Low Carb High Fat Shout-Out

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The_Rainbow_...

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Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 19:02
Anyone living low carb high fat? I started this lifestyle change back around the beginning of the year, and though I've fallen off the wagon a number of times, I'm sitting pretty here at 12kilos less than when I had started.

I weigh myself when the whim takes me, do my best to stay wheat and gluten free, don't consume fruit juices, soda drinks, processed foods, etc and don't concentrate on working out or anything. I've even restricted my dairy intake to grassfed butter only until my gut lining has a chance to heal up.

I concentrate on a real, whole food diet, free range/grass-fed meat and eggs (and dairy too, when I go back to it) and grow most of my own veggies, and take home fruit fallen from trees on public land.

Has anyone else changed their lives with LCHF?
In February 2013, I weighed my heaviest at 145kg. Now I work on changing that.
reddarin

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Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 19:27
Yep. 80 pounds of change Smile

Have you tried organic coconut oil? Super stuff. Go easy at first if you haven't used it before.
Clueless101

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Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 19:44
Me too! Love LCHF!!
The_Rainbow_...

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Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 19:58
I have some coconut oil, but I tend to use less of it. It ain't cheap. Razz

I use coconut oil, grass-fed butter, lard and tallow from pastured animals, and occasionally duck fat when I have it. It helps that I know how to render my own lard and tallow, so I make my own from the fat that is on the meat off cuts I buy at the store.
In February 2013, I weighed my heaviest at 145kg. Now I work on changing that.
reddarin

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Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 20:11
Yeah it is an arm and a leg. The least expensive good quality I've found is Amazon and Nutiva's EVCO two pack of 54oz containers. But they are still $20 to $25 each depending on the price (which fluctuates a bit).

Netrition is similarly priced or it was last time I checked several months ago.

Costco has a good deal on it too from posts I've seen before.

I cook with the LouAnn cheapy brand when I am not using bacon grease. I save the EVCO for adding to my morning coffee.
breezeweb33

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Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 09:53
I am low carb and loving it! I read Atkins and now am waiting on my local library for a copy of "Why We Get Fat". I was doing a version of low carb (without intending to) and lost 50 pounds. Someone I know and love convinced me that I need to eat whole grains etc... so I joined Weight Watchers with her and promptly gained 30 pounds eating less than I was before. I quit that and starting researching low carb and realized that it is a viable and healthy alternative to other diets. It works for me and a great side effect is no more migraines!
mmoodd69

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Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 12:10
Great to hear!

The idea of a low glucose diet is not new and was not new with Atkins. It has been used as a medical tool for a few hundred years at least. I mention this only because so many haters of LC think it's new - therefore a fad - but it ain't. Allow me to point out two factoids to tweak the inevitable LC stalkers who always lurk and do ignurnt drive-by's on our threads:

1. Gladiators in ancient Rome knew the usefulness of eating (what we'd call) high carb foods in order to put a layer of protective fat around their torsos.

2. I was watching an episode of the old show I SPY (1966) when Bill Cosby's character turns down someone's offer to dinner, patting his stomach and saying, "Sorry, already ate too much starch and carbohydrate" or something to that effect, complaining how out of shape it was making him.

The effect of what we know to be a high glucose diet is hardly news, and eating a low glucose diet is hardly a fad. Don't let ANY of the attention-starved boneheads around here argue with you on it; you'll just be wasting your time.

Again, welcome!!!
The_Rainbow_...

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Posted: 25 Jul 2013, 17:12
That's right, lol, haters will be ridiculed! Comment at your own risk. Wink
In February 2013, I weighed my heaviest at 145kg. Now I work on changing that.
onedaat

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Posted: 26 Jul 2013, 02:40
I am LCHF, I love it. One tip though, be sure you maintain your sodium, magnesium and potassium levels! If you feel tired or have a headache you should try drinking some salty broth, if you have muscle aches take chelated magnesium, if you're constipated take magnesium oxide, if your health is beating fast then take potassium. Sodium, potassium and magnesium, are the three main electrolytes that are flushed out of your body when you switch to ketosis.


