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LaurenEva89

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 14:29
HELLO,

MY NAME IS LAUREN I AM 24 YEARS OLD, AND WILL BE 25 IN FEBRUARY. THIS YEAR JUST SEEMS DIFFERENT THAN MANY YEARS IN THE PAST, I AM TRULY READY FOR A CHANGE AND THIS YEAR JUST FEELS LIKE THE YEAR TO START MAKING LIFE CHANGES.

I HAVE A WONDERFUL JOB, AND HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON MY MUSIC CAREER AS WELL; WHICH ALL MEANS I HAVE TO BE AT TIP TOP HEALTH.

I WILL BE DOING THE HCG DIET SHORTLY, BUT THERE HAS BEEN SOME DELAYS ON GETTING THE SUPPLIES. I HONESTLY WAS GOING TO JUST KEEP EATING OUT AND HIGH CALORIE FOOD, ETC TILL MY BINGE DAY PRIOR TO STARTING HCG FOR 21 DAYS. HOWEVER IT IS JUST TIME, I AM READY TO GET STARTED!

SO NOW I HAVE FOUND THIS APP AND I FEEL AS THOUGH IT IS GOING TO HELP KEEP ME FOCUSED!

IT IS MY GOAL TO LOSE 25LBS BY 02/13/2014 FOR MY 25TH BIRTHDAY!

#DETERMINED #READY #LETSGO
mummydee

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 15:18
I am going to be brutally honest here, You are fooling yourself. HCG will not be sustainable for your life... you will take the 'drops' or whatever and do the 500 calories a day and lose weight, Yeah! but when you stop, you will gain it all back and maybe more..... stop fooling yourself.
You have to make a lifestyle change, you have to learn to eat properly for not only weight loss but for life.
Stop processed foods, stop everything white, white flour, white sugar, white starches, eat real natural foods that will give you the nutrition you need to sustain yourself and weight loss will be the side effect.
there is no magic pill or drop, You are young and weight loss at your age is much easier than in your older years. learn good eating habits now and you'll enjoy food for life.
corifeo

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 15:29
mummydee I eat processed foods, I eat white flours, I eat suger, am also at 9% body fat, don’t sale your ideology too people who are trying to get better there is more than one way to lose weight and keep it off.
LaurenEva89

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 15:43
Before I even finish reading your comment to my post, why don't you re-read mine! I specifically mentioned multiple times life style changes, and that I was doing HCG on top of it all! Thank you very much for your brutal honesty, but why don't you read my post thoroughly. Within my first paragraph I stated that I am making life style changes.

You are entitled to your opinion, but make sure you I am actually doing what you are accusing me of before preaching at me!

I'm not even fat! I just want to tighten up!
LaurenEva89

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 15:52
I completely agree with you Corifeo.

I am making many changes, but I will not deprive my body fully of what it craves, that is not healthy. Instead I will monitor my portions, work out more regularly and keep my stress level to a minimum.

Thank you for you in-site, I truly agree there are many ways to lose weight and keep it off and everyone's bodies are different.

There are actually 7 of us in my office, with all different goals, and all losing weight and keeping it off in different ways! Smile
mummydee

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 16:35
Wow, have you looked at this young ladies food input? You may be able to process what you eat, I think it's junk but hey, if you want to feed your body crap go ahead...
she's 24 and would benefit from a healthy eating lifestyle, going on an HCG drop/diet program will only work for a short period of time , lose the weight and then gain it all back when you stop... so go ahead, support her if you wish... i'm 58 and have many many years of learning about the systems available and nutrition etc.
I am a low carber, doesn't mean it will work for you, you are right, everyone is different but if you read the ones who have dropped weight here and have kept it off, it all boils down to the same thing, eat less, move more and eat good natural foods.
mummydee

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 16:38
and Lauren if you consider yourself not fat at 185 at 24 years old, i would beg to differ unless you are about 6' tall or more....
LaurenEva89

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 17:01
mummydee- before you go judging me and my weight I understand you have a about a quarter century of knowledge on me, but I am just getting started. And if you look at my picture I am NOT Fat! I am primarily muscle, that is all my arms and legs are. My stomach can use some tightening up as I stated before, but it does NOT hang over my pants! I have maybe a 1/2 inch if that of love handles, and those will be gone before I know it!

