Veggies are great. Legumes are not.

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4a-healthy-b... Joined: Feb 13 Posts: 9	quote Posted: 26 Feb 2013, 22:10 I'm not sure how to edit this diet, so I'll just make a note here. It is unfortunate that they lumped veggies and legumes into the same category because they really do not share the same macronutrient profiles at all. Legumes are mostly starch, and therefore not helpful at all for eating the way I do. Leafy greens, tomatoes, cucumbers, winter squash are all fantastic and I eat them a lot. I even occasionally splurge on a baked plain sweet potato. Just wanted to clarify. Never, ever, EVER give up! From BMI 52+ (335+ lbs) to BMI under 30. Now aiming for less than 19% body fat. Watch me shrink: http://tinyurl.com/4A-HEALTHY-BMI-shrink Moving average of weight: http://tinyurl.com/4A-HEALTHY-BMI-graph More about me: http://tinyurl.com/4a-healthy-bmi-sp
eKatherine Joined: Aug 12 Posts: 937	quote Posted: 27 Feb 2013, 09:52 And then there are legumes that are eaten as fresh, green vegetables. Don't eat the things you don't think you should be eating and eat only things you should. Why pick a diet you think is wrong for you?
4a-healthy-b... Joined: Feb 13 Posts: 9	quote Posted: 27 Feb 2013, 14:50 Even legumes that are "fresh" still have way more starch in them than I can handle in my own parameters. I don't consider them as 'green vegetables' (they may be green, but they're a far cry from real leafy greens, LOL) Perhaps a semantic difference, but based on macronutrient content. Never, ever, EVER give up! From BMI 52+ (335+ lbs) to BMI under 30. Now aiming for less than 19% body fat. Watch me shrink: http://tinyurl.com/4A-HEALTHY-BMI-shrink Moving average of weight: http://tinyurl.com/4A-HEALTHY-BMI-graph More about me: http://tinyurl.com/4a-healthy-bmi-sp
liv001 Joined: Oct 09 Posts: 555	quote Posted: 27 Feb 2013, 14:54 Wonder if a baked sweet potato would not be starchier than most or at least some lentils I eat both in small portions at odd times.
ebivr Joined: Jun 08 Posts: 422	quote Posted: 28 Feb 2013, 17:01 Congrats! on losing over 180 lb+ & maintaining it for 3 years! I know how hard it is to maintain. I lost over 150+ lbs around 3 years ago too. But promptly put it back on when I started plateauing & actually gaining! on very little calories & thus lost serious motivation. I became burned out & once I fell off the bandwagon I couldn't get back on it (no matter how hard I tried) until these last 4 months. "Do what thou wilt shall be the the Law, Love is the whole of the law, Love before will, The meaning of life is to Love" "Never apologise for who you are" "Leave as little negative impact on the world as possible" "Last night fear knocked on my door, faith answered and no one was there" Even if it's slow it's going to Go! Starting weight: 318 lbs!! 2nd of June 2008, (Calorie Counting!). June 08 Month 1: 298 lb (20 lb. lost). July 08 Month 2: 291 lb (7 lb. lost). August 08 Month 3: 279 lb (12 lb. lost). September 08 Month 4: 268 lb (11 lb. lost). October 08 Month 5: 257 lb (11 lb. lost). November 08 Month 6: 248 lb (9 lb. lost). December 08 Month 7: 235 lb (13 lb. lost). January 2009 Month 8: 229 lb (6 lb. lost). February 09 Month 9: 223 lb (6 lb. lost). March 09 Month 10: 211 lb (12 lb. lost). April 09 Month 11: 208 lb (3 lb. lost). May 09 Month 12: 210 lb (+2 lb. gained). June 09 Month 13: 188 lb (22 lb. lost). July 09 Month 14: 181 lb (7 lb. lost). August 09 Month 15: 179 lb (2 lb. lost). Starting weight: 305 lbs!! 19th of November 2013, (Atkins!). November 2012 Month 1: 297.2 lb (7.8 lb. lost). December 2012 Month 2: 292 lb (5.2 lb. lost). January 2013 Month 3: 276.8 lb (15.2 lb. lost). February 2013 Month 4: 262.6 lb (14.2 lb. lost). March 2013 Month 5: 276.6 lb (+14 lb. gained). April 2013 Month 6: 253.4 lb (23.2 lb. lost). May 2013 Month 7: lb ( lb. ).
riocaz Joined: Jun 12 Posts: 491	quote Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 10:41 How would you classify something like Mange-tout then? Technically it's a legume, but it's comparable with some cabbages. 42" jeans(25/01/2013) 40"(28/02/2013) 38"(20/03/2012) Down from 60" waist jeans since June 21st 2012! Mini-goals 2013: 1-5 complete! Mini-goal 6: 36" Jeans <- Bought I can get them on but they are a bit tight to wear all day. Mini-goal 7: 220lb 2013 Targets: 16st/224lb (Main Target) 15st/210lb (Buffer to give myself some leeway as I readjust my calories) Treats: St Paul's Cathedral - Climbing to the Whispering Gallery and Beyond! Painting course - Started! Onwards and Downwards!
eKatherine Joined: Aug 12 Posts: 937	quote Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 11:20 It is a semantic difference. The fact is that many people have done research, decided that they are safe to eat, and eat them with no issues. It's more than an issue of semantics when you redefine normal foods to confuse other people, it is pedantry. Legumes really are a vegetable, as are fresh sweet corn and tomatoes.
