Why Am I Still Hungry?

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ashjes

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Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 19:05
@cakebaker

These are great suggestions. Some questions if you don't mind. How much sugar do you think that I should intact? I'm not sure if I trust the ADA on their recommendations. Can I eat watermelon or grapes?

Thanks
mummydee

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Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 19:15
no I don't eat bars of any kind, i make my own, and I don't eat any processed foods at all. 0, zip, nadda... I only eat real foods, organic veggies, grass fed or naturally raised meats and almost 0 grains. I also watch now for foods, even veggies etc, that are GMO'D ..

there's too many chemicals and preservatives and crap in processed foods that your body doesn't need.

My snacks are usually a protein and a carb, such as an apple and cheese, celery and almond butter, slice of turkey with swiss cheese rolled up, and my meals are basically the same, salad with tuna, chicken with broccoli, and yes even 2 strips of bacon with an egg i add in a tomato.

You can survive without processed foods and learn to enjoy the real sweetness of fruit or alternatives.

if you are interested in making some healthier alternatives to snack bars ,let me know and i'll post one easy recipe I have ,no cooking, no baking. or msg me.
d.
alicat0665

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Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 19:16
Sometimes we 'feel hungry' when we are actually just 'thirsty'. Thirst can trigger that feeling as well. So, my advice to you is...when you 'feel' that way, drink a bottle of water...wait, and see how you feel. Hope that helps.
mummydee

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Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 19:19
and can I ask you ashjes why you are always eating less than 50% of your RDI? are you not inputting all your foods? You need to eat more, good healthy foods and you'll be surprised , your body needs fuel to burn to turn on and lose weight.
ashjes

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Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 19:25
@muumydee

I thought that it was a myth that if I ate 100% RDI that I would not lose weight. I'm really lost and open to suggestions while trying to keep my calories around 1200.

Thanks
ashjes

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Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 19:30
@mummydee

Save any sort of dairy product to which I am allergic I am open to ideas. I have been shocked in the past few weeks how much sodium a lot of non-processed foods have. Fresh shrimp was the big surprise today. Ditto for fresh ground chicken and many fresh meats. In addition I am finding them harder and harder to digest. I am willing to experiment. Thanks
mummydee

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Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 19:40
I am 100 lbs less than you and that's the calories I eat to maintain. When you don't eat enough your body goes into holding on to whatever just to maintain...
It's hard to get your head around sometimes but you really do need to eat more to lose weight, but it must be good natural healthy food and your body/metabolism will turn on to burn that food and you will then burn those calories. If you don't give your body simple carbs (white sugars flours and basically empty crap) it will use fat as fuel instead .
FS RDI i believe is a little high, I go on https://caloriecount.about.com/register and found it much more realistic.

the RDI is what you need to maintain so you should go a few hundred cals less than that to lose.

I am no professional but have been reading/learning/studying nutrition or many years and luckily have finally found just what works for me. Not to say what I do is right for you. But I firmly believe eating healthy wholesome foods is the way to go and weight loss will follow.
smhlost100

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Posted: 24 Oct 2013, 20:22
ashjes, you need to get a book, Living the Low Carb Life, by Johnny Bowden. It's available on eBay for under $10, and worth every penny for those of us who are weight challenged. You'll learn a lot of things in that book, about the mythical ideas behind the ADA's guidelines, how your body reacts to the various things you might feed it, and what really works. It's written in common terms, so that I understand it, and it's actually very enjoyable reading as well. I learned so much from it. I only discovered FS about 2 weeks ago, but I've been your size and more. It's not easy, and it's not quick, but like others have said, you must eat enough to prevent your body from turning muscle into fat. Low carb is a relative term; you have to find what's right for you. I have a different set of issues to work with than you. I have a metablism that absolutely refuses to drop any weight on more than about 60 carbs a day. My nutritionist is currently encouraging 40. To accomplish that, I have to live on meat and vegetables. It's not easy, and when I actually have a 4x count, I really congratulate myself! But from what I've just looked at on your profile, you're definitely not eating enough for your current weight. The suggestions about snacking on lean meats and fish are excellent. If you cook meat yourself without adding a lot of salt with the seasoning, the sodium that occurs in it naturally really shouldn't be a major issue. There are some really nice pepper-based seasonings available. Do you do okay with nuts? They make a super snack, and you can get lower salt varieties as well as salt-free. I have found that pitted fruits such as peaches and cherries, as well as most berries, are the most carb-friendly varieties. Grapes are good as well; just remember that each grape is 1 carb and measure your intake to suit.

