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Potatojake

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 16:33
If you are implying MEAT eaters don't have B 12 Deficiencies then look again.
mummydee

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 16:40
I'm not implying, I'm asking.... where do you get your B12?
If it is a plant, eat it, if it comes from a plant, don't!
Potatojake

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 16:43
mummydee wrote:
I'm not implying, I'm asking.... where do you get your B12?


I take it in pill form.
mummydee

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 16:49
simple question potatojake.... why are you here?
You say you need to gain weight and say that you are gaining 14 lbs a week, yet since you started to record you went down 3 lbs then slowly went up?

Why are you trying to convince people that need to lose weight that your way is the right way or the healthy way...

lets not forget that the veggies and fruit that were grown in the time of the Incas' that you are so happy to post , were totally different than the plants we consume today.

If it is a plant, eat it, if it comes from a plant, don't!
Potatojake

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 17:09
My normal weight is about 170 lbs. I did a 16 day water fast and I lost muscle and fat. However I used to weigh as much as 190 when I was lifting weights full time. I am using this site as a tool that I use to help me determine how many calories I am taking in and how much fat I am taking in. I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. I am merely pointing out that the great civilizations of our time all lived off of starch as the main food. Aztecs: Corn Incas: Potatoes Egyptians: Grain Asians: Rice What else would you like to know?
mummydee

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 17:11
Very low B12 intakes can cause anaemia and nervous system damage.

The only reliable vegan sources of B12 are foods fortified with B12 (including some plant milks, some soy products and some breakfast cereals) and B12 supplements. Vitamin B12, whether in supplements, fortified foods, or animal products, comes from micro-organisms.

Most vegans consume enough B12 to avoid anaemia and nervous system damage, but many do not get enough to minimize potential risk of heart disease or pregnancy complications.

To get the full benefit of a vegan diet, vegans should do one of the following:

eat fortified foods two or three times a day to get at least three micrograms (μg or mcg) of B12 a day or
take one B12 supplement daily providing at least 10 micrograms or
take a weekly B12 supplement providing at least 2000 micrograms.
If relying on fortified foods check the labels carefully to make sure you are getting enough B12. For example, if a fortified plant milk contains 1 microgram of B12 per serving then consuming three servings a day will provide adequate vitamin B12. Others may find the use of B12 supplements more convenient and economical.

The less frequently you obtain B12 the more B12 you need to take, as B12 is best absorbed in small amounts. The recommendations above take full account of this. There is no harm in exceeding the recommended amounts or combining more than one option.

personally, i prefer to eat natural B12 in moderation but enough to be healthy and sustain.
If it is a plant, eat it, if it comes from a plant, don't!
mummydee

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 17:20
And MONSANTO did not exist in the time of the Inca's or that Aztecs, so try again to convince me to eat GMO'D corn, soy, wheat, rice etc....

If it is a plant, eat it, if it comes from a plant, don't!
Potatojake

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 17:23
There is plenty of produce that is not GMO. Whole Foods store will actually tell you if it is a GMO. Just do your research and be smart about what you purchase. Or you could go above and beyond and grow your own!
mummydee

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 17:30
And just because a store is called "Whole Foods" and says it is safe and organic, is it? http://www.naturalnews.com/042144_Organic_Spies_Whole_Foods_Market_GMO_whistleblower.html
If it is a plant, eat it, if it comes from a plant, don't!
Potatojake

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 17:39
Ok, Ill let you know If I get cancer from eating potatoes, rice, corn , and beans. Smile
mummydee

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 17:45
I sincerely hope you don't... good luck on your weight gain and hopefully you have a long and healthy life.

Just keep an open mind, keep reading, keep researching and keep learning.
If it is a plant, eat it, if it comes from a plant, don't!
ClassicRocke...

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Posted: 14 Oct 2013, 18:33
http://www.bodybuilding.com/guides/

Because I care about your welfare and health. These are the people you need to assist you in your goals. No need to come here and insult us trying to make a point.

As Mummy said, I hope you can keep an open mind, check out this site. Their forums are top notch for people like you who want to gain and if it's something you want to do at this time, bulk up.

Wishing you the best of luck in your goals. l

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