Is it possible I started dieting at to low of RDI?

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AnnThom

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Posted: 08 Oct 2013, 16:43
Started almost a month ago at 1500 a day. Now after a month, I seem more hungry after a day of weight resistance than I did in the beginning. I've even added more protein to compensate, but find that 1500 isn't enough. What is the deal?
ClassicRocke...

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Posted: 08 Oct 2013, 18:33
Did you use the FS calculator to get your rdi? Going to guess it's too low for your weight.



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AnnThom

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Posted: 09 Oct 2013, 08:07
According to every FS calculator I am suppose to eat over 3000 a day. I would never lose weight if I ate that much. Plus I don't have a gallbladder, so I don't process food the same as everyone else.
ClassicRocke...

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Posted: 09 Oct 2013, 08:55
I don't have a gall bladder either and that has nothing to do with processing and digesting food. It handles the processing of fat. The only thing I noticed was that I get occasional bile reflux, which is brutal, but I can control it with diet and just watching what I eat.

http://caloriecount.about.com/

Try the above site. I got this info from Mummy and it does give you a different rdi.

Hungry. Going to tell you what they tell everyone on this site. Eat. And don't worry about your calories, but document everything as usual and see how you feel and how many calories you consumed. Don't go hungry or you'll just go totally out of control with eating.

My rdi is 1500-1600 at 178lbs. And I can't lose.

See a nutritionist. Or talk with your doctor, but a nutritionist would be more familiar with balanced eating.



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ktexp2

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Posted: 09 Oct 2013, 09:03
Bump it up to something more sustainable. Starting that low right away may set you up for failure or frustration. Best to start slow.

Or, another method that works for some folks is to vary your RDI every day, like eat 1500 one day, 2400 another, etc. I found I self-regulate, so I eat a little bit more when I'm hungry and less when I'm not. Somedays I barely eat 1200 calories! At the end of the week I usually see a net loss. There are some free calculators for this method, your mileage may vary. You may want to consult a professional familiar with gall bladder issues to get a better idea of where to start.

ClassicRocke...

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Posted: 09 Oct 2013, 10:33
Try this. Eat the way you normally would eat without dieting. Document everything. All of it. Then compare the calorie count to the 3000 you claim they want you to eat. Is there much difference?

You've lost 9lbs. in 3 weeks. That's amazing. Not a thing wrong with that.



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kkd1125

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Posted: 09 Oct 2013, 12:15
I started my weight loss journey at the beginning of the year at 270 lbs. and 1800 calories for my RDI, which was below what FS recommended for a 1 lb. per week loss (because I wanted to lose more than 1 lb. per week). I have gradually lowered it as I've lost weight and I'm now at 1600 cals and weigh 227. But at these various calorie levels I have really never been over hungry, even on strength training or weight resistance workouts days. I eat a lot of fresh and whole food, and a lot of lean protein which really helps. I also do eat more and go over on days when I am really hungry. So I would think you are eating too few calories for your body to burn fat efficiently and satisfy hunger. Try bumping it up to around 1800 and be sure to fill up with healthy food like protein and natural fiber. Good luck!
mummydee

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Posted: 09 Oct 2013, 12:17
Hello Ann Thom, can I ask, where did you get that FS gives you an RDI OF 3000? According to your food diary, when you eat 1,600 you're eating 109% so your RDI is about 1,500.. ???

and as Classic says, losing 9 lbs in 3 weeks is great. You have good food choices, more carbs than I could ever eat, but that's me. Keep at it and stay positive.
kkd1125

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Posted: 09 Oct 2013, 14:13
mummydee, You can manually enter in whatever RDI you want. I think Ann Thom is saying she got 3000 RDI prescribed by FS, but she changed it manually to 1500.
AnnThom

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Posted: 09 Oct 2013, 18:21
Exactly kkd1125. Even my trainer when I started at the gym a month ago said I was suppose to be getting something like 3200. I said he was nuts. I just made an assumption that the average person eats 2000 to maintain their weight so if I dropped it to 1500 plus my work outs, then I would loose weight. Finding a ratio with carb/fat/protein is even worse than finding a RDI that works. Mine is all over the map.
ClassicRocke...

