my own vegetables, make green smoothies, etc. Only gaining weight. Gained like 15 pounds since the summer, trying various diets, like Dr. Fuhrman, Dr. Hyman, Dr. Atkins, etc., and I feel like an idiot buying these stupid diet books and then only gaining weight. Lots of dried fruit and beans and nuts and hidden carbs in those diets.

Can't really stick to the low cal hungry all the time diets either. Sickened by paleo and meat-centric diets, blood sugar spikes with nearly anything these days and on at least 70 units of insulin a day. Have tried and failed at the 12 step overeaters anonymous models (various groups, though I have tried those for more than 30 years), Weight Watchers, etc. Reminds me too much of my mother controlling me when I was a child. Here's the thing: my HMO offers NOTHING in the way of support or care management for weight loss, except a medically supervised liquid fast (at over $4K for me on top of costly insurance premiums. Seems crazy and so demoralizing.

It's all I think about every day and night. Such a big waste of time and energy. I am writing here anonymously in hopes that I can find some inspiration and support, some new idea or willingness to find the strength and eat a low calorie, low carb food plan without feeling deprived or famished all the time. My goal is to lose a significant amount of weight and get off the insulin. All ideas and suggestions appreciated. Not sure how this web site works yet but I will give it a go. Thanks in advance. Losin'Susan

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Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 07:56
Susan, have you tried talking to a therapist? Not sure if your HMO will go for that, but it's really helpful. It sounds so silly to say that talking to someone can help you lose the weight and bring your sugars down, but when I first started, I found talking with a therapist changed everything for me.

I need external perspective. I needed someone to help me identify WHY I was overeating and eating the wrong things (though it sounds like you're pretty on-track as far as choices go.) Having figured out what my triggers were, I was able to journal them to under control rather than hitting the pantry.

In my experience, a weight-loss journey is 95% mental, 5% physiological. Sure, you need to eat the right amount of the right foods and exercise and maintain a caloric deficit and all that stuff to lose, but more importantly, you need to know why and how and when and where to do those things, not only so you can lose but MOST IMPORTANTLY, so you keep the weight off and not go back to your old self once you've lost the weight.

Even more helpful for me, is seeing my therapist now that I've reached (exceeded??) my goals. It sounds crazy, but having lost this much weight feels like being a totally different person, and talking it out with someone who isn't going to judge me for it has probably saved my life.

Just a thought.
"The grass ain't greener, the wine ain't sweeter, either side of the hill" The Grateful Dead
Susan Losin

Joined: Mar 14
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Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 11:41
Thanks so much for your kind support. I actually gave up therapy after 30 plus years, including almost 10 years of psychoanalysis on the couch 4 times/week. Pretty much talking about these problems. My mother is very thin, anorexic even when I was a kid. I was always fat. Lots of issues and I am aware of them all, very successful as a therapy patient generally, overall. Except on the food and weight issues, believe it or not. Plus the statistics are not on our side on this one. Thanks for the idea though.

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Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 12:49
Hello, Susan. For someone with Type II Diabetes, I would highly recommend a low carb diet. I'm sure the Insulin you take is contributing to your weight gain. If you were able to decrease and eventually stop using Insulin, it would definitely help you lose weight. The hard part will be to lower your carb intake so you don't need the Insulin. Of course, check with your MD and do not lower your Insulin dose on your own.
Susan Losin

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Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 13:47
Thanks. Yes, I am so aware of that and it is just this worst kind of punishment isn't it? the very "medicine" that is supposed to treat this illness causes the condition to worsen. I am trying desperately to get off the insulin and have been experimenting with it for years. Even though the LCHF diet helps immediately to reduce the need for insulin, I find it so hard to maintain. But yes, I am back at it especially as I see that when I first entered my start weight I guessed and was off by like 5 lbs. Today I am up even from that, higher than ever in my life. Maybe this is the kick in the (ever widening) butt I need but being honest here anonymously might be the biggest step I have taken towards success so we shall see. Thanks so much for your kind thoughts. Good luck with your own journey. Nice abs btw!

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Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 13:53
Thanks! Yes. Diabetes is a curse for many of us. It runs in my family. And even when I was very strict in eating low carb, and my weight was down, I was still getting 'borderline' readings on my glucose. So a lot of it is the choices we make when eating, but there is also a genetic/hereditary component that is beyond our control...

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Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 14:04
So true...genetics is the ultimate mean girl! I'm fighting tooth and nail to keep it bay. I pray I'll be able to reduce my weight and metabolism to keep me in check and off insulin for the next 30-40 years.

LuC2's Height: 5'2" | Starting Weight: 303 lbs
Weight (Loss-to-Date): net -15 lbs | Inches (Loss-to-Date): net -9.3 inches

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Posted: 17 Mar 2014, 14:38
Type II for 20 years myself. On insulin for 16 of those. I lost 80lbs on LCHF and have kept it off, despite adding carbs in the form of low starch veggies. I cut my insulin requirements to 1/4 of what it was at my all time high. I found that cutting out all sugar and starchy foods was what worked for me. It was hard at first due to the addictive qualities of these foods, but eventually,the cravings went away and it is no problem anymore. I found that I couldn't follow any diet plan without writing everything down. It is very easy to over eat or eat the wrong things when you don't keep a diary. At least that is my experience.

Insulin causes fat to be stored, this is true, but for a diabetic, sooner or later taking it is a fact of life. The best control (therefore the least complications) can be achieved with multiple daily injections of long lasting and quick acting insulins. You can still lose fat while taking insulin, but you must continually strive to reduce the amount you use. Of course BGs must be maintained as close to normal as possible so LCHF is really the only way for a diabetic to get good results. By HFLC I mean in the under 30g/day range.

When the excess fat is lost, insulin resistance will decrease, total daily insulin will decrease, and losing fat will become easier. It took a year of close adherence to measuring, weighing, and tracking everything I ate, but now I am in the best shape of my life and have bountiful energy. It was worth the effort, and I only wish I had known when I was younger, how bad the Standard American Diet (SAD) was and how wrong the Gov't was with its so called Food Pyramid.

May I suggest reading Dr. Bernstein's books and listening to his monthly podcast for info on what a diabetic needs to do to deal with his or her disease. He is a bit fanatical in his regimen, but his results are undeniable. I use him as a base and modify his plan to suit my situation. Everyone is different, and should experiment to discover what foods do what to their BG's and overall health. Knowledge is power.
Avoiding the things that raise blood insulin and leptin levels works. Really!

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Posted: 18 Mar 2014, 04:14
Cpmodem that is an excellent post and well written, the only thing I would reiterate is the carb addition, it's very painful but well worth going through, I did not believe that it would pass but it did. I keep my carbs lower than most and often stay at under 10 gm, I have no ill effects and my blood sugar has been under 6 for 2 years now,

So OP go for it, you will feel so much better after a few weeks.

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