Fred... I don't see a single person on here arguing with your point. In fact a lot of us are more or less agreeing with you that Atkins products are not what they claim to be and will make you gain. A lot of us got educated by our bodies and decided they weren't good for us to rely on. And a lot of us choose to not to listen exclusively to the book, and decide to steer clear of processed foods and focus on whole natural foods with one ingredient, which the book actually heavily stresses (newer versions I know nothing about.. I read the book before Atkins products were even born and rely on that).
That being said, there ARE some people who lose weight with these products... that's great for them, but I'm one of those people who can't. There's things that are low carb and healthy to eat, and a lot of low carbers can have, but I can't. Flax seed meal, for one. I can't have that and still lose weight. You must realize that people are fundamentally different and what works for one doesn't work for all. That is why I mostly tell new "cultists" (lol) to experiment if they want but be cautious because MANY people have trouble with them. fredmugs wrote:
Like most cultish groups you can't tell the Atkins community anything they don't want to believe.
^^ I take offense to that. You lumped all of us low carbers together in one group and labeled us all as "cultish" and you were negative when no one was negative toward anyone else in this thread until you said that. It was really uncalled for as a couple of others have already said. Maybe you missed it, but people are offended by your attitude towards other people, not your point.
I was actually reading your original post with an open mind and agreeing with you up to the point when you made that statement. I then decided that it was quite "trollish" to come onto an Atkins thread, on an Atkins forum, and say something like that when you aren't on the Atkins diet yourself. I felt that you deserved no response and you didn't really get any response other than "hey that's rude". Yet you're back and arguing with a wall.... no one is arguing with your point. Thank you for the information, I'm sure it will help a lot of newbies with deciding on the Atkins products. Unless you have an apology for being disrespectful I think you've finished making your point, right?