5:2 Fast Diet

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DQ2

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Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 16:22
If I eat dinner on Wednesday evening fast during the day on Thursday, can I eat dinner on thursday evening?
Spacey47

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Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 16:54
You can eat dinner whenever you want
DQ2

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Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 17:17
Thank you for your response. However, I am trying to determine if I am doing the 5:2 diet corretly.Very Happy
riocaz

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Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 17:24
So long as your calories on fast days total less than 600 calories (or 500 for a woman) how and when you eat those calories is up to you.

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Down from 60" waist jeans since June 21st 2012.

Still keeping to my 26" jeans, but they are too tight for comfort. too many tasty things in the US, and over Xmas.

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DQ2

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Posted: 18 Apr 2013, 17:28
I am trying to determine the 24 hour period. I have had about 600 calories since dinner last night. To satyu within the confines of the diet can I eat a regular dinner tonight?
riocaz

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Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 06:49
There are several variations around the 5:2 diet, but the most common one I've seen doesn't have true "fasts" unless you choose to do it that way.

You can still eat during the day you don't have to have a full 24hr fast so long as you are below your limit (600 for guys, 500 for ladies) within that 24hr period.

I know people who prefer to do it both ways, eat Dinner one day, then fast until dinner the next day giving a full 24hr (or close too) between meals, and others who have 3 meals in their "fast" day but the 3 equal out to 5/600cal.

It's personal preference.

We had a bit of a play around on the subject in another forum for a friend who wanted some sample menus and came up with different menus on the subject, sadly the site is down so I've only got my suggestion available right now:

Breakfast:
You could have an omelette (1 large egg and 2 whites) with 2 roasted tomatoes:
1 Egg 72cal
2 Egg whites: 17calX2 = 34cal
2 plum Tomatoes (80g each): 16calx2 = 32cal
Spray frylight (5 sprays): 5 cal
1tbs chopped chives: 1cal
Total: 143cal

Halve and Roast the tomatoes in a hot oven. This can be done night before and they can be reheated in the morning.

Heat an oven proof non-stick omelette pan over a low flame while you prepare the eggs. Also preheat your grill/broiler.

Whip the whole egg with salt and pepper and chives. Whisk the egg whites to soft peaks. Fold in the whole egg mixture.

Spray the omelette pan with Frylight and pour in the egg mixture. and cook for a minute. Then put under the grill (about 5inches from the grill) for 5-6 minutes or until just set and golden brown.

Serve straight away on a warmed plate or you will lose all the air in your omelette.


Lunch:
100-150 calories of soup or salad is _TONS_. In my experience smooth vegetable soups tend to be lower in calories overall (so long as they've not been loaded with cream or butter).

Carrot or squash soups work very well as they are nice and thick without needing to be thickened with a roux or potatoes etc. If making a chunky soup bulk it out with very low calorie vegetables such as courgette/zuchini and celery. Shirataki noodles can be added to soups for to add further filling with no calories (works particularly well with asian soups or chopped up into spicy tomato soups IME.

Dinner:
You should still have still have >200cal (>300 for a guy) for dinner:

A Quorn fillet (or if you are very strict on the portion some actual chicken) with a Ratatouille style sauce with Cauliflower "Rice" &/or steamed broccoli works surprisingly well and gives a full plate of food for less calories than you would think.

Courgette/zuchini "spaghetti" or shirataki noodles works too with a strictly controlled portion of your favourite sauce.

42" jeans(25/01/2013) 40"(28/02/2013) 38"(20/03/2013) 36"(25/05/2013)
Down from 60" waist jeans since June 21st 2012.

Still keeping to my 26" jeans, but they are too tight for comfort. too many tasty things in the US, and over Xmas.

Onwards and Downwards! Smile
http://www.menu52.com/
kingkeld

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Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 08:52
I think I know what you mean - you want a 24 hour break between meals, as a REAL fast kinda thing. I have done this to reset my feeling of hunger. It's a great way to do it - I highly recommend it, at least the first time.

You basically have dinner say Wednesday. Then, after dinner, you eat NOTHING for 24 hours, until dinner time next day. At this time your meal will be no larger than 600 calories for men, 500 for women. NO snacks afterwards, the rest of that day, unless you have leftover calories of the 600/500. This will give you a break from eating, and you will get in touch with how hunger feels. You will be surprised - it's surprisingly easy!

Also, don't drink anything other than water, coffee and tea during the 24 hour period. No sweeteners, no sugars, no cream. No nothing.

Good luck, and know that on the other side of the 24 hour period is a WAY easier weight loss journey ahead of you.

Had I known what I know now, I would have done this on the very first day of my weight loss journey.