Again before you want to be a bitch and call me out and tell me I am doing my s##t wrong, read my post, I am making life style changes! And I ate very healthy this morning, very low calories cause that is what my diet focuses on, calories not carbs! As for my lunch I am stuck in an office, did not have time to pack a lunch so ordered Chinese, which might not be the healthiest but is better then some fattening PIZZA! I might not be 6'0" but I am tall for a female and have a flat but not tight stomach!

Just like you stated to the gentlemen - eat less move more and eat well! Well woman with so many opinions --- I literally have stated the eat less, moving more and eating well in every post, yet you still feel the need to tear people down, and put your rude input in toward my goal. Guess what?! You don't know me and you don't have to look at me or even worry about me I am my own person and have a large group of individuals that do know me supporting me and encouraging me not tearing me down because of the first day I am on some app and you have nothing better to do than break people down and what they are wanting for them self.

CHANGE TAKES TIME!!! THIS WILL NOT BE AN OVER THE NIGHT KIND OF THING!!! BUT I WILL SUCCEED, AND I WILL DO IT MY WAY!
mummydee

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 17:29
I am not judging you just replying to what you post and pics you put up.... If you want to justify your eating habits then fine, all the power to you. No I don't know you personally ,but my 40 years of counselling make me read between the lines...
I never 'tore you down' just your choice of hcg . Cap locks doesn't make what you say right,
Good luck to you in your journey , i do sincerely hope you find a way of losing and sustain it for life. not just for the short term...
LaurenEva89

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 17:30
in addition; I am supposed to take in 1500 calories a day to lose weight with excersize! And that is the least amount for my age, height and weight. Along with working out which iI do daily! I have only taken in 855 today, and eating my chinese food was healthier for me than not eating at all! I burn to many calories a day to take less calories without a suppliment, because when trying to lose weight, and working out to build muscle (which weighs more than FAT) u must intake calories and carbs to burn or your body stores fat cells to servive on which makes you gain weight or substain your present weight!
LaurenEva89

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 17:41
HCG is not my plan---it is a sub product to the bigger picture! Which I have stated the entire day...like I stated I have mentioned in multiple paragraphs through out the day. And I don't have to justify anything---i am just starting, and I have multiple professionals assisting me in my journey prior your advice of all your counceling experience! And I don't look fat in my pictures, a little bit over what I should maybe, but I don't have a fat roll, or major love handles. My legs are all muscle my arms are too...and at my smallest I have boobs and butt! I look in the mirror daily --- I know my "flaws" and my better features, and I know what I need and want to change! I didn't get on a social diet network to be critisized and judged my first day or ever! I got on to monitor my habits, and calories and make changes I feel necessary!

And caps were not to make me right! It was what my key board is typically on at work to speed my typing!

#Pharmacist #RegisteredNurse #Nutritionalist #family #friends #coworker #support #personaltrainer --- my support team!
JasminEmeral...

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 17:49
LaurenEva89- It's ok dear. It sounds like you're doing the same diet i used to drop 10kgs a couple of years ago. i was on 3000kJ, which is like 600kcal? It took about 6 months, but when i stopped dieting the weight DID STAY OFF.
I took cues from my sister who was on a structured eating/exercise program at her gym. So don't worry about it being unhealthy.
Mummydee has a very structured regime to lose weight. And while it may seem that she's going off at you, it's just coz she doesn't want to see people crash diet then go through the pain afterwards.

From just skimming over the hCG Protocol, it looks like its a kick-start diet. For like 7 weeks or something? If you keep aspects of it after that time, you wont put it back on.

