Diet Pop...Your Opinion, Please!!!

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reddarin

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Posted: 14 Jul 2013, 22:19
Oh, no sarcasm. There is some sweetener that is a very popular alternative to stevia that also produces no insulin response. I am drawing a blank on its name but it was posted every time the subject came up on another forum. I'll figure it out and post the name. I'm sure it started with a T though.
dollymadison

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Posted: 14 Jul 2013, 22:22
I personally think its fine to drink diet soda sometimes. I hate water too and im slowly trying to add more water into my diet. Even though diet soda is rumored to be unhealthy, I dont think it would do much damage to only drink it sometimes.
scoxwell

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Posted: 14 Jul 2013, 22:25
I crave the carbonation more than anything. Perrier, LaCroix, and San Pelligrino have the carbonation so I am able to go without soft drinks as long as I have those on hand. It is just carbonated mineral water.

Also, the carbonation and sodium in sodas can make you more bloated. (Personally the darker sodas sit heavy on my stomach.)
bebegunn

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Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 08:25
Just wanted to check in and say "thanks" to everyone for all the feedback to my question, I appreciate it a lot!
mummydee

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Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 08:37
oops sorry Reddarin, read BS to mean something else! lol..... Stevia, Xylitol and Erythritol, and Chicory root inulin are the 3 best natural sweeteners
"Stevia is a natural plant-derived sweetener which has passed routine testing for safety. It will not raise blood sugar levels so it is recommended for diabetics.

Xylitol and Erythritol are found in the fibres of fruit and some other plants including mushrooms. They are absorbed into the blood stream more slowly than sugar and are low in carbohydrate. Rather than being stored in the body they are eliminated efficiently in the urine. However these sweeteners should be introduced slowly into the diet to allow the body to adjust to their natural laxative effect.

Chicory RootInulin is a fibre which has beneficial probiotic properties for a healthy digestive tract and systemic cleansing. It is low in carbohydrate and does not raise blood sugar levels."

sorry, couldn't find anything with the letter T....
mars2kids

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Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 10:49
I think Reddarin is thinking of Truvia, which is a sweetner out on the market. I have no idea if it's any better or worse than any other sweetner.

I do drink diet caffeine free soda. It's one thing I haven't been able to kick. It is definitely a habit for me, and I've cut it down to one a day. I have some mild health issues already, and my hubby wants me to quit drinking it, but I'm having trouble getting that out of my diet. I just don't know if one a day will truly do damage. I'll have to look into some of that info on the artificial sweetners that people have posted. Maybe that will get me to quit.
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Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 10:59
My preferred drink is black coffee. I do drink herbal tea. There are a number of awesome herbal teas that you might want to try , like the True Blueberry one by Celestial Seasonings.I drink lots of water daily because the body needs it and calls for it. I treat myself to a small glass of A&W Diet Root Beer daily, but I am not drinking gallons of it because I know it is bad for me and will level off on that when I finish my VLCD Challenge in a few weeks. Try adding lemon juice or lime juice to your water with soem Stevia inthe Raw if you like it sweet, or a few drops of other fruit juice to it.
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mummydee

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Posted: 16 Jul 2013, 01:28
Truvia is the name brand on the box. It is Stevia
blynnm

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Posted: 16 Jul 2013, 15:30
If you prefer soda because of carbonation, you might want to try Soda Stream which cabonates tap water. Also, I sometimes add a natural sweetner called Stevia that comes in different flavors (root beer, grape, vanilla cream, etc.). Stevia can be purchased at most natural food store.
Mommy Kymmie

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Posted: 17 Jul 2013, 07:52
Okay... this is how a Doctor explained it to me.

Your tummy feels hungery this is the Ghrelin hunger-stimulating hormone. So, you grab and Apple.

When you eat and apple. The first part of digestion of that apple is in the mouth. You chew, your saliva starts the process of breaking down the food. The body responds by sending hormone messages to the rest of your body the message, "hey, got some carbs with lots of sugars, nutrients and fiber coming our way prepare".

The apple hits the stomach and breaks it down more. It goes to the intestines where again it breaks down more and sends the message to the brain "hey, got the fiber and nutrient you promised...that satified our needs for now" The body uses the Leptin Hormone. Leptin inhibits appetite and ques the body what to do with the food. It also tells the liver what to do with the stored glucose. Insulin and leptin work together to control the quality of your metabolism, and, to a significant extent, your rate of metabolism.

When we take in Artificial Sugars, especially with diet soda's / gum. The process is the same... until the body realizes, "HEY, wait a min... where are my calories, where is the nutrition, carbs and fiber you promised" It's got some liquid there to process, but it messes up the hormone messaging and will quickly send the Ghrelin message again.

