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Spacey47

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 06:05
. . Do not post if
1. If you believe in: magic calories,magic beans, magic water, magnetized cherries,
Ketones, ionized banana, coffee beans, and other such nonsense
2. If you want to lose 50 lbs in 3 weeks for that: wedding, school reunion, internet date
3.you want a hug, or a there there it doesn't matter. It does matter your health and self worth are are vital to your well being
4. If you have an irrational non scientific view on the world and believe that your body is unlike any other human body recorded and defies all controlled scientific experiments on calorie managed diets
5. You are more obsessed with how you look than your health. Looking good is great don't get me wrong. Being healthy long term is better
6. If you don't like straight talking and want to be babied
7. You are trusting in God to help you, he doesn't exist and he won't there are plenty of obese Christians in the world
8 You want to go on a DIET ........it's about LIFESTYLE

Do post if
1. You want to discuss the only scientifically long term solution to losing and maintaining BODY FAT not just WEIGHT
2. You want to talk to someone who has yo yo weight gain and loss for most of their adult life but has now found a long term solution that allows them to be in great physical shape, regularly eat treats, is a member of a dining club, doesn't exist on tasteless crackers or polystyrene type rice cakes and yet can maintain a body shape and fitness they had nearly 30 years ago!
3. You want great tips on exercising that can be done for free at home with minimal space or outdoors
4.you want great tips on eating a varied and BALANCED diet not to be confused with going on a DIET!
5 You want simple easy tips to help maintain what you will achieve if you stick with it
6 You are in this for the long haul and can be consistent
7 your primary goal is your HEALTH weight loss is a SIDE EFFECT of good HEALTH



Why do I care?
I have achieved and gone beyond my goal. Why should I care about anyone else?
I don't know really but I just get a kick out of passing on something that has really helped me and I like to discuss it with others who are hoping to improve their life. Albeit quite vigorously at times
I am 48 years old happily married to a woman I met at 20 who doesn't judge me on appearances but encourages me to be healthy and therefore happy. I have a young son and a busy job with a lot of responsibility at work and for child care and not much free time to myself.
Naturally I am a combination of mesomorph and endomorph I gain muscle and fat more easily than most.

If you told me this time last year I would look and feel the way I do now I would have laughed
But with consistent application that to be honest hasn't been THAT hard I am now near enough the shape I was at a very svelte 19 years of age only with a bit more muscle!
My wife says she has never seen me this trim and fit and remember we were 20 when we met!

This whole website is based on CALORIE MANAGEMENT so of you are interested in that and can adhere to the rules above I would be happy to discuss and talk with you
I won't post in any more nonsense threads based on pseudo scientific rubbish and in same cases out right LIES
I find many of these posts dangerous and potentially very harmful to people's health and I think the moderators of CALORIE COUNTING website should delete those posts
I may be brusque but what I say will not physically harm you some of the nonsense spouted here might!



Spacey47

Joined: Apr 12
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Posted: 02 May 2013, 06:27
Smile I can take a joke...many cannot!

Still you are in violation of rule 1!
micki13

Joined: Aug 12
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Posted: 02 May 2013, 06:41
Cool, that's a great idea for a thread! I would definitely appreciate exercise tips in minimal space, and balanced diet tips.

Unless I can have some of those ionised Bananas..then I don't need any of that Wink
kingkeld

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 07:16
Spacey, you kill me. You grumpy bear you.

You are - of course - right. It's all about managing your calories. It's all about living your life while you maintain good calorie form - something most of us here have/had issues with. If we didn't, we wouldn't be here.

I know - probably better than most here - that calorie counting WORKS. I know that reading up on your health and weight loss journey WORKS. I know that you can live life and have fun and good food and party WHILE losing weight. I know that you can do pretty much everything you want, as long as you do it right. I know that you need to lear out all the ghosts and find out WHY you have been eating wrong, address those issues and clear the path for your journey. When you do, it WORKS!

I know more than most people how hard losing weight can be. I have done it for at least 35 years before succeeding. I now also know what works - to the point where i am able to teach others, and they are dropping lbs like crazy.

Calorie counting, conscious eating, and understanding your food - it works. Plain and simple.

Visit my website: www.tabdig.info

"Losing weight is never about eating as little as possible"
- Kingkeld.
"You wouldn't worry so much about what others think of you if you realized how seldom they do.
― Eleanor Roosevelt
"Do. Or do not. There is no trying."
- Master Yoda.