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mummydee

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Posted: 26 Jul 2013, 03:58
breezeweb33 wrote:
I am low carb and loving it! I read Atkins and now am waiting on my local library for a copy of "Why We Get Fat". I was doing a version of low carb (without intending to) and lost 50 pounds. Someone I know and love convinced me that I need to eat whole grains etc... so I joined Weight Watchers with her and promptly gained 30 pounds eating less than I was before. I quit that and starting researching low carb and realized that it is a viable and healthy alternative to other diets. It works for me and a great side effect is no more migraines!


Exact same thing happened to me !! I ate grains for 3 months and gained 15 lbs., stopped and lost it. So it's a LC lifestyle for me for life! I miss nothing and so enjoy my bacon and egg for breaky and that juicy rib eye for dinner with tons of veggies in between.

breezeweb33

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Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 09:25
Wow! Awesome feedback! Thanks Smile I am trying to keep an eye on my vitamin and minerals and I had leg cramps in bed last night so I need to check my potassium. Otherwise it's been great so far. I feel better, have more energy and my headaches stopped with the absence of wheat.

I am always amazed when people say LC is a fad. In fact the earliest "ketosis" based diet I came across was in 1797 as a means of controlling diabetes.

As far as the healthiness of LC, low-carbohydrate diets are used to treat or prevent some chronic diseases and conditions including: cardiovascular disease, metabolic syndrome, high blood pressure and diabetes, epilepsy, chronic fatigue syndrome (ketosis combats fatigue and I am proof of that!) and polycystic ovarian syndrome.

I can live with LCHF. In fact I will probably live quite a bit longer now that I am eating healthier.
eKatherine

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Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 09:32
mmoodd69 wrote:
2. I was watching an episode of the old show I SPY (1966) when Bill Cosby's character turns down someone's offer to dinner, patting his stomach and saying, "Sorry, already ate too much starch and carbohydrate" or something to that effect, complaining how out of shape it was making him.

My parents did carb counting in the 60s. At time it was just a weight-loss diet outside of the mainstream, like "the drinking man's diet". There were a lot of weird diets back then My father did a few diets, my mother did every diet that came along. Nobody considered that longterm changes had to be made to your lifestyle to make permanent changes to your weight.
The_Rainbow_...

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Posted: 27 Jul 2013, 19:00
Thanks for the input on sodium, magnesium and potassium! I suspected that I was low on magnesium when I started getting "mini-cramps" (not quite a full on muscle cramp, but noticeable enough to make me stretch it out). I have been using Himalayan pink salt as my chosen salt, but need to get magnesium and potassium in more. I'm probably not getting it as well as I could via my food if I'm very low (I usually eat for a balance of vitamins and minerals, in order to keep supplements to a minimum).
In February 2013, I weighed my heaviest at 145kg. Now I work on changing that.
onedaat

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Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 13:33
breezeweb33 wrote:
Wow! Awesome feedback! Thanks Smile I am trying to keep an eye on my vitamin and minerals and I had leg cramps in bed last night so I need to check my potassium. Otherwise it's been great so far. I feel better, have more energy and my headaches stopped with the absence of wheat.

I am always amazed when people say LC is a fad. In fact the earliest "ketosis" based diet I came across was in 1797 as a means of controlling diabetes.

As far as the healthiness of LC, low-carbohydrate diets are used to treat or prevent some chronic diseases and conditions including: cardiovascular disease, metabolic syndrome, high blood pressure and diabetes, epilepsy, chronic fatigue syndrome (ketosis combats fatigue and I am proof of that!) and polycystic ovarian syndrome.

I can live with LCHF. In fact I will probably live quite a bit longer now that I am eating healthier.



Magnesium works great for muscle cramps. Be sure to get chelated magnesium since it's easier to absorb. The magnesium oxide isn't absorbed very well which makes it better suited to treat constipation.

If you can't get your hands on chelated magnesium you can soak in a bath with epsom salt which is a type of magnesium salt. It will cure those cramps easily.
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"It is in vain to speak of cures, or think of remedies, until such time as we have considered the causes . . . cures must be imperfect, lame, and to no purpose, wherein the causes have not first been searched.”