It sounds like you're doing fine. I prefer watching kilojoules to macro-nutrients.
And besides, we're young, we need carbs. I FREEKING LOVE CARBS! especially if you're active.

Stick with it. I can tell you're gonna succeed!
liafh

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 18:11
Hi Lauren, Welcome to the forum.

First off let me just say that a lot of the older members on the forum have been struggling with weight loss for a long time. We've tried diets, drugs, acupuncture, voodoo and anything else you can think of to try and shed pounds. We are constantly working on our lifestyles to find the best most manageable way to stay thin and healthy without making our quality of life crappy.

I know sometimes people can come across a little strong with their opinions, to be honest, I cringed a little when I read about your diet plans. I have a daughter close to your age and if she told me she was doing the HGC diet, I would be quite upset. I truly believe Mummydee had nothing but the best intentions with her post and had an honest concern about your diet plans especially since you're still a young woman and what effects those HGC shots/drops/whatever will have long-term on a person are still unknown.

That said, only you know whats best for you and Corifeo is right, there are several ways to lose weight and you need to find what's best for you. If you've done your research and feel this is the best way for you to lose the pounds, then I'm cheering for you.

Make sure to let us know how it's working!

Good luck!!Very Happy
corifeo

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 18:12
Low carb diet…
Don’t tell me you think that all the Asian countries that are on a high carb diets are fat and have bad health. Because that’s not the case is it;
But let’s start with your clams
White sugar I suppose you’re talking about glucose
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/brainwaves/2013/07/15/is-sugar-really-toxic-sifting-through-the-evidence/
http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/9/1/89
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21889564
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1741-7007/10/42
http://archive.samj.org.za/1971%20VOL%20XLV%20Jan-Jun/Articles/03%20March/1.3%20SOME%20BIOCHEMICAL%20EFFECTS%20OF%20A%20MAINLY%20FRUIT%20DIET%20IN%20MAN,%20B.J.Meyer,%20.E.J.F.%20de%20Bruin,%20D.G.%20du%20.pdf

Like always moderation is the solution is that really so hard.

White flour... know don’t get me wrong some white flour is not good for you.

http://butterbeliever.com/is-white-flour-really-that-bad/
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010_11_01_archive.html

Know don’t get me wrong am not telling anyone to do anything, if you want to do a low-card diet do it, but don’t try to make it same like your is the right way.


mummydee

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 18:41
I don't and have never said that what works for me will work for anyone else.. where in this post did i say that? I was responding to the posters HCG post.... it is a 'magic pill ' solution that has never worked in the long term for anyone..the HCG plan requires the person to consume 500 cals a day along with the drops... this is ridiculous for the long term and that is what I was addressing...
as her posts go on she has now exposed more information about her diet plan... didn't know that with her first original post and i'm sorry that my powers of reading her mind were interrupted...
Sugar is a toxin, as many sites will prove but i don't have the time nor energy to post... google it yourself.. the American obesity problem all coincides with the low fat high sugar diets and processed foods.
Cancers, tumours, diabetes and many other health problems all coincide with the processed food industry. Now we also have GMO'd foods to contend with...
I eliminated white sugars, white flours and white starches more than 20 years ago and have basically eliminated all health problems that went along with it. Many other long term posters also have found that a healthy lifestyle has the side effect of weight loss. and good health.

I sincerely hope everyone finds a plan that works for them and works for the long term not just a 'fix'...
mummydee

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 18:43
and as a side note, as soon as the American diet was introduced to the Asian countries, they too now have a problem with weight and diet problems.. So the processed food industry has infiltrated a healthy nation and poisoned it too.
corifeo

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 19:43
When debating any issue, there is an implicit burden of proof on the person asserting a claim but don’t worry, you never know who end up reading this and learning something.

Science is not based on what people say on some website… And there is very little sciences where you are coming from.

