so what are u able to eat on the atkins diet

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hope nelson

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Posted: 12 May 2013, 14:54
I know your sopost to eat eggs,meat,cheese and vegys
is that the only thing ur able to eat in order 4 this diet to work???
Spacey47

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Posted: 12 May 2013, 15:15
call me crazy , but maybe just maybe

and don't shoot me down here

I know its totally out of left field


and very radical ..........but



perhaps you should read the ATKINS book?


SaraWD

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Posted: 12 May 2013, 15:42
Spacey47, if you are crazy, it certainly isn't evidenced by that response.

Yes, if you are going to do Atkins you have to read the book!

Atkins is most restricted in the first phase. You can see a list of acceptable foods at http://www.atkins.com/Program/Phase-1/What-You-Can-Eat-in-this-Phase.aspx. You add other foods in the later phases.

Refined sugar and white flour are two things that you are never supposed to eat if you do Atkins.

I'll stress again, read the book. Don't rely on the website alone.
hope nelson

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Posted: 12 May 2013, 16:57
ok i will read the book thanx saraWD.
and spacey47 if i had the book i wouldn't ask that question but no ur not crazy but maby a little rude. thanx anyways tho...
mummydee

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Posted: 12 May 2013, 17:12
go into the Atkins Website.. it gives you all the details you'll need. list of foods and how the 4 phases work. plus some good recipes. Induction (first 2 weeks) or more is like a cleanse to get the desire for sugars out of your system. Most people only know this phase of Atkins and think it is too strict and too hard to continue thru life, but it is only to get your body into fat burning mode for energy instead of simple carbs. It is very important that you follow the program and understand that you do add in fruit and complex carbs as you go long and learn what triggers your body to stop dropping the weight and maintain.
The original Atkins diet from the 70's was quite different from the newer version so either go online or get an updated book. good luck.
Spacey47

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Posted: 12 May 2013, 17:21
hope nelson wrote:
ok i will read the book thanx saraWD.
and spacey47 if i had the book i wouldn't ask that question but no ur not crazy but maby a little rude. thanx anyways tho...


Tbh it was a pretty silly question

Your considering something that will have a huge effect on your life and you can't be bothered to read the book!

Or do some basic research


Btw the only thing that will make this or any diet "work" is to maintain a calorie deficit

Just saying
Diablo360x

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Posted: 12 May 2013, 21:39
Spacey47 wrote:
hope nelson wrote:
ok i will read the book thanx saraWD.
and spacey47 if i had the book i wouldn't ask that question but no ur not crazy but maby a little rude. thanx anyways tho...


Tbh it was a pretty silly question

Your considering something that will have a huge effect on your life and you can't be bothered to read the book!

Or do some basic research


Btw the only thing that will make this or any diet "work" is to maintain a calorie deficit

Just saying


Quoted for truth. Knowing this fact will help you get ahead of the game from the get go. Use whichever diet will help you adhere to a calorie deficit. Some diets may set you up for failure, you must learn through trial and error.
Love your food or risk failure. No quick fixes, this is a lifestyle change. No extremes are needed just consistency.
yankgal46

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Posted: 13 May 2013, 05:42
I agree that with any diet you must keep your calories in check! Moderation.
messamermom

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Posted: 13 May 2013, 10:19
Hope, definitely check out the atkins.com website for your information. Also, the forums there have people who are more informed regarding the Atkins way of eating than here on this forum. Pick up the book New Atkins for New You. There is an accompanying workbook/cookbook also.
Spacey47

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Posted: 13 May 2013, 10:26
How comes there's a NEW Atkins book?

Didn't he croak about 10 years ago?
Acricket

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Posted: 13 May 2013, 10:32
Not sure why, but you can eat some vegetables on the induction part. You can go to their web site and read everything free there. I started it on the second of May and am down 7 lbs.
incogneeto

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Posted: 13 May 2013, 13:38
Is this site anti low carb?
Rita41

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Posted: 13 May 2013, 15:12
LOL!!!
mummydee

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Posted: 13 May 2013, 16:35
Yes, Atkins did die of a concussion before anyone brings up the myth of a heart attack. But he had built a foundation and business out of his theory since the 70's and gee guess what he has people that work for him and have continued his studies and therefore updated the books , therefore the New Atkins book has come out. Similar to Weight Watchers, and others, who continually adjust their programs with the newest studies as we learn new information.
for instance in the 70's Atkins followers were encouraged to eat as much as they wanted as long as it was from the 'good food' lists, with no concern for calorie counting. Now there's an RDI for your calories.

