10 Things You Need to Know About Losing Weight

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mrspackrat

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 07:09
onedaat wrote:
At least I actually present studies rather than documentaries


I wasn't aware that there was a requirement to post supporting documentation of common sense weightloss tips Smile
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mummydee

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 07:17
Keep posting them Mrs P. I quite enjoy what you and others have posted, I watch and take away what I want from them.

Many documentaries have had opposing theories, such as Supersize Me and Fathead.
and many scientific theories have been put out there such as Keys study on sugar and Yudkin's study , two opposite views.

For every study that says 'this' another one will come out that says 'that'
So I read , I listen and I watch and then make my own choices.

Nadyno

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 07:21
I think you can find studies supporting anything you want out there.

We're all different and I don't think there is anything that works for everyone.

I enjoyed watching this. It was an interesting theory. Thanks for sharing
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onedaat

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 07:25
The Earth was flat was common sense for a while there. Before Galileo came along it was common sense that larger objects fell to the Earth faster. Point: Something being common sense has nothing to do with it's truth value in the real world. Posting support for your point of view allows for debate and consensus building. Just labeling something common sense is a great way to shut down debate. By assuming your position is "common sense" all you're doing is insulting the people who disagree with you.

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jsfantome

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 08:07
mrspackrat wrote:


"1. Don't skip meals- I skip meals almost every day.

2. Change your Plate size from 12" to 10"- Never did this.

3. Count your calories- Didn't work for me.

4. Don't blame your metabolism- Well, I'm not going to blame my husband's! LOL! Of course my 'metabolism' (good, bad or indifferent) - has something to do w/ it!

5. Eat protein- Ok, now we're getting somewhere! Lean? No, not so much!

6. Soup keeps you fuller longer - Not me!

7. The wider the choice the more you eat- What!? I disagree. Has never been my experience.

8. Low-fat dairy helps you excrete more fat - Wouldn't eat low-fat anything - if you paid me. Wonder if this works w/ full fat dairy?

9. Exercise goes on burning fat even while you sleep-our bodys use carbs - I think I need a nap!

10. Keep moving and you lose weight- You've just got to joking!


I am just one person. With one experience. Take it for what that's worth!!! I personally, do not care about documentaries - studies - scientific research protocols, etc...

You know what I did care about when I started this journey?? Losing weight! And what bugs me about this kind of thread - is

1.) It's misleading to the 'newbie' - implying if they follow these common sense, scientific, or whatever - tips!!! - they'll be on the right track to losing.

2.) Any "one" of these tips could be discussed in excruciating detail - but it won't change this REALITY - You will need to put it into practice in your own 'dietary way of eating' to see how it applies to YOU! Unless of course 100% of the people got 100% of the same results with each and every tip.

3.) There seems to be an unnecessary 'tone' w/ the back and forth - including my own now... and so I apologize in advance for offending WhOmEvEr I just offended.
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Itzjstjeff

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 10:09
"Can't we all just get along" (quote from Rodney King 5/1/1992)



If your not hungry enough to eat an apple, then your really not that hungry!
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umdterpsgirl

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 10:31
I think posts like this are a helpful starting point for newbies, especially those that have no idea where to start or what it means to eat healthy. There are countless times I have seen people post on here things like "What am I doing wrong? Nothing is working! I'm just going to quit!" and then I look at their diet calendar and they don't eat any veggies and don't like to exercise at all. *smh* It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what isn't working. But lots of people need to hear these suggestions on what they could do to improve their weight-loss approach and overall health (especially the stuff that many of us consider to be common sense/obvious).

mummydee

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 10:50
And there are so many little pointers that aid in the quest for weight loss that are not scientifically backed.

Such as putting down your knife and fork while you chew your food and enjoy every bite. We spend so much time thinking about food, buying it or growing it, preparing it and then chomp it down while talking or watching tv, then we look down, the plate is empty and we're still hungry cause it only took 5 minutes to eat. By putting down your fork you slow down the whole process of eating and hopefully learn to enjoy the food as it should be, and you'll eat less by eating slower and eating less leads to weight loss.
LowCarbFemme...

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 11:14
Great post mummydee Smile


mummydee

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 13:43
onedaat

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 13:45
LOL Mummy, that's great. Ahh I can't wait until new episodes of Dr. Who come on Netflix.
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"It is in vain to speak of cures, or think of remedies, until such time as we have considered the causes . . . cures must be imperfect, lame, and to no purpose, wherein the causes have not first been searched.ā€

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If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed. - Mark Twain

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jsfantome

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 14:42
This thread started w/ "10 Things I need to know about losing weight"... and I'm just sayin'... these are not ten things that have helped me be successful in my journey.

And while you may not know me from Adam, I have been on this site for 3 1/2 yrs... have lost 70 lbs, maintained that loss successfully - suffered a major tragedy in my life... regained some.. and am now currently losing again.