I went from morbidly obese to being the owner of TABDIG - a weight loss coaching service that helps people worldwide losing weight. It's been an amazing journey. From October 4th 2010 to April 3rd 2012 I lost half my body weight - 80 kilos/170 lbs. Since then, I have had two cosmetic surgeries to remove excess skin. I have now quadrupled my strength, gained several kilos in muscle mass, and today I focus on building muscle, optimizing my diet, living healthy and helping people to reach the very same goals. I am stronger, healthier, thinner, happier! If you feel that you need help losing weight, don't hesitate to send me an inbox message.
Lulu4lolo

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 07:17
Lets talk exercise. Im a bit lazy when it comes to weight lifting, Oh by the way Im a woman just incase you are wondering. Im doing group exercises because I get motivated when i see other people in the class. So here is my weekly exercise: Monday - Body toning class, we do a lot of exercises using the dumbells, Tuesday - Bosu with dumbells, wednesday - 90mins Zumba, Thursday - Kickboxing class, Friday - Step with dumbells. I dont go on weekends. I havent been eating well in the last 2-3 weeks so I am not loosing any weight but havent gained a lot, I gained +/- 2Kg. Do you think my exercise is enough or not?
My weightloss journey
FullaBella

Joined: Oct 12
Posts: 1,076

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 07:24
I need a hug ...whoops #3! Have a good day Spacey Smile


I'm not losing WEIGHT. I'm converting FAT to MUSCLE to be healthier.
ToHaveOrToBe

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 07:29
Like!
sarahsmum

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 07:49
unlike

Spacey47

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 07:55
Lulu4lolo wrote:
Lets talk exercise. Im a bit lazy when it comes to weight lifting, Oh by the way Im a woman just incase you are wondering. Im doing group exercises because I get motivated when i see other people in the class. So here is my weekly exercise: Monday - Body toning class, we do a lot of exercises using the dumbells, Tuesday - Bosu with dumbells, wednesday - 90mins Zumba, Thursday - Kickboxing class, Friday - Step with dumbells. I dont go on weekends. I havent been eating well in the last 2-3 weeks so I am not loosing any weight but havent gained a lot, I gained +/- 2Kg. Do you think my exercise is enough or not?


Your exercise looks quite substantial to me though only you will know how intensely you are doing it which will impact how many calories you are using

It looks like you have found your maintenance level of what you eat to what you burn off


What I would say is this
1. You can't out train a bad diet fix the food first if you want to lose more weight
2. Make sure you are moving regularly between exercise I.e. you don't train at the weekend but do you move a lot? Such as walking, standing house work gardening etc or are you quite sedentary sitting lying down watching tv etc it all adds up.



Spacey47

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 08:29
micki13 wrote:
Cool, that's a great idea for a thread! I would definitely appreciate exercise tips in minimal space, and balanced diet tips.

Unless I can have some of those ionised Bananas..then I don't need any of that Wink


Hi micki13

Here's a really tough and effective routine you can do literally standing in one spot
all you need is a water bottle and a timer, if you have a smart phone get a free stop watch app

This is a combo I do on a regular basis it seems easy at first but it soon gets tough!

What's good is that you can infinitely vary it to make it tougher or easier. I do 40 mins
you can build up to whatever level you want though I never train longer than 40 if its intense.

Who are the fittest sports people around....boxers and this is a boxing based work out
That takes place over 13x3 minute rounds with 30 secs rest between each round or in my case 10x4 minute rounds with 30 secs rest between round have a glug of water every rest period but don't stop moving gently keep moving on the spot

So we are basically throwing punches and squatting or doing lunges

Each round based on a 3 minute round

30 secs left leg forward keep arm s up like a boxer does and throw punches jab with left and full punch with right (a crossin boxing terms) use your body to throw the punches as quickly as you can but controlled I.e. don't go mental keep good form

After 30 secs reverse right leg forward etc

2nd minute arms by your sides squat down and up as many times as you can for 1 minute, again be controlled but go quickly at least 40 in a minute

3rd minute repeat round 1 30 secs punching both sides

30 secs rest glug a bit of water do another 9 rounds
you can swap squats for alternate leg lunges every other round


Make sure to cool down for 3 mins at the end to bring your heart rate down

If you don't know how to jab, punch , body weight squat, or lunge
Check you tube for examples
Enjoy a free and killer work out! In the space it takes to stand
micki13

Joined: Aug 12
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Posted: 02 May 2013, 08:52
Spacey, that's a great idea for a routine. I live in a small room, so I don't have much space.. I am doing martial art for years, so jabs and punches won't be a problem. cool, thanks a mill!
Spacey47

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 08:53
HANDY TIP

This may apply mainly to men but could work just as well for women
WEAR A BELT ,

1.make sure it's a snug fit,
2.never loosen it to accommodate over eating
3.if it feels tighter cut back on your eating

It is a daily and constant feedback mechanism on how you are doing
aim to get to the next hole down
Spacey47

Joined: Apr 12
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Posted: 02 May 2013, 11:22
micki13 wrote:
Spacey, that's a great idea for a routine. I live in a small room, so I don't have much space.. I am doing martial art for years, so jabs and punches won't be a problem. cool, thanks a mill!