Everyone has to find out what eating plan works for them, But if you're going to try this one, please read the book all the way thru and it will help you begin and understanding what you're doing on induction, which is the most drastic change.
Spacey47

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Posted: 13 May 2013, 17:13
mummydee wrote:
. Now there's an RDI for your calories.

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So now it's just calorie counting!

Wasn't the WHOLE point of Atkins in the first place NOT counting calories!

If you have to keep ADJUSTING your original premise it means that your original premise was WRONG which means that your WHOLE CONCEPT is based on WRONGNESS


I don't think the concept of calorie counting has ever changed for those who adhere to it because it's a simple basic fact.. energy in vs energy out pretty much regardless of what you eat within reason ie you could eat sweets all day and lose weight but you might not be very healthy

You can't call it NEW ATKINS because ATKINS NEVER WROTE IT!

You can call it new book by the company founded by Atkins which exists to make money and is trying to keep itself relevant



MommaBear45

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Posted: 14 May 2013, 10:04
Hi all, I'm new here, but Atkins and I have been together for years!
Here is some of what I have learned-hopefully, there are some pointers you might be able to use...
First off, visit the Atkins website, and do the lessons for Induction. Read the book as well. The New Atkins gives more data and research to support Dr. Atkin's plan. Plus, lots of added information updated from his previous books. I use the older edition myself-for food lists and recipes.
When you're on the website, make it a point to print off TWO copies of the INduction Approved lists of foods. I keep one copy on the fridge and one in my purse to use as a grocery shopping list.
The reason you cannot eat some veggies on Induction is because of high sugar and/or starch content. Carrots and Beets are definite no-no's. Much of our sugar supply is derived from Sugar beets. The greener the stuff, the better.
If you go off plan during induction, it can create a flurry of cravings. For sweet cravings, eat a dill pickle to quickly confuse your taste buds. Then, a combination of L-Glutamine, B-complex and Chromium Piccolinate taken daily can help stave off further cravings. Done it, works like a charm.
Make sure you're taking a good multi-vitamin that is iron free. With all the iron-containing veggies and meats you'll be eating...you probably won't need more iron...unless your doctor has advised you otherwise.
Don't just use scales as you're only tool to determine success. Measure yourself too. We don't always lose inches and pounds at the same time. Having two tools helps to encourage us along the way.
Artificial sweeteners. You're allowed 3 serving size portions per day. That means, if the bottle of diet pop you just swigged down had 2.5 servings in it, then you just used up 2.5 of your artificial sweeteners for the day. Be careful how you use your allotment.
Aches and pains. Sometimes, people feel sorta like they have the flu during the early induction days. This has been referred to as the "Atkins flu". To offset those muscles aches, headaches, etc. drink 2 cups of full-sodium chicken broth a day. 1 cup in the am, 1 in the pm. Works wonders.
Oils. Best oils to use are coconut oil, Pure olive oil (some have been cut with cheaper oils), and butter. I'm a great fan of coconut oil.
Watch your portions and ratios. Not written in stone anywhere, but personal experience (and the experience of others has brought me to this point: My best success was with this ratio:
70% fat- 20-25% protien - 5-10% NC. I stayed around 1800 calories per day.
I've gained back a few pounds since my knee surgery, and have to be patient in getting to the point where I can really exercise again. But, eating right really helps.
If you don't live alone, it can be a real challenge staying on plan while others around you are eating carbs. This takes some willpower initially. However, I switch my family to eating less carbs,so willpower isn't so necessary all the time. If you have trouble finding recipes that will accomodate other's likes, try these two places:
www.genaw.com, or www.peaceloveandlocarb.com
An easy, cunchy snack are Atkins-friendly cheese its. Nuke shredded cheese on parchement paper for 2 and half mins. Blot oil, cool and break into pieces. You can use them to dip in your favorite LC dip.
Hope that helps you out. Be diligent, Be careful, and Be healthy!
MommaBear45
shadowx1110

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Posted: 14 May 2013, 15:55
Spacey47 wrote:
mummydee wrote:
. Now there's an RDI for your calories.