I posted earlier on Ghrelin / Hunger Messages. It's grows by x10 everytime. Each time the hormone message starts with I need nourishment and nutrition, and quickly grows to "hey,get me the quickest most densely packed calories I can find." messages IE/ why we can loose will power so fast on starvation / restriction diets alone.

Caution here is when we mess with the leptin and insulin levels in our bodies by what we choose to eat we mess with a whole range of hormone signals. Some people's systems more sensitive then others but put enough stress on the system and anyone can develop insulin resistance and or leptin resistance. The good news is nutrition, diet and exercise helps both.

The Key is to feed our bodies with foods that pack a lot of nutrition into each calorie.

I am still working on that part myself.
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ladyever

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Posted: 17 Jul 2013, 09:10
I don't care for water either. Unfortunately, I personally have a bad reaction to aspartame. Regularly put in my system it can cause absent seizures. That being said, I have friends who have no reaction.

The drawback to diet sodas (aside from the "fake" stuff in them) is that when you crave sugar and give your body something that tastes sweet but doesn't actually have any sugar, your body gets confused.

I sometimes have a diet soda made with splenda (sucralose) but normally try to avoid sodas, or have a full-sugar soda when I want it. Watered down fruit juice is a healthy way to satisfy sweet cravings while reducing the calories per serving. And while sugar is sugar is sugar, juice contains vitamins that soda does not. Adding a little fruit juice to unsweet or lightly sweetened iced tea is another good way to keep calories low while satisfying sweet cravings.

I do try to make myself drink at least four to six cups of plain water a day, and more if I know I'll be doing intense exercise, like Tae Kwon Do, but it's really alright if not all of your fluids are plain water.
JulofDenial

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Posted: 21 Jul 2013, 01:34
Finally, somebody mentioned alcohol, lol!!! I'm wondering if anybody could recommend a low calorie drink that complements whiskey. I can't stomach whiskey straight. I prefer it diluted with a low-calorie drink. I've always had whiskey with diet Pepsi and it's a delicious combo to me. Any ideas you've actually tried would be appreciated!
dandelionSKY

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Posted: 21 Jul 2013, 02:23
Fizzies - love the sweetness, but now I eat healthier and don't crave this so much and the more healthier I eat the more my body would react to a can of fizzy - so I avoid all types whenever possible; but, that's for me personally. If you like the taste of diet fizzies, are not afraid of the bad press and you don't react badly to it - it should be OK in moderation; but, make the rest of your choices healthier.

JulofDenial, whisky with diet pepsi - sacrilege! For me a winter whisky is a 'hot toddy' - half a slice of lemon studded with x3 cloves placed in a heatproof glass with a teaspoon of honey (has to be good quality), a good glug of whisky and topped with hot water - by the time it has cooled enough to drink the flavours have combined. A summer whisky is a 'mac daddy' - dash of bitters, orange zest, glug of whisky, 1/4 glug of ginger liqueur (or if at home less than a tspn of the syrup from the stem ginger jar in the baking cupboard-yum). Finally, when on the fizzies and not drinking it straight - the only way to go was ginger ale Smile .
mummydee

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Posted: 21 Jul 2013, 06:50
I don't drink whiskey so can't help with a mix there, My poison is vodka and soda water with a twist of lime. low cal, low carb and very tasty.
mmoodd69

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Posted: 21 Jul 2013, 08:00
Fresca and/or Tab, as available.

Yeah, they still make both. Ice cold, they're better than anything CokePepsiRC make.
eKatherine

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Posted: 21 Jul 2013, 08:20
The evidence that these are bad for you is mixed. The evidence that using artificial sweeteners play a positive role in weight loss and management is non-existent.

The fatter Americans get, the more artificially-sweetened products they use, while the more artificially-sweetened products Americans use, the fatter they get.

Which is the chicken? Which is the egg?

The truth is that there is basically no science behind standard recommendations to drink 64oz of water a day. It is absolutely untrue that more is always better.

If you exercise in the heat, you will need more fluids. But aside from that, there is no reason to force yourself to drink lots of water when you're not thirsty.

Water tastes a lot better when you're thirsty. Try keeping a bottle of it in the refrigerator and serving it on ice.

If you have an occasional drink of diet soda, it's not going to kill you. If you drink multiple two liter bottles a day of any sort of soda, that's a problem just in general.

reddarin wrote:
Oh, no sarcasm. There is some sweetener that is a very popular alternative to stevia that also produces no insulin response. I am drawing a blank on its name but it was posted every time the subject came up on another forum. I'll figure it out and post the name. I'm sure it started with a T though.

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