ToHaveOrToBe Joined: May 11 Posts: 82	quote Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 11:42 Tomato is a fruit... : )
4a-healthy-b... Joined: Feb 13 Posts: 9	quote Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 06:55 LOL Corn is definitely a grain, and indeed tomato is technically a fruit. There was a good point made that baked sweet potatoes probably have more starch than lentils. I have a baked sweet potato maybe once a month, as a treat. It would be hard to consider lentils a treat, hahaha. Never, ever, EVER give up! From BMI 52+ (335+ lbs) to BMI under 30. Now aiming for less than 19% body fat. Watch me shrink: http://tinyurl.com/4A-HEALTHY-BMI-shrink Moving average of weight: http://tinyurl.com/4A-HEALTHY-BMI-graph More about me: http://tinyurl.com/4a-healthy-bmi-sp
blueniamh Joined: Dec 12 Posts: 102	quote Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 07:03 And I'm a nut . I've heard they come in several different varieties...
eKatherine Joined: Aug 12 Posts: 937	quote Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 07:04 4a-healthy-bmi wrote: LOL Corn is definitely a grain, and indeed tomato is technically a fruit. If it is more important to you to make an ideological point than to communicate with people, you can set yourself up to try to re-educate the world. Since fresh corn, legumes, and tomatoes are always classed as vegetables, people will think you are weird and pay no attention to your opinion. It's not like FatSecret made a bizarre and irrational decision to categorize legumes with vegetables. They did it the way it is always done, and that's where everybody is going to go to look for legumes, in the vegetables.
Sheonamcc Joined: Jun 09 Posts: 155	quote Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 07:23 4a-healthy-bmi: I just wanted to say how amazingly inspirational you are. I followed the links beneath your post and way amazed at how much you've achieved. I hope you succeed in reaching your new goal and continue to inspire as you go! ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ You can also find me on facebook, where I share my recipes and lifestyle changes Real Food Recipes: http://on.fb.me/VGwgH5 ¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸
4a-healthy-b... Joined: Feb 13 Posts: 9	quote Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 09:59 @eKatherine shrug I found it odd that they classifed legumes with vegetables. But you're right, the definition of "vegetable" is very fluid in our culture. So perhaps I should not have been surprised. Anyway, I eventually figured out how to split legumes from what I personally consider vegetables in my diet description, so I suppose there really isn't a problem, anymore. @blueniamh Nuts are great, both the edible kind and the people kind. My favorites are almonds. @Sheonamcc Congrats yourself! Wow! Never, ever, EVER give up! From BMI 52+ (335+ lbs) to BMI under 30. Now aiming for less than 19% body fat. Watch me shrink: http://tinyurl.com/4A-HEALTHY-BMI-shrink Moving average of weight: http://tinyurl.com/4A-HEALTHY-BMI-graph More about me: http://tinyurl.com/4a-healthy-bmi-sp
blueniamh Joined: Dec 12 Posts: 102	quote Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 10:46 Almonds are great, but pistachios rock my world.
riocaz Joined: Jun 12 Posts: 491	quote Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 20:35 Neither of which are, in fact, forms of nut... If you want to be technical about it... grin 42" jeans(25/01/2013) 40"(28/02/2013) 38"(20/03/2012) Down from 60" waist jeans since June 21st 2012! Mini-goals 2013: 1-5 complete! Mini-goal 6: 36" Jeans <- Bought I can get them on but they are a bit tight to wear all day. Mini-goal 7: 220lb 2013 Targets: 16st/224lb (Main Target) 15st/210lb (Buffer to give myself some leeway as I readjust my calories) Treats: St Paul's Cathedral - Climbing to the Whispering Gallery and Beyond! Painting course - Started! Onwards and Downwards!
blueniamh Joined: Dec 12 Posts: 102	quote Posted: 02 Mar 2013, 21:10 Damn, knew I should have looked that one up...smarty pants .
jonnybadback Joined: Aug 12 Posts: 314	quote Posted: 03 Mar 2013, 03:43 And then there are peanuts.... Which are not peas lol
FullaBella Joined: Oct 12 Posts: 512	quote Posted: 03 Mar 2013, 05:35 So are corn nuts considered a vegetable or snack? LOL Eat What you Love ~ Love What you Eat
riocaz Joined: Jun 12 Posts: 491	quote Posted: 03 Mar 2013, 20:01 jonnybadback wrote: And then there are peanuts.... Which are not peas lol or nuts. But are legumes IIRC so are at least related to peas. FullaBella wrote: So are corn nuts considered a vegetable or snack? LOL I have no idea what a corn nut is. 42" jeans(25/01/2013) 40"(28/02/2013) 38"(20/03/2012) Down from 60" waist jeans since June 21st 2012! Mini-goals 2013: 1-5 complete! Mini-goal 6: 36" Jeans <- Bought I can get them on but they are a bit tight to wear all day. Mini-goal 7: 220lb 2013 Targets: 16st/224lb (Main Target) 15st/210lb (Buffer to give myself some leeway as I readjust my calories) Treats: St Paul's Cathedral - Climbing to the Whispering Gallery and Beyond! Painting course - Started! Onwards and Downwards!
erika2633 Joined: Nov 11 Posts: 654	quote Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 12:56 riocaz wrote: I have no idea what a corn nut is. WHAT?????? Someone who is busier than you is working out right now. There will come a day when you can no longer do this. Today is not that day.

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