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dart451

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Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 20:58
Well, lately I've been keeping my carbs down quite well but I am not getting enough calories apparently!? I always seem low on the calories. I drink plenty of water and feel I'm getting plenty to eat but I'm still in induction. I really do miss having a beer a day but I know the alcohol will burn before fat will. Anyone have a clue what I might change a little?
mummydee

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Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 21:15
What does FS say your daily intake should be? Are you losing? then don't worry, you seem to be eating well and if you're full then don't worry bout it. If you are concerned then throw in a few more healthy fats like an avocado in your salad, or eat some salmon
Victlady

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Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 21:33
Your Cal intake seems to be about right. Add a few healthy fats avocado and olive oil to you diet as has already been suggested. How long have you been on induction? You'll find you will have low cal and carb days and then days you're right on seems to go up and down for me but I am losing and feel well and losing. I don't weight myself just go by size. Good for you holding back on the beer! Wine is my biggie miss!! So hang in there!
dart451

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Posted: 27 Jun 2013, 08:36
Thank you...I was reading some post about not getting enough cals but I guess I'm doing ok...thank you for the responses!
chopp

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Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 13:48
You can get your calories quite easily from fat. Just eat an egg yolk or something.
Clueless101

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Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 19:11
Wow hun, you are NOT eating enough. Some of your calories on days are way to low. Never eat under 1200 cals. That could harm your metabolism and thyroid. I know that lower carb can zap your appetite so you have to kind of watch out and make sure you eat.
It looks like you need more fat from your diet calendar. A few days you were hitting 1700 and 1400 calories. I would think you need 1700 to 1800 calories at least. Cutting calories too low can stall your weight loss. Plus make you sick.
low carb is not low fat.
Also are you adding salt or salty broth. You will need that to help your electrolytes and help you feel well. Low carb causes you to lose a lot of water weight in the beginning as your body sheds glycogen. You need the salt to keep you minerals and electrolytes regulated.
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mummydee

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Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 19:42
eating too few calories has absolutely nothing to do with thyroid function. eating certain foods can help stimulate your metabolism, but thyroid function is controlled by your pituitary gland and low intake has nothing to do with it.
add in healthy fats, salmon, avocado, hard boiled eggs and olive oils on good healthy salads and you'll do fine.

we all need salt, but not processed salt. try Himalayan salt, you use much less. processed sodium is not good. try kelp pills or eating seaweed. nori if you feel your intake is low. from looking at your levels i'd say watch out for the canned products which have a high intake of sodium.. try to sub natural , in season produce instead.
it's a one day at a time thing here., learn and go every day.
good luck to you .. d.
Clueless101

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Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 19:54
Low calorie diets suppress thyroid function. You can do a simple internet search and find all sorts of articles on the matter.

Low intake of what has nothing to do with what?

under 1200 calories would be starvation and that certainly will suppress thyroid. Smile

Have you read The Art and science of Low carb Living?
mummydee

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Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 21:00
i have lived it! for 40 years, i have read and studied and been to holistic and naturopaths and many different drs . the Thyroid functions thru iodine and is produced thru the pituitary gland. eating night shade vegetables can hamper the thyroid production but a low carb diet where you eat good nutritious vegetables and eat high protein and fats has done absolutely nothing to the thyroid function.
your thyroid and the T3 levels and the T4 levels are what stimulates your bodies reaction to the food you intake. an underactive thyroid does not metabolize the foods we eat the same as others and therefore goes to fat storage.
over production of the thyroid hormone leads to graves disease, and under production can lead to goiters and hashimoto's disease..
Clueless101

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Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 21:08
Smile I did not say a Low carb diet hampers Thyroid function Smile
I said low calorie could harm metabolism and thyroid.Smile
900 calories is very low Smile
I am so sorry you have had to live with thyroid issues. Smile
I live with it too, so I know it can be hard. (((hugs)))
I use a low carb diet and it has really helped me, low carb is great for thyroid. Smile
Low calories is not.
Best wishes to you mummydee
mummydee