No problem the good thing about it is you can make it as hard or as easy as you want.

The other benefit is you are alternating between lower and upper body exercises so your cardiovascular system has to constantly work and push blood throughout your body

I like doing the 4 minute version as it feels a bit more balanced in terms of the upper and lower split as I do the 4 mins as

1min Punch, 1 min Squat, 1 min Punch, 1 min Lunge

suzygirl1017

Joined: Dec 10
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Posted: 02 May 2013, 12:53
I wish I could copy and paste this and send this to my friends trying to sell me on magic powders and shakes. Great post!
I'm back on track!
Lost 50 lbs. in 2011, gained a bit back after pregnancy.
If did it once, I can do it again!


Goal #1: 190 lbs. - Met April 29, 2013
Goal #2: 180 lbs. - Met June 9, 2013
Goal #3: 170 lbs. - Met September 6, 2013
Goal #4: 160 lbs.
Goal #5: 150 lbs.
The BIG Goal: 145 lbs.
Spacey47

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 14:26
jonnybadback wrote:
@Spacey...can you quote a scientific paper from our peers that God does not exist? Wink

I can if you can quote one saying that he/she does

Either way doesn't appear to be much shakes in the help you lose weight department!
micki13

Joined: Aug 12
Posts: 154

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 14:42
Spacey-great stuff,done 4min of the exercise.thanks for starting this thread.Smile
About time..
kkd1125

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Posted: 02 May 2013, 15:19
Thanks, Spacey47. I'm so tired of coming to this site and seeing voodoo diet threads rather than simple sharing of tips and techniques for eating less and moving more. I love your practicality. To me, the simpler this positive, healthy lifestyle change is, the easier it is to maintain. You echo the simplicity that it should be. Thank you.
Spacey47

Joined: Apr 12
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Posted: 02 May 2013, 16:52
Hi all

I'm glad some people are gaining something positive from the thread and it is open to anyone with suggestions as long as they remain within the rules

Often the best tips and advice are the simplest and you get the homer Simpson doh moment of why didn't I think of that?

Here's a really silly and simple tip that actually works for me

THINK OF FOOD AS EXERCISE!

when I'm about to pull the trigger on popcorn, chocolate, crisps etc
I look at the calories on the pack and think...how much would I have to train to burn this off.

1 bag of popcorn= a 5 mile power walk.......eeek

This quick mental calculation has given me that moments pause so I DON'T
buy or eat that piece of food because I know what it costs in terms of effort I have to exert to burn it off

Now and again I say to hell with it but more often than not I don't eat it
Diablo360x

Joined: Jul 11
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Posted: 02 May 2013, 16:54
Great thread! Since you shared some personal info I thought I would as well.
I am 31 years of age, married and have two beautiful girls. I've been into losing fat and getting healthier since 2000. I've tried every diet out there attempting to get and stay in shape. None of them were maintainable for long as I would quickly rebound or just always remain out of range of my goal.

I believed all of the myths that are STILL pushed by fitness magazines. It makes me angry on how much money I spent over the years on those magazines and how much harder they made dieting. They are all lies in an attempt to keep their sponsors happy. Selling meal replacements to someone who thinks they need to eat 5-8 times a day is not very difficult especially when every other page is an ad.

Anyway, I now simply count calories and have lost and maintained a healthy weight for a long time. It is so much easier now. I hope that this thread can help people turn away from fad diets that only make the journey harder.

I will also volunteer to answer any questions when Spacey is away or just needs the help. Thanks for starting the thread Spacey.
Love your food or risk failure. No quick fixes, this is a lifestyle change. No extremes are needed just consistency.
Spacey47

Joined: Apr 12
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Posted: 02 May 2013, 17:02
Thanks Diablo,

I just wanted to start a thread for sane and rational people
I don't claim to be an expert and anyone can contribute as long as they stick to the rules
of no nonsense posts and I think we all know what that means

Please feel free to answer posts and give us your tips, I am always looking to learn new things




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