Smile
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mrspackrat

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Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 09:17
Kingfeld, the 5:2 plan doesn't recommend coffee on fast days. For that reason I avoid coffee on those days(and quite frankly even 2 cups gets me jittery even on a normal day so fast day would make me sick). But would you know why it's frowned upon? I can't figure out what would be so bad about a cup of coffee on a fast day.
riocaz

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Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 10:53
First I've heard of coffee not being recommended... I would suspect it depends on the variant as there are several books out on the subject now each with their own slight differences.

I would imagine that if you are drinking more to offset hunger pangs you might well drink significantly more coffee than normal. And if a couple of cups makes you jittery normally...

42" jeans(25/01/2013) 40"(28/02/2013) 38"(20/03/2013) 36"(25/05/2013)
Down from 60" waist jeans since June 21st 2012.

Still keeping to my 26" jeans, but they are too tight for comfort. too many tasty things in the US, and over Xmas.

Onwards and Downwards! Smile
http://www.menu52.com/
mrspackrat

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Posted: 19 Apr 2013, 11:11
Riocaz, the confusion is on my end. In closer reading of the article, it was just giving examples of what to eat and mentions tea but doesn't say anything about not drinking coffee. I can't even drink black tea so I won't even try coffee and just stick to green tea on my fast days. Thanks!
Lorrainehew

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Posted: 26 May 2013, 23:28
Theoretically yes you can, but they way I see it is that the longer you are without food the better. The whole idea is to create a feast and famine situation in your body.
What I do for example is: today is a fast day for me, I stopped eating after dinner last night and now will eat my 500 cals at one meal in the morning (apple) and one at night then eat again tomorrow morning. So really its 37 hours I have restricted my calorie intake by the time I return to usual eating.
Lorrainehew
Lorrainehew

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Posted: 26 May 2013, 23:35
Sorry I was replying to the comment from DQ2. The coffee situation is a personal thing as long as its black. It affects everyone differently, I for one can drink it and not get jittery. Green tea also has caffeine in it.

this taken directly from The Fast Diet Michael Mosley:
There’s no metabolic reason to avoid caffeine during a fast, but if you have trouble sleeping, limit your intake later in the day. You should, of course, drink it black.

Lorrainehew
kingkeld

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Posted: 27 May 2013, 03:15
I don't follow any specific diet. I have simply built my own that works. So I can't say that I follow the 5:2 as such, but what I do is very similar.
I see absolutely no reason to skip coffee, unless you put cream/milk/sugar/anything else in it.
My Low Cal days are 600 calories or less. For the ladies, this supposedly has to be 400-500 calories. I make sure that my RDI on average doesn't go higher than what FatSecret recommends. That's about it.
Whether the brainiacs who came up with the 5:2 have a specific reason to not have coffee I don't know. I will have anything I like as long as I don't go over my calories. If I want to eat all chocolate, then I'll do that. It's a bad deal only living off two Snickers, though. Smile

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"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
Katred12

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Posted: 28 May 2013, 10:13
I am quite happy with my fast day menu. You are welcome to have a look. Today is one for me. Good luck Smile. Kingkeld, thanks for posting, I found it through you. Much, much appreciated. I have to say, I too wish I had known how to eat/diet this way from the start.

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amberrozell

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Posted: 28 May 2013, 10:20
Hi everyone! I want to lose about 10 lbs right now and think this may be the best diet.. are you allowed to exercise on the fast days? I dont ever really like to skip more then one day a week working out. Thanks!
mrspackrat

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Posted: 28 May 2013, 10:23
amberrozell wrote:
Hi everyone! I want to lose about 10 lbs right now and think this may be the best diet.. are you allowed to exercise on the fast days? I dont ever really like to skip more then one day a week working out. Thanks!


If your body can handle it, sure you can exercise on fast days.
emgp5

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Posted: 14 Aug 2013, 16:53
I've been swimming 3 times a week, I'm not a fast swimmer but it's still good exercise as my walking isn't good due to a back problem.
br_e_co

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Posted: 03 Sep 2014, 13:44
mrspackrat wrote:
amberrozell wrote:
Hi everyone! I want to lose about 10 lbs right now and think this may be the best diet.. are you allowed to exercise on the fast days? I dont ever really like to skip more then one day a week working out. Thanks!


If your body can handle it, sure you can exercise on fast days.


I agree ... though opinions are mixed ... i love working out in a fasted state. I usually go mid-morning ... then begin eating after the workout. Personal preference.

Though, if you are going really hard in the gym, i.e. heavy weights, many reps, sprinting, etc. you will lose energy quickly.
GarrettHnati...

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Posted: 08 Sep 2014, 00:10
Sounds like a good healthy diet. It's based on just portion manage and balancing food groups. They are life-long concepts for health and should be be included even for non-dieters, but when attempting to lose weight this method seems easy to remember. Have fun with it, you'll have to tell me how good it works.



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