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Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 21:09
if you have specific studies done , please send them to me, i'm always willing and loving to learn,clueless,
thanks. d.
mummydee

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Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 21:20
thanks, but i find that low carb = low calorie, i eat between 900 - 1200 day depending on the fats..... some days 700 is what is good for me.... so calorie counts do nadda for thyroid function.. my carbs all come from good nutritious vegetables...
mummydee

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Posted: 28 Jun 2013, 21:23
i also have my doubts from the medical community about thyroid function.. i once did for a month, doubled my meds... nadda happened. no weight loss, no better feelings absolutely nothing.... stopped and nothing.. so where did that leave me? wondering...
Victlady

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Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 11:36
@clueless101

"Have you read The Art and science of Low carb Living?"

Wow just ordered from Amazon. GREAT resource!! Thank you I find it hard to eat the enough calories a day not the least bit hungry but will definitely up the cals and start to monitor salts and magnesium. Love well informed folk... that's what forums are for. Thank you again for sharing.
mummydee

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Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 12:45
but you did say "Low calorie diets suppress thyroid function" (suppress/hamper) same thing.... I've worked with homeopathics and naturopaths and taken nutrition courses over the years and have never been told this before.

I'll do some more searching now that you've brought it up!
and yes, that is a wonderful book.


Clueless101

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Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 13:15
Victlady wrote:
@clueless101

"Have you read The Art and science of Low carb Living?"

Wow just ordered from Amazon. GREAT resource!! Thank you I find it hard to eat the enough calories a day not the least bit hungry but will definitely up the cals and start to monitor salts and magnesium. Love well informed folk... that's what forums are for. Thank you again for sharing.


Victlady, yes, man that book was helpful for me. I hope you love it. I feel better when I keep my salt at a good level. I want so bad to be able to take magnesium citrate but it upsets my tummy. I am gonna have to try different forms. Right now I am doing mag oxide. Some people on the other forum have tried making their own magnesium oil. Gotta try that too.
reddarin

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Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 13:37
dart451 wrote:
I always seem low on the calories.


Try hard to keep your calories up it will help you lose weight and stay on plan.

The trick to getting your calories in is to snack between meals. You can easily bump your day's total 300 or 400 calories with two or three very small snacks.

For example, just 12 macadamia nuts has about 200 healthy LC calories. An ounce of Heavy Whipping Cream (HWC) has about 100 calories and you can enjoy it as a HWC Float - diet soda and HWC.

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dart451

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Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 14:32
Thank you very much for all the responses! However, I'm still not sure what to boost my calories without boosting my carbs. Reddarin...you mentioned having snacks and HWC...this sounds good but doesn't HWC have tons of sugar?
reddarin

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Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 14:35
dart451 wrote:
Thank you very much for all the responses! However, I'm still not sure what to boost my calories without boosting my carbs. Reddarin...you mentioned having snacks and HWC...this sounds good but doesn't HWC have tons of sugar?


No, HWC is almost carb free because it has almost no milk sugars so it is a very LC friendly item. I have two to three ounces a day with my coffee every morning (along with a couple of ounces of coconut oil in it).

And if I am low on calories I have a few HWC floats. Coke Zero is super good. Fruity diet sodas are generally excellent too.
reddarin

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Posted: 29 Jun 2013, 14:48
Here is a very good podcast that covers some of the problems with low calorie dieting. Jimmy Moore interviews Julia Ross:

[Direct download link]
http://traffic.libsyn.com/askthelowcarbexperts/atlcx-19-julia-ross.mp3

[Podcast page link with information about the stuff covered]
http://livinlavidalowcarb.com/blog/atlcx-episode-19-how-to-beat-carbohydrate-addiction-julia-ross/14616

[Information about Julia Ross]
http://www.recoverysystemsclinic.com/about_julia_ross.html



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