Organic Vs. Non-Organic

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mikeyh78

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Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 19:11
Was just curious if anyone sees major benefits by going organic. I am juicing and am using organic for that because I've heard you can get sick from pesticides. But beyond produce are there major benefits from consuming only organic foods? i.e. organic peanut butter vs. regular Strictly from a weight loss\health standpoint, I am not trying to save the world. Thanks.
Tulipgirl6

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Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 19:20
organice products usually have better ingredients and less crap in them. for peanut butter i have discovered PB2 - it's powdered peanut butter you mix with water - minus all the fat - it's like light peanut butter - pretty good!
msshara

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Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 19:24
They say it can make you sick but I'll tell you what, I juice 3-4 times a week and have never used organic...Ive never gotten sick. I only buy organic when I dont have a choice (ie.they dont have the brand/type of whatever I want). There are not any differences really BUT there are plenty of people who would disagree BUT they also cant prove it. Reading an article is one thing but real life is another. Im all for what makes you happy but if its hurting your pockets dont feel guilty if your cart isnt stocked with these higher priced items
mummydee

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Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 20:28
This is what the farmers are instructed to wear while spraying pesticides... Not safe to inhale or touch the skin but safe to ingest? think again...
You have to do the best by the only body you'll ever have and if that means putting the 'cleanest' possible foods into it, then that's my choice.
You may not get sick in the short term, or nothing noticable, but what about the long term, how do we know that these sprays do not cause the cancers, tumours and birth defects that are becoming worse and worse every year.
here's a quote from the EPA " Laboratory studies show that pesticides can cause health problems, such as birth defects, nerve damage, cancer, and other effects that might occur over a long period of time. However, these effects depend on how toxic the pesticide is and how much of it is consumed. Some pesticides also pose unique health risks to children."

Ingria

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Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 20:49
Given how food is now grown, transported, stored and distributed, I do not trust any food that is advertised as organic to be much healthier than regular staff (unless you personally know a local trusted farmer who sells you the goods). By the way, don't assume that organic means pesticide free, that is not what required for certification. If it is produce, I try to buy from farmers market or from local grocery stores that mostly buy from local farmers. I try to buy what is fresh and what is in season whenever possible. Organic produce is more expensive and is often less fresh. As for the rest, I read labels and try to avoid food with a lot of added chemicals. (Same applies to the cosmetics I use, for me less is more, though I do not go overboard either). Processed food that is advertised as organic or healthy is often full of added sugar, chemicals, etc. I don't know if I would be healthier if I only ate organic all my life, but I did not have this choice. I think I did pretty good by eating lots of fresh produce, cooking, juicing, and reading the labels.
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waynem37

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Posted: 14 Jan 2014, 21:01
Organic is an investment in yourself and your family. I don't do 100% organic- organic meat is ridiculously expensive- but I try to do organic fruit as much as I can. One thing I read last year- if you aren't going to do anything else organic the one thing that you should spend the extra money on is organic tea. (Honestly, it's not much more expensive).
mummydee

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Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 05:48
We all live in different parts of the world and eating fresh and local is not always possible. In Ontario right now nothing is local! I read labels and know what countries I will and will not buy from. From the U.S. I only buy organic. The U.S. is the biggest user of pesticides and has the highest rate of GMO'd foods going. And yes, some organic does contain pesticides but in much smaller quantities and usually from overspray.
I only eat meats from naturally raised, no hormones, and ethically killed farms in my area. More expensive yes but wow, what a difference in flavour. I can understand that it might be out of a families $$ to do this, but being single, I can do it for myself. I also don't eat the quantity that some people eat.
One of the best people to read up on is Micheal Pollan, he has many good books and documentaries and good common sense approach to organic vs regular foods.
SherylPT13

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Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 06:58
mummydee wrote:
We all live in different parts of the world and eating fresh and local is not always possible. In Ontario right now nothing is local! I read labels and know what countries I will and will not buy from. From the U.S. I only buy organic. The U.S. is the biggest user of pesticides and has the highest rate of GMO'd foods going. And yes, some organic does contain pesticides but in much smaller quantities and usually from overspray.
I only eat meats from naturally raised, no hormones, and ethically killed farms in my area. More expensive yes but wow, what a difference in flavour. I can understand that it might be out of a families $$ to do this, but being single, I can do it for myself. I also don't eat the quantity that some people eat.
One of the best people to read up on is Micheal Pollan, he has many good books and documentaries and good common sense approach to organic vs regular foods.



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gnat824

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Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 08:59
If you look online, you can find lists of foods that are recommended to buy organic- I'd suggest finding one of those as a starting point. I think the general rule is that things with a thicker skin are less likely to pass the pesticides on when you eat it (like citrus, generally) and some foods are just more susceptible to pests and need to be sprayed more. I think berries and apples are often at the top of the list of things to buy organic.