Hope this helps! Smile
cakebaker

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Posted: 25 Oct 2013, 02:13
Most organizations don't have a specific number to shoot for when it comes to sugar. I try to eat as little as possible and only from fruit, peanut butter ( I'm an addict), yogurt those kind of foods. Five grams = one teaspoon not one tablespoon that I wrote earlier. I think I got it right this time.

Grapes and watermelon are both high sugar foods so you can eat them but in moderation, one serving instead of four. A better choice would be a lower carb fruit such as berries or cantaloupe. The main thing is you want this to be doable because this isn't a temporary lifestyle but permanent. That is something you and your nutritionist can work on. Maybe you can get a list of low glycemic foods on your next visit. I use a book that has been very helpful called The Complete Book Of Food Counts by Corinne T. Netzer. It lists nutritional information for real and processed foods including fast food.

This is what I found for sugar recommendations. Seems like a lot to me so I don't know how much faith I would put in these recommendations. I hope that it helps.

The American Heart Association (AHA) recommends: 37 grams for men (150 cal, 7.4tsp) and 25 grams for women (100 cal, 5tsp).

The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) recommends: 32 grams (128cal, 6.4tsp) for a 2000 calorie diet.

The American Diabetes Association (ADA) doesn’t provide specific guidelines but claims that it can be substituted for other carbohydrate sources, in moderation.

The World Health Organization recommends sugar intake no more than 10% of total daily calorie intake.

Common names for sugar in processed food: brown sugar, corn syrup, dextrin, dextrose, fructose, fruit juice concentrate, high-fructose corn syrup, galactose, glucose, honey, hydrogenated starch, invert sugar maltose, lactose, mannitol, maple syrup, molasses, polyols, raw sugar, sorghum, sucrose, sorbitol, turbinado sugar, and xylitol. 
LissaCoffey

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Posted: 25 Oct 2013, 07:03
Combining the fruit with a protein source keeps you fuller longer and helps to moderate blood sugar.
Nicky111

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Posted: 25 Oct 2013, 08:37
Hi Ashjes

Rather buy a good quality protein powder that is low in carbs and mix it with cream and/or water. You can add mashed up strawberries or coco(no sugar) for some extra taste.

I find that if I have 1 x hand full of nuts (no peanuts) or 1/2 an avocado with my salad it helps to keep me fuller for longer.

I find that the more meat and healthy fats I eat the better I manage with cravings. Eggs, ham, Protein shakes, chicken(with the skin on), avocados, macadamia/peacan/almond nuts, cheese...

If I still struggle I fast for 1 day a week for a couple of weeks. I have dinner then do not eat until dinner the next night again. Only take water and tea during the fasting day and if you feel you really have to have something to eat have an apple or 5 strawberries. It does amazing things for the mind - You won't believe that it's actually possible to go 24 hours without food and how well you will cope.

Good luck!
Nicky
Nicky
Sunshine6442

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Posted: 25 Oct 2013, 08:38
BLOOD SUGAR IMBALANCE CAUSES HUNGER

Fat is far more satiating than carbs, so if you have cut down on carbs and feel ravenous, this is a sign that you haven't replaced them with sufficient amounts of healthy fat.....a couple of avocado slices, a tbsp. of Olive Oil for cooking, fatty fish, black olives...they are healthy fats...you can even stuff them with Laughing Cow reduced Fat cream cheese for a snack.

