Whey Protein - Any good for losing Fat?

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homeriscool

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Posted: 05 Nov 2012, 06:16
Hi all, i know whey protein is a high protein powder when mixed with milk / water ect. Is it any good for a low carb diet if i was to get a low carb whey protein powder?
Preggo38

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Posted: 05 Nov 2012, 06:21
It is a great way to get extra whole protein if you can't fit in a meal. I always have a protein shake after a workout.
Diablo360x

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Posted: 05 Nov 2012, 09:13
Drinking calories is never recommended unless you're underweight and need an easy way of getting extra calories. Eating solid meals will be more filling.
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PeeFat

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Posted: 05 Nov 2012, 15:25
Yes. Getting enough protein is crucial to keep your metabolism going and prevent your body from breaking down your muscle tissue to get important amino acids you need. I eat every 3 hours and get some protein at each meal. A protein shake and some raw almonds is my snack between breakfast and lunch every day. I still low carb it most of the time, but I do have a protein shake and a banana post workout as well. If you don't get enough protein and your losing muscle tissue your lowering your RDI and slowing down your metabolism.

Chicken, tuna, salmon, eggs, low fat cottage cheese ect is your best choice but protein powder is also great to have on hand.

I use Promasil, very easy to mix... 90 calories, 1g fat, 0g carbs, 20g protein.
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Posted: 05 Nov 2012, 18:30
Not sure sure how effective it is for losing weight. I know my husband uses it for muscle gain after lifting weights. Smile
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Posted: 05 Nov 2012, 22:39
Whey (a byproduct of cheese making) in its natural form, not as a protein isolate devoid of enzymes, vitamins and minerals is good for you and healthy (though it does not look very appetizing and tastes and smells funny). It is also a good source of protein, and is easier to digest than casein. However the very fact that it was historically used to fatten pigs and chicken makes me somewhat skeptical about its potential for weight loss. Also given a choce i would rather not use anything that is spray dried on a regular bases, as there are indications that these products tend to raise your cholesterol levels. Other than that it is obviously a better choice for weight loss than a doughnut.

Edited: Also read recently that whey causes very high insulin responce. Those of you who are fortunate to not know what insulin is and thus believe that insulin does not matter, can ignore this information and do not need to reply with links to another bodybuilder blog. But for me it just proves the fact that though our ancestors had no access to internet they were rather observant, and were able to notice that pigs and poultry get fatter on whey. Also if you do have any problems with insulin production (be it high, low or resistance), whey might still not be a good option regardless of weight loss potential. So use your own judgement and not what manufactures want you to believe.
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Preggo38

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Posted: 06 Nov 2012, 06:18
Ingria ...whey protein isolate is just a more pure form of whey protein without fat, lactose and extra carb. 90+ % protein by weight versus 70-75% pure protein by weight in just whey powder (which will have additional fat, carb and lactose). It is however more expensive than whey or whey blend powders because it is in a more pure form.
GilesBathgat...

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Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 08:45
Yes a good quality whey protein powder is good for a low carb diet. For example check the macros of this powder http://www.maxiraw.com/wpiintensitynatural Per Serve: Protein 22.4g Carbohydrate 0.5g, Fat 0.25g

A constant (6 meals a day 3 of which could be shakes) protein intake is good to maintain lean mass (muscle) when loosing fat, and good to gain muscle mass when not on calorie deficit.

There is also a type of powder called a "Mass gainer" These are pointless you may as well eat your calories not drink them like Diablo360x points out. Avoid Mass gainers and High carb protein powders look for Whey Protein Isolate, or Whey Protein Concentrate. Also Don't bother with flavored protein powder, get natural powder and add flavdrops http://www.myprotein.com/uk/cats/flavouring-systems/liquid-flavouring then you don't get stuck with the same flavour every day.

Rpminto

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Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 11:53
Hello, my name is rpminto. I have used whey protin powders before many time. I find that they are great for a jump start on eating healthy, specially if you are not into eating in the mornings. Its a good way to get energy into your body and get your motab working for the day. However, I would not treat it like a meal replacement. What I do is after drinking one in the morning about 2 hrs later have a handful of some kind of trail mix, nuts or something along the lines of that. Then two hrs later you are ready for lunch. Samething two hrs after lunch handful of a snack then dinner, and a healthy snack . all in all I find using the whey protine helps. After I stopped this plan I saw my weight go up and platue out. So great reminder for me to go out and start again. . But use milk forsure, water will leave you hungry in mins and eating more then needed.
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Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 13:27
Also, if you are using whey P. and you are a gal. You will tone up, but the fm body is not made to be Ripped, So, you will gain muscel, however it take more cal to nurish muscel then Fat. that is another way to look at it. The stronger you are, the more Cal you burn at rest.
eKatherine

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Posted: 24 Nov 2012, 15:48
I recently read about a study that showed that using whey protein results in muscle mass gain and fat loss in comparable groups.

When I think