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So now it's just calorie counting!

Wasn't the WHOLE point of Atkins in the first place NOT counting calories!

If you have to keep ADJUSTING your original premise it means that your original premise was WRONG which means that your WHOLE CONCEPT is based on WRONGNESS


I don't think the concept of calorie counting has ever changed for those who adhere to it because it's a simple basic fact.. energy in vs energy out pretty much regardless of what you eat within reason ie you could eat sweets all day and lose weight but you might not be very healthy

You can't call it NEW ATKINS because ATKINS NEVER WROTE IT!

You can call it new book by the company founded by Atkins which exists to make money and is trying to keep itself relevant





Allow me to quote your own thread:

"This whole website is based on CALORIE MANAGEMENT so of you are interested in that and can adhere to the rules above I would be happy to discuss and talk with you
I won't post in any more nonsense threads based on pseudo scientific rubbish and in same cases out right LIES
I find many of these posts dangerous and potentially very harmful to people's health and I think the moderators of CALORIE COUNTING website should delete those posts
I may be brusque but what I say will not physically harm you some of the nonsense spouted here might!"

http://fatsecret.com/Community.aspx?pa=fp&t=95233


Considering that you stated plainly that Atkins followers need not to offer their opinions on your thread, and you stated you would not post on these threads of which you do not believe, then why, pray tell, are you trolling yet again on a thread that's labeled clearly to be an Atkins related thread?
Why do you demand respect on your own thread and yet do not give it to others?
This thread has zero to do with calories. Period.
Why not stick to your own thread where others believe what you believe and you can feel oh so superior to everyone else there?
If you have a life, why don't you get on with it then instead of expending so much energy being condescending towards others towards their diets and the way they choose to lose weight?


diddledit40

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Posted: 14 May 2013, 16:20
The beauty of Atkins, and what attracted me to it in the first place, is that as long as you read the book and follow the guidelines and dont overdo your portions, you can lose weight pretty steadily without counting calories. The other MAJOR plus, for me, is that on Atkins I can eat wonderful, satisfying foods and not feel hungry between meals. With Calorie counting, i am forever hungry! And once the calories are all gone for the day....well theyre just gone! I suppose you could count calories, making wise choices to pick foods that are more filling (like Atkins friendly foods), but for me, counting calories is just too time consuming.

I must agree with Spacey47 on the New Atkins For a New You though. They have added some things in there that werent in the original book by Dr. Atkins....most likely all for the sake of money. The original plan worked effectively. No need to change it. I recommend the regular Atkins Diet book if your going to try low-carb dieting. And always move quickly through the rungs so you can add in vital nutrients such as fruit that are missing on induction the first 2 weeks.
mummydee

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Posted: 14 May 2013, 16:49
Well said ShadowX1110 ! exactly what i wanted to say to him, He has nothing positive to add and just seems to want to antagonize everyone. If he (Spacey47) has found what works for him and wants to share that with people, fine. But you don't succeed in any phase of life by putting others down to make yourself look good.
I wish these threads were like FB where you could block the unwelcome, unfortunately its not so i have stopped responding or correcting his immature and egotistical thoughts.
I will simply ignore all he has to say in any thread from now on and I encourage others to do the same.
nosweets4me

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Posted: 16 May 2013, 20:21
hello all, I am new here. I would like to add a comment about adkins diet though. I was dx with type 2 diabeties 7wks ago. I was shocked to say the least. I am controlling my diabetes with diet and what exercise I can tolerate (some walking now). I have not counted calories but I am eating low carb/high fat diet. I am using the atkins dinners along with low carb foods. I am loosely following the atkins diet but I am following the basic jest of it. I have lost 24pnds. I have been pleasently suprised.



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