If you want to put your fork down between bites to slow yourself - by all means - go for it. But can we stop posting OPINIONS as if they are FACT?

How about asking people what has worked for them? - There's a thread that if I was a 'newbie' - I would WANT to read.

But then each time a low-carb'er and a calorie counter get together in the same forum... it becomes - combative, insulting, argumentative. Which to me is totally unnecessary. Mutual respect would go a long way towards a healthy exchange of ideas, motivation and information.

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mummydee

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 16:49
jsfantome wrote:


If you want to put your fork down between bites to slow yourself - by all means - go for it. But can we stop posting OPINIONS as if they are FACT?




So if it's not backed by science, if it's your opinion and as i said a "a little pointer" , that worked for me, we shouldn't post? It is my opinion, but I think a valid one.

There are many many posts of peoples opinions that are very helpful to newbies and old timers. I enjoy reading them all, along with the people's posts who quote scientific studies and documentaries.

Maybe those first 10 suggestions didn't work for you, doesn't mean they didn't work for someone out there.

That's the beauty of this site., many different facets.
wholefoodnut

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 17:46
Why argue? What works for one person doesn't always work for another. Some basic guidelines never hurt but not all may fit every person.

Several years ago I lost 30#s on Atkins. I couldn't follow through with maintaining because it doesn't fit my "philosophy" on eating healthy foods. I eat mostly veggies, whole grains and legumes. Make whole grain bread every week. Lots of meat and high fat doesn't cut it for me. Earlier this year I tried to make both at the same time--didn't work. The previous time I was married and DH thought meat potatoes and either corn or green beans were that only things to ever have for any meal. Single I cook to fit what I like.

I had a very physical job for a couple years didn't need to worry I worked everything off during the day. My job changed for the past 6 yrs I sit all day. the pounds crept in. I quit exercising with some health issues and mental exhaustion. Reached for a couple beers at the end of the day instead of exercise. I'm back to planning healthy whole food meals and not reaching for that beer when I get home. 2 weeks and I feel better and have lost 10# on my own plan that fits how I like to cook and like to eat.
Food should always taste amazing. The more amazing the more it will satisfy.
Exercise is a pathway to a strong healthy more youthful body.

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onedaat

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 18:26
To be clear, you lost 30#s eating low carb, then gained the weight back by eating carbs?
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"It is in vain to speak of cures, or think of remedies, until such time as we have considered the causes . . . cures must be imperfect, lame, and to no purpose, wherein the causes have not first been searched.ā€

- Robert Burton, The Anatomy of Melancholy

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If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed. - Mark Twain

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goodbyeold

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 20:04
That's funny how you read that onedaat. I "heard" wholefoodnut describe eating more than she was burning and that's how she put weight on after LC. She is eating carb now probably within her calorie expenditure and is now losing weight.
FullaBella

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 20:10
mummydee wrote:
And there are so many little pointers that aid in the quest for weight loss that are not scientifically backed.

Such as putting down your knife and fork while you chew your food and enjoy every bite. We spend so much time thinking about food, buying it or growing it, preparing it and then chomp it down while talking or watching tv, then we look down, the plate is empty and we're still hungry cause it only took 5 minutes to eat. By putting down your fork you slow down the whole process of eating and hopefully learn to enjoy the food as it should be, and you'll eat less by eating slower and eating less leads to weight loss.


This... mindful eating... was a huge factor in helping me. In addition to putting the fork down it helped me to learn to take smaller bites and really focus and appreciate the food.


I'm not losing WEIGHT. I'm converting FAT to MUSCLE to be healthier.
ClassicRocke...

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 21:35
jsfantome wrote:



If you want to put your fork down between bites to slow yourself - by all means - go for it. But can we stop posting OPINIONS as if they are FACT?





What's wrong with someone voicing their opinions? Particularly considering I said the very same thing months ago and it is something I put into practice when I began my journey, so I would eat slower, thus allowing myself the ability to feel full without overeating.



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155 or less by 9/1/2014

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mummydee

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 21:55
Thanks fulla and classic, glad that my'opinion' not backed by scientific data or any documentary, was part of your weight loss goal. It's not one thing alone but many mini hints that help,
jsfantome

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Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 23:26
I wasn't suggesting that offering what has...or has not...worked for anyone isn't helpful. Of course it is. But this thread started with the 10 things you need to know... and then those ten were presented as if they were facts.

While I am happy for people when they find what works for them, and even happier when as a community we share that info w/ each other... I didn't much care for the 'documentary vs. scientific proof' dialogue that followed.

My whole point is that for some...those ten things don't apply. Ten different things will apply. And YES I would hope you do continue to offer your opinions to everyone here. I would hope everyone would contribute to the conversations...

But do we have to prove everything - can we just express what has worked or not, and why we think such and such... without it becoming a thread about 'facts'... that are really opinions to start with.

just sayin'.. not trying to be rude, or argumentative... just my opinion.
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