Japanese people enjoy the No. 1 lowest obesity rate in the developed world -- 3% still today.
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/diets-of-world-japanese-diet

And American fast-food has been in japan sense 1973 there doing very well by the way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KFC#Japan

According to Moriyama, the average Japanese person eats about 25% fewer calories per day than the average American, which could partly explain their lengthy lifespan. Eating just 8% fewer calories per day, while moderately increasing your activity level, may be enough to promote longer life, research from the University of Florida College of Medicine suggests.

The problem with the US is not carbs or any other thing all the fad diets want to sell you, the problem is not the food itself, but how much we eat.

ERS data suggest that average daily calorie intake increased by 24.5 percent, or about 530 calories, between 1970 and 2000.

http://www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf “While simultaneously becoming less and less physically active” am quoting Ferris Jabr

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5304a3.htm

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/82-003-x/2009004/article/10933-eng.htm
liafh

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 20:28
Not trying to jump into the middle of anything here and as far as I am aware there is no definitive study ever done as to the "why" on the issue you raised above.

However, There are some very good observations about this particular subject done by Dr. Peter Attia, give it a read it's quite interesting.

http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/how-do-some-cultures-stay-lean-while-still-consuming-high-amounts-of-carbohydrates
corifeo

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 21:35
I have already read it before the answers are in the links I give.

Am just going to give you a small sample for the answer the rest you can read it if you want too.
Reason 1
why-sugar-is-bad-for-you data, it’s worth reading this post, and watching the lecture by Dr. Lustig.

Similarly, Lustig has claimed that the Japanese diet promotes weight loss because it is fructose-free, but the Japanese consume plenty of sugar—about 83 grams a day on average—including fructose in fruit, sweetened beverages and the country’s many meticulously crafted confectioneries. High-fructose corn syrup was developed and patented in part by Japanese researcher Yoshiyuki Takasaki in the 1960s and ’70s.

Reason #2 — Total glycemic load
In a series of meta-analyses examining dozens of human studies, John Sievenpiper of St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto and his colleagues found no harmful effects of typical fructose consumption on body weight, blood pressure or uric acid production. In a 2011 study, Sam Sun—a nutrition scientist at Archer Daniels Midland, a major food processing corporation—and his colleagues analyzed data about sugar consumption collected from more than 25,000 Americans between 1999 and 2006. Their analysis confirmed that people almost never eat fructose by itself and that for more than 97 percent of people fructose contributes less daily energy than other sugars. They did not find any positive associations between fructose consumption and levels of trigylcerides, cholesterol or uric acid, nor any significant link to waist circumference or body mass index (BMI). And in a recent BMC Biology Q&A, renowned sugar expert Luc Tappy of the University of Lausanne writes: “Given the substantial consumption of fructose in our diet, mainly from sweetened beverages, sweet snacks, and cereal products with added sugar, and the fact that fructose is an entirely dispensable nutrient, it appears sound to limit consumption of sugar as part of any weight loss program and in individuals at high risk of developing metabolic diseases. There is no evidence, however, that fructose is the sole, or even the main factor in the development of these diseases, nor that it is deleterious to everybody.”

Reason #3 — Inflammation
I really have no idea where he got this from.
Most of what Peter Attia, M.D is saying is out of date or misinformation to be honest but if you find some scientific study that says other ways I would be glad to read it.

Ingria

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Posted: 06 Jan 2014, 23:02
Wow, we managed to combine two of our favorite topics - HCG and Dr Lustig in one thread. If the young lady who started the conversation has a healthy metabolism and no issues with processing extra carbs, eats well and only needs to tighten up certain areas, she does not need HCG to do that. 500 calorie a day diet did not help anybody tighten up anything yet. HCG depending on a source is either a hormone that you don't want to use or a placebo for which you don't want to pay. That I believe was the message Mummydee was trying to send. So Lauren, good luck with your weight loss and have a happy journey. And let us fight a carb battle on another thread and not distract Lauren from her goals.
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