Eat nothing white and no wheat bread either as they both give you a sugar surge. Eat Rye bread only or pumpernickel as both digest slowly and wont spike your body's insulin.

Eating carbs limits your capacity of using fat. When you are on a diet, you increase your blood glucose, which in turn, stimulates the release of insulin. Even low concentration of insulin inhibits the process of breaking up fat by activating fat synthesis. In other words, when you resort to a low-fat diet which is based on carbohydrates, your body is forced into the fat-building mode and not the fat-burning mode.
mrspackrat

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Posted: 25 Oct 2013, 09:53
Sugar is hidden is so many foods these days and most packaged foods are loaded with sugar, particuarlly the low-fat ones. Once you get blood sugar under control, you'll feel so much better and you won't be so hungry. Replace sugary carbs with fat--the good kind like nuts, seeds, olive oil, coconut oil, eggs, etc. The Omega 6's adds to body inflammation. But hormones are made out of cholesterol. If you don’t eat enough cholesterol, your body can’t make the hormones that regulate body fat.
this damn tracker below hasn't been right in months! My current weight is 137!
ashjes

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Posted: 26 Oct 2013, 11:01
@mrspackrat

Thank you for the suggestions. I think that my glucose is becoming under control. My a1c had been 10.7 in June. Yesterday it was 6.0. My doctor was stunned. He didn't switch me off the meds nor do I feel confident enough to do so. I'm now having eggs twice per week. I don't digest nuts anymore. But I will look into seeds and at least given them a go. I'm grateful for the help.
jadenmiller

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Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 01:46
ashjes wrote:
Hello Jaden,

What foods would you suggest outside of dairy related? Eating a large salad does not seem to help nor does soup.

Thanks

You can take fat-free, low-fat, and regular milk, cheese, and yogurt.Also you can try skimmed or semi-skimmed milk.
Switching to low-fat dairy products will not reduce calcium. In fact low fat milk actually contains slightly more calcium than full fat milk
ashjes

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Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 10:21
Thanks Jaden.
Hossjob

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Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 10:37
ashjes wrote:
I am now finding that there are times when I am hungrier after I eat than before I did. I am slowly trying to move over to fresh fruits and proteins now that I am beginning to be able to exercise some portion control. But there is still that hunger.

Does anyone know why?

Thanks


Lot's of reasons. When I eat fruit it makes me hungrier. Most fruits are high in fructose which doesn't do a good job in satiation or refilling glycogen. Don't get me wrong, it's important to eat fruit, but what kinds are you eating? Try fruits lower in sugar and higher in fiber and water weight. Also, are you finding you get hungry after meals with carbohydrates? If so, switch over to slower burning carbs and add a bit of fat. Are you eating small meals quite frequently? Some people thrive on this, others find that it makes them "hungrier". Yes it can stabalize insulin, but it can also because insulin rises each time you eat the constant rising can lead to making you feel hungry more often. If that's the case, eat the same amount of calories in larger meals (4 times per day or even 5).

Is it emotional? Try to keep a journal on how you are feeling before you eat, right after you eat, and when you feel like you are getting hungry again. Just write down how you feel, what happened to make you feel that way, what food(s) you are craving, etc...
ashjes

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Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 11:18
I'm guessing that the cantaloupe, watermelon and grapes aren't the best for me? Yet they satisfy to some degree. I know that eating consistent amounts and consistent times would help but I still can't seem to get into a schedule. I think that I am doing pretty well with the carbs. The "salt monster" kicks in after dark and it is then that I crave something crunchy and salty. So far I am managing it but I don't like having that need. Unfortunately I cannot seem to digest nuts or anything dairy related. But beyond that, I am open for help. Thanks
smhlost100

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Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 14:03
Keep a bit of cooked meat in your fridge and eat an ounce of that when it's not meal time and you feel hungry. I find this does wonders for me without the effect of the carbs.
ashjes

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Posted: 30 Oct 2013, 16:05
Do you think 3 or 4 ounces would be okay?



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