- Robert Burton, The Anatomy of Melancholy

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If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed. - Mark Twain

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onedaat

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Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 13:36
The_Rainbow_Alicorn wrote:
Thanks for the input on sodium, magnesium and potassium! I suspected that I was low on magnesium when I started getting "mini-cramps" (not quite a full on muscle cramp, but noticeable enough to make me stretch it out). I have been using Himalayan pink salt as my chosen salt, but need to get magnesium and potassium in more. I'm probably not getting it as well as I could via my food if I'm very low (I usually eat for a balance of vitamins and minerals, in order to keep supplements to a minimum).



I would not be surprised if you are deficient if your only source is from food. Modern farming practices have caused the soil to be stripped of a lot of nutrients. One report I read said 60% of Americans are magnesium deficient. It's even higher if you drink alcohol, caffeine or have a stressful job.

I use 300 mg of Thorne brand magnesium citramate. It was the brand recommended by Dr. Michael Eades which is why I use it. Any kind of magnesium that ends in -ate will work though, the -ate ending shows it's chelated which means it's much easier to absorb. Keep in mind that if you have healthy kidneys it's impossible to overdose on magnesium. Too much will just be excreted, too much can cause loose stool though.
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"It is in vain to speak of cures, or think of remedies, until such time as we have considered the causes . . . cures must be imperfect, lame, and to no purpose, wherein the causes have not first been searched.”

- Robert Burton, The Anatomy of Melancholy

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If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed. - Mark Twain

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The_Rainbow_...

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Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 17:33
I eat mainly organic fruit and veg, which I've either grown myself (easier to care for the soil, in order to ensure good nutrients in the vegetables) or from local sources that have similar practices. If I lived in the US still, there's no doubt I'd be severely malnourished... but Tasmania has a higher quality of food which has done me great good.

In fact I kind of dread visiting home, because it means I have to dodge the bad food, and find the good food among all the crap.

It is possible to get your nutrition from your food (provided it's raised properly). I have managed to raise my iron levels just by eating dark leafy greens and meat (as tested by the blood bank hemoglobin sensors.) So all this good food must be helping in some way.

I will check out chelated magnesium. Smile I think a friend of mine takes it.
In February 2013, I weighed my heaviest at 145kg. Now I work on changing that.
mummydee

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Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 17:48
good for you The Rainbow! have you tried Stinging Nettle tea or soup? very high in iron, root go down about 8 ' so lottsa minerals there.. Don't go picking it, it's called stinging nettle for a reason!
breezeweb33

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Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 18:32
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Magnesium works great for muscle cramps. Be sure to get chelated magnesium since it's easier to absorb. The magnesium oxide isn't absorbed very well which makes it better suited to treat constipation.

If you can't get your hands on chelated magnesium you can soak in a bath with epsom salt which is a type of magnesium salt. It will cure those cramps easily.


Thanks for the heads up. I am going to look for chelated magnesium on my next shopping trip.
Peloux

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Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 18:37
It is interesting to read everyone's experiences with a low carb diet. I have nothing against such a diet - for other people. It does not seem to work for me. I have tried the Atkins diet twice in the comparatively recent past, and each time I had constant indigestion, and frequently had nausea too, nor did I lose much if any weight, and I suspected that the little i did lose was due to not being able to eat when I felt nauseated. The other reasons I did not continue with it are also personal; although I, unfortunately, seem to lack the self discipline to be a complete vegetarian I do avoid eating meat most of the time, as I know too much about the cruelty that usually goes into producing it. Luckily for me, since I love bread, rice and potatoes, I can loose weight if eating a diet high in unrefined carbohydrates - so long as I restrict the total calories of course - and it does not give me the discomfort of severe indigestion that LCHF does.
Jen
mummydee

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Posted: 28 Jul 2013, 18:55
Well then go with what works for you! it doesn't work for me, but that's the beauty of life. When you find what your daily intake should be then reduce it a little to lose weight, you've got the magic solution.
I eat organic, locally grown, grass fed naturally raised meat products and absolutely no processed foods and my heath has improved a thousand fold. good luck to you



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