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FullaBella

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Posted: 13 Dec 2012, 15:46
A couple of days ago my grandson came in from school and commented 'they're freaking starving us there - they only allow us a maximum of 800 calories for lunch!'

I showed him statistics that 800 calories for lunch was a fair proportion of the recommended 2500 cals a day for his age/height/weight but he was adament it was 'not'. When I asked the choices it was 'pizza, burgers, fries...' and I asked 'vegetables, fruit?' he answered 'no.'

We discussed the rest of his meals and he claimed he just wasn't able to up his breakfast intake (oatmeal or cereal & milk) any more than it was because it made him sick throughout the morning.

So I suggested maybe taking a peanut butter sandwich and some fruit in his backpack for a mid morning snack and/or afternoon snack instead of giving him $$ to eat crackers & chips from the vending machine.

I'm going to follow up with the school ~ or most likely, direct his Mom to follow up ~ to find out if this really is limited and the 'no fruit, no veg' is fact or if it's a teenager pulling a scam on Nana but have any of you experienced anything similar from your children / grandchildren? If so, how did you handle it? Or do you have recommendations on how I could have handled it better?





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kingkeld

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Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 03:22
Sadly, the kid might be right. I hear stories like this every now and then. I remember a little while back some school caught a LOT of heat because they tried justifying the tomato sauce on pizza as serving "vegetables". I hope this is not the case here, and if it is then that someone will get this corrected. These kids spend all day in school. At least give them some nutrition.

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riocaz

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Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 04:57
I can't really discuss the school meals thing as I am assuming you are over the pond.

Just to backup your grandson's comments about breakfast.

I rarely eat in the morning. I have to wait several hours after getting up even if I'm ravenous otherwise I feel nauseous for most of the day. So by the time I'm able to eat I may as well wait for lunch (if it's not actually lunchtime.

Though I personally would suggest something like Hummus and veggies to dip over a sandwich purely because veggies = good and the extra fibre will help fill him up all the more. Particularly if what he was saying about the lack of them at lunch is true. Though it's a lot easier to scarf down a sandwich between classes than a pile of veggies.

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FullaBella

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Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 06:54
Thank you both. The follow up with his Mom is veg / fruit is offered so I'm a little relieved its "there" but control freak me I'll likely pop in and check it myself to validate the catsup with fries isn't the veg of the day. I agree with a better quick snack choice but was aiming for something easy enough for a 15 y.o. to pack besides junk food. I definitely understand him always feeling hungry - he's already 6'5" and weighs 160. We may go shopping this weekend and pick him up some solutions. I'm in the US so I don't know if that makes me across the pond but I definitely feel over a barrel.


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riocaz

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Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 08:54
"Over the pond" from me here in the UK at least FullaBella. Smile

One massive advantage of a sandwich is that he's unlikely to get grief from his peers munching on it mid-morning/afternoon. Dipping some crudite might get him a bit of heckling however...

15 year old boys are renowned for their ability to pack away food though. And if he's at all sporty he is probably burning all that 2500 RDI and more.

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Still keeping to my 26" jeans, but they are too tight for comfort. too many tasty things in the US, and over Xmas.

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eKatherine

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Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 11:05
One thing I have read is that a lot of the complaints we are hearing are because of change that will blow over in a few weeks as kids get used to the present assortment of foods, and what is actually being served is being misrepresented by kids who are trying to manipulate adults.
riocaz

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Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 11:33
Yea try and avoid scenes like they had in the UK a few years back of parents handing their kids fish and chips, and pizza through the school fence as a protest against the school daring to serve them healthy food.

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Down from 60" waist jeans since June 21st 2012.

Still keeping to my 26" jeans, but they are too tight for comfort. too many tasty things in the US, and over Xmas.

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eKatherine

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Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 12:23
We have plenty of parents here in the US who think it's the school's responsibility to teach the kids to eat and like healthy foods that parents never prepare or serve at home. Then the parents turn around and scream that their kids' rights are being violated when the school eliminates corn chips with melted cheez wiz as a menu choice.
FullaBella

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Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 12:44
HAHA ... so no extra large deep dish pizza delivered at lunch, huh? LOL.

Since posting this & giving him the PBJ suggestion he's said he's 'better' but I will probably instruct his MOM to follow up on the lunches.

I had seen the news about the schools changing lunches but thought it was going to be more 'healthy food choices and high fat restriction' not a caloric restriction across the board. If it's the same old fast food crap that's an issue. Heck, 800 cals is about 1 slice of pizza, huh?

I'd really like to see him eat 800 cals of 'fruit/veg' for lunch ~ he'd still be chewing by the time the bus pulled up.


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eKatherine

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Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 12:52
I swear, I was substituting in the resource room at an elementary school for a few weeks. One woman who was an employee there had a diabetic son who was in school in the town they lived in. She was a large woman who was always loudly on a diet but never seemed to follow it closely. She put up little motivational signs around the room that really didn't belong in a classroom ("Nothing tastes as good as thin feels" ). Because she was an adult and requested it, the cafeteria would serve her a meal with double entrees.

One day her came to school with her. She was absolutely outraged that they wouldn't let him have a meal with two servings of lasagna and no vegetables or fruit, because that's what they were required to serve to the children. Hello?
FullaBella

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Posted: 14 Dec 2012, 14:25
Hmm....what do they call that... projection? Maybe she knew as the parent she has a responsibility to lead by example and was trying to motivate herself with the posters despite the inappropriate setting and the double portions at lunch. As an adult she should be able to choose what she eats and accept the results. Hopefully by now a physician or nutritionist has helped her better understand how to approach and support the dietary adjustments her son may need until he's old enough to make his own choices.


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sheriblackfo...

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Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 13:22
Calories do not fill a person up. Volume in the stomach not calories make a person feel full. If they are only offering small portions of high calorie foods (pizza, hamburgers) and no vegetables and fruits than the problem is with the food offered NOT the calorie limit.
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Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 14:07
Instead of cereal in the morning why not have him try eating some eggs, bacon, toast(with real butter) and a pice of fruit in the morning. It's quick to make and I bet by lunch he wont be starving and will probably crave something nutrious like the fruits and vegies.

Breakfast cereals are refined & processed foods and lack any natural nutrients.

The school lunches are not quality foods and are not approriate for a growing/developing body.

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FullaBella

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Posted: 04 Jan 2013, 16:04
Sheri & Mike I agree with you both.


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