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Posted: 09 Oct 2013, 21:37
Ann... I've been doing this for 2 years and still am unable to get a balance between the carb/fat/protein. I'm not a brain surgeon or rocket scientist. You can look at mine from day to day and see I flip flop from carbs to protein.

Some people here set up their diets days in advance and are able to create the perfect balance. Not me. I'm impulsive when it comes too cooking. So it's a daily battle.

As to the 2000 to maintain your weight. Not true. Everyone is different. Man vs woman; metabolism, hormones; health, level of activity, etc. After we hit our goals, we'll figure out what are rdi will be in order to maintain our goal weight.

Still, 3lbs/wk is beyond belief and nothing to complain about. It's excellent and you should be proud of yourself.



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Posted: 10 Oct 2013, 01:01
I would suggest that you drink plenty of water. Try drinking a glass when your hungry and wait and see if the hunger actually (stomach rumbling) comes back. De-hydration can confuse you as can lack of sleep.
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Posted: 10 Oct 2013, 02:57
Are you eating ENOUGH? I think you're not.

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AnnThom

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Posted: 10 Oct 2013, 07:56
I certainly am drinking more water these days. So much so I spend half the day in the bathroom. I squeeze lemon juice into my workout water. Not sure if this is helping or just making it easier to drink so much water.
zebdavison

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Posted: 11 Oct 2013, 14:15
On the one hand, 1500 calories seems awfully low for you. On the other, you are steadily losing weight - 2 lb a week is a nice manageable rate. As long as you are healthy, and not going crazy from cravings for food, I'd say you're doing fine.

I would question whether your calorie counting is accurate, however. Personally, I just started *really* counting my calories closely - when I initially started losing weight (pre-FS), I would underestimate portion sizes, guess at some calorie values, and wouldn't bother counting the veggies and fruits I ate because they were replacing lousy snack food. It was a net win for me, because it was an improvement. Recently, though, since I've stopped losing, I've become more accurate with the counting, and I've learned that I've been eating a *lot* more than I thought.

But for you... until you stop losing or have health issues or just can't take your diet anymore, keep going! But it wouldn't hurt to 1) make sure your 1500 number is accurate, and 2) talk to a nutritionist.
AnnThom

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Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 14:00
Great advice Zeb. Thanks.
Potatojake

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Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 17:21
Disregard most of these comments... Carb UP! Fill up on starches. Keep your fat consumption low and stay away from ANIMAL PRODUCTS. If you continue to diet this way and deny yourself the nutrients you need everyday you eventually go on a binge and will gain back PLUS MORE everything that you lost. So don't diet for the short term, diet for life! Thank you have nice day.
ClassicRocke...

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Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 18:18
And you have your degree in nutrition from??? The girl is trying to lose weight. If she ate the same amount of carbs that you do, she'd gain weight. As would all of us. When you make a statement about us "Fat People", back it up with scientific evidence.



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mummydee

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Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 18:37
Potatojake are you for real? Everyone is entitled to an opinion but please, your eating plan is not healthy nor sustainable for life. What about all the nutrients you are denying your body? Have you heard of anemia?
Vitamin B12 deficiency can also occur in vegetarians, because the best food sources of the vitamin are animal products. Strict vegans are at greatest risk. Vegetarians who eat eggs and milk products are also at risk, because, on average, they consume less than half the adult Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) of vitamin B12. And please don't try to say that you're getting what you need thru supplements.
I go for health for life and "filling up on starches" is not in any book a healthy way to live.

Maybe you've lost your way and didn't realize that your on a thread where the girl is trying to lose weight, not bulk up!
Potatojake

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Posted: 13 Oct 2013, 19:00
Yes I am for real. I am very serious about what I said. Please check out Dr. John McDougall's work if you have any questions about what I am talking about. Thank You.



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