Veggies are great. Legumes are not.

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4a-healthy-b...

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Posted: 26 Feb 2013, 22:10
I'm not sure how to edit this diet, so I'll just make a note here.

It is unfortunate that they lumped veggies and legumes into the same category because they really do not share the same macronutrient profiles at all.

Legumes are mostly starch, and therefore not helpful at all for eating the way I do.

Leafy greens, tomatoes, cucumbers, winter squash are all fantastic and I eat them a lot. I even occasionally splurge on a baked plain sweet potato.

Just wanted to clarify.


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Posted: 27 Feb 2013, 09:52
And then there are legumes that are eaten as fresh, green vegetables.

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Posted: 27 Feb 2013, 14:50
Even legumes that are "fresh" still have way more starch in them than I can handle in my own parameters. I don't consider them as 'green vegetables' (they may be green, but they're a far cry from real leafy greens, LOL)

Perhaps a semantic difference, but based on macronutrient content. Smile


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Posted: 27 Feb 2013, 14:54
Wonder if a baked sweet potato would not be starchier than most or at least some lentils

I eat both in small portions at odd times.
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Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 10:41
How would you classify something like Mange-tout then? Technically it's a legume, but it's comparable with some cabbages.

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Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 11:20
It is a semantic difference. The fact is that many people have done research, decided that they are safe to eat, and eat them with no issues.

It's more than an issue of semantics when you redefine normal foods to confuse other people, it is pedantry. Legumes really are a vegetable, as are fresh sweet corn and tomatoes.
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Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 11:42
Tomato is a fruit... : )
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Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 06:55
LOL Corn is definitely a grain, and indeed tomato is technically a fruit.

There was a good point made that baked sweet potatoes probably have more starch than lentils. I have a baked sweet potato maybe once a month, as a treat. It would be hard to consider lentils a treat, hahaha.


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Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 07:03
And I'm a nut Very Happy. I've heard they come in several different varieties... Razz
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Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 07:04
4a-healthy-bmi wrote:
LOL Corn is definitely a grain, and indeed tomato is technically a fruit.

If it is more important to you to make an ideological point than to communicate with people, you can set yourself up to try to re-educate the world. Since fresh corn, legumes, and tomatoes are always classed as vegetables, people will think you are weird and pay no attention to your opinion.

It's not like FatSecret made a bizarre and irrational decision to categorize legumes with vegetables. They did it the way it is always done, and that's where everybody is going to go to look for legumes, in the vegetables.
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4a-healthy-b...

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Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 09:59
@eKatherine

*shrug*

I found it odd that they classifed legumes with vegetables.

But you're right, the definition of "vegetable" is very fluid in our culture. So perhaps I should not have been surprised.

Anyway, I eventually figured out how to split legumes from what I personally consider vegetables in my diet description, so I suppose there really isn't a problem, anymore.

@blueniamh

Nuts are great, both the edible kind and the people kind. My favorites are almonds.

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Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 10:46
Almonds are great, but pistachios rock my world.
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Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 20:35
Neither of which are, in fact, forms of nut... If you want to be technical about it...
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Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 21:10
Laughing Damn, knew I should have looked that one up...smarty pants Razz.
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Posted: 03 Mar 2013, 03:43
And then there are peanuts.... Which are not peas lol
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Posted: 03 Mar 2013, 05:35
So are corn nuts considered a vegetable or snack? LOL


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Posted: 03 Mar 2013, 20:01
jonnybadback wrote:
And then there are peanuts.... Which are not peas lol


or nuts. But are legumes IIRC so are at least related to peas.

FullaBella wrote:
So are corn nuts considered a vegetable or snack? LOL


I have no idea what a corn nut is.

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Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 12:56
riocaz wrote:
I have no idea what a corn nut is.


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