Besides the pesticides, one of the most compelling arguments that sways me to organics is that they require well nurtured soil so organic food has more nutrients- you can't just rely on a few chemical compounds in fertilizers that will make plants LOOK big and healthy and beautiful even if they don't actually have the nutrients. It's weird to think that two apples or peppers or whatever may LOOK the same but have very different nutrient profiles, but that's how it works.
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mummydee

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Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 09:10
root vegetables are also a biggy to buy organic.. Root vegetables absorb herbicides, pesticides, and fungicides that wind up in soil. In the case of potatoes--the nation's most popular vegetable--they're treated with fungicides during the growing season, then sprayed with herbicides to kill off the fibrous vines before harvesting. After they're dug up, the potatoes are treated yet again to prevent them from sprouting. Try this experiment: Buy a conventional potato in a store, and try to get it to sprout. It won't, Potato growers say point-blank they would never eat the potatoes they sell. They have separate plots where they grow potatoes for themselves without all the chemicals.
Strawberries are another 'close to the earth' fruit i will only purchase organic and I do have to say the really do taste much better than 'regular'.
Washing alone will not remove the chemicals involved.

I purchased all my veggies from a farm in the Holland Marsh, a wonderul farming area in southern Ontario. They are not organic, but because all the farmers in the area work together and don't use chemicals in the soil, or do crop dusting, so you don't get overspray. They do have to use a little for certain bugs but it's very low voc so there are some that are a step down from organic but still much better than 'regular'..
wholefoodnut

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Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 09:31
More of the stores here are carrying organic produce. I garden orgainically and buy what I can locally. I wish I could afford to
only buy orgainic as I used to but it is not always feasable for me. Wish Whole Foods was closer it's abt 100 mi round trip. When I do go I have a stock up list. The other so called natural food stores near me mostly sell vitamins, make up,and various supplements and a spattering of over priced food.
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Hygienebabe

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Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 10:15
I also buy mostly organic food. I don't eat anything processed. I also cannot afford organic meats so I try to get hormone free and such as much as I can. I buy organic bulk items to save $$ like amaranth and quinoa. I know that if I eat certain fruits like grapes that are not organic even after washing I get heartburn and weird things. I noticed a sensitivity to chemicals in my system a while ago. So yes I have noticed a difference between organic and non-organic. I also react to the chemicals in processed foods which up until 4 or 5 years ago I did not. I have become intolerant of soy, wheat, and dairy. I think I became intolerant to a lot of things in food after being over exposed to many artificial things in packaged food. Feel much better eating clean, whole foods and home cooked foods.
mikeyh78

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Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 19:36
Thank you all so much for taking the time to respond.
notjune1

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Posted: 31 Jan 2014, 12:54
We grow our own, in our backyard..cant get any more "organic" than that lol...Wayne, I'm curious...why organic tea?
mummydee

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Posted: 31 Jan 2014, 13:02
Many tea farmers spray their plants upwards of 15 to 20 times each year depending on pest infestations. The spraying is often done by untrained casual daily wage workers, sometimes even by children and adolescents, who are illiterate and cannot read the warnings on the containers. Despite the dangers of exposure to toxic materials, workers frequently are not protected by recommended safety gear such as masks, gloves, rubber boots, and polythene aprons. A lot of the countries who produce tea use chemicals that have been banned in many western countries.
If you buy foods that are not organically grown you can wash a lot of the chemicals off before you eat them. With tea, though, the first time you “wash” the leaves is when you brew the tea to drink it.
notjune1

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Posted: 31 Jan 2014, 13:05
Thanks! That's handy to know!
Diablo360x

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Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 06:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3CoIqpyPYY

Just more expensive. Another fad.
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wholefoodnut

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Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 06:53
Mmmmm I started with organic and whole foods in the late 60's. I can't afford the prices anymore. The food and herbs I grow are organic and when available and the price is good I will choose organic. Most of what I now buy isn't organic since the "fad" has pushed up prices.
Food should always taste amazing. The more amazing the more it will satisfy.
Exercise is a pathway to a strong healthy more youthful body.

Jeri
mummydee

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Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 06:57
Well diablo, you're entitled to believe what you want and Brian Dunning who has no credentials in the food industry but is a skeptic and makes small films giving his opinion and depending on how far he dug, can be yeah or nay.

I do not agree at all that organic is not better for you than crops where the ground if full of fungicides, and the crops are constantly sprayed with herbicies and pesticides. And not to mention that the seeds are also GMO'D and not natural at all. With effects that could be devastating to humans.

I will not post links to MONSANTO, there are far too many and 27 countries that have banned their products cannot be all wrong.

There are also many wonderful documentaries by many people including Micheal Pollan, explaining crop growth as it applies to peoples health and well being.
I would urge all to do your own research.

mummydee

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Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 07:02
and I also agree with you wholefoodnut, about the prices. But I wouldn't call it a 'fad' . A fad is something that comes in style then goes out again. I hope that when the bulk of the population is asking for cleaner foods that more demand will create more supply and make it worthwhile for more to go farm that way. If not organic than at least demand low voc's and no gmo's.



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