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brised

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Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 09:15
In light of the new study about multi-vitamins giving you no benefit what-so-ever, who didn't take theirs today?

I, for one, still took my One A Day - Mens Formula. I've always questioned its worth - or any multi-vitamins worth as far as breaking down and absorption.

Is there a better way for more effectiveness? Grind it up in a smoothie?

I took it today, but I may question buying my next bottle. My diet is better than before so I'm bound to be missing less. I'm doing more exercise along with the better diet, so do I need it more than ever.

Funny stuff.
bigbassbrent

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Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 10:32
Good post! I still took mine but I will be doing more research when I get time. I don’t see the harm in taking them as long as they are not actually bad for you. I remember this same news came out several years ago but it didn’t stop me from taking them. Do you know if they are just talking about multi-vitamins or does this include supplements such as C0 Q10 and other antioxidants?

- I don't diet. I eat to achieve my goals.
reddarin

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Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 10:33
Here is a link to the news if anyone is interested:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/multivitamin-researchers-say-case-is-closed-supplements-dont-boost-health/

Bah. Bad science abounds. They based their stupid proclamation on three studies - none of which were ward studies. One of the three was comprised of subjects that already had CVD and some number of those people stopped taking their vitamins early. Another one of the studies involved cognitive ability but didn't actually test for dementia. The other study was an analysis of 24 other studies and making emphatic assertions based on correlation is an egregious abuse of 'science' that is oh so common these days.
Oneauta

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Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 11:51
You missed the content of the article. The first study was a review of 24 studies.

Since the studies are "controlled observations" and peer reviewed for the methodology used they carry greater weight than "bah, bad science." A ward study of 350,000 subjects would not only be virtually impossible it would be too expensive to conduct.
liafh

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Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 12:05
What the heck is a "Controlled Observation" study?
Glaun

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Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 12:07
Good post. Good info, Thx. My take? Vitamins - they are small, cheap, don't add calories-why not? Smile

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reddarin

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Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 13:07
Oneauta wrote:
You missed the content of the article. The first study was a review of 24 studies.

Since the studies are "controlled observations" and peer reviewed for the methodology used they carry greater weight than "bah, bad science." A ward study of 350,000 subjects would not only be virtually impossible it would be too expensive to conduct.


???

We can stop the bus at the corner of Correlation and Causality. Bad science. Bah.

Please spare me the uncritical thinking so often invoked when "peer reviewed" is slapped on a study. I understand perfectly that a peer reviewed study is likely to be of a better quality than one that hasn't gone through that process. Clearly you feel that if a study has that label it can't be flawed or in error. Which of us has a better grasp of the situation?
liafh

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Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 15:26
Marlene1952 wrote:
I for 1 wouldn't dream of NOT taking my daily or for me my nightly vitamin's and don't forget your baby aspirin - take 2- 81 mg AT NIGHT!!
I take my vitamin's at nigh because if I take them in the Morning, I'll be eating ALL DAY - for some reason, they rev up my appetite big time!!! Smile


I read a study of the time dependent effects of aspirin on blood pressure, you may find it of interest. It was rather small and has a few problems but none the less produced some unique results, so take it with a grain of salt. Very Happy

http://www.docguide.com/administration-time-dependent-effects-aspirin-blood-pressure-untreated-hypertensive-patients
JasminEmeral...

Joined: Nov 11
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Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 18:17
I like this article, showed up in my facebook feed this morning from an anti-pseudoscience page.
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2013/11/vitamins-herbal-dietarysupplementsregulatefda.html

You only need to supplement your diet if you have a lack of said vitamin or mineral in that diet. I take a pharmacy-grade iron tablet once a week to keep my anemia in-check. I used to take vit D when i was studying since i didn't see sunlight for months at a time.
In general- if you get a basic blood test to check your majors and it's all good, then your diet is sufficiently providing all your needs.

There is only 1 reason to take aspirin on a regular basis: if you have a chronic disorder (with either your blood or your heart, or possibly other organs). For example, my mother has a genetic prothrombosis disorder which increases her clotting and could lead to (it did for her mother) a stroke. Another example is my uncle with the half-dead heart muscle (used to only need aspirin, now uses warferin).
mummydee

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Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 21:55
I don't take a multi, only fish oils and Co Q, I eat all natural and lots of colourful veggies.. Luv this show was on in toronto this a.m....http://www.bttoronto.ca/videos/2942896922001/
activeash

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Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 12:38
I've actually been told this many years ago, and 100% felt that there is no reason to take a multivitamin. I can absolutely see how each vitamin can contain a different amount, which is why I haven't taken a multivitamin for a about 5 years now. I take vitamin c, calcium, and vitamin b. I should take some others, but for me, I feel like I need those most.
wholefoodnut

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Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 12:53
I take my multi vitamin , fish oil, (my dogs have to have their nightly fish oil as well), calcium and magnesium, and my D's especailly in the winter cause many days I only see the sun is out the window. My body likes them. I can tell a difference if I run out of any of them or miss one for a few days. No matter what I'll keep taking them .

Enjoy the summer and the sunshine.

Jeri
mrspackrat

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Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 16:33
I hate the media and the way they cover these stories. Americans overall eat like crap--convience foods, boxed or frozen foods, faux foods and tons of snacks. This is why everyone is fat--they are over fed and under nourished. They think all they need to do is work out more when what they really need is to clean out their pantry and fridge.

People should supplement becasue of their poor diets. For the few that eat healthy, whole foods they don't need to supplement. When I saw the segment on TV it annoyed me that they said don't take them because you don't need them but they failed to really emphasize that then you need to eat better. For many that's never going to happen.
Draglist

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Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 17:43
I do a multi, I do two fish oils in the morning and two in the afternoon (my chiropractic told me they were essential, as in, we don't make them ourselves?), I take a cinnamon capsule, a Vitamin D gummy, and an 81 mg aspirin. Used to do a pro-biotic gummy when I was trying to figure out some regularity issues. But increased good fat intake by 5 percent through nuts and chia seeds and that took care of that. So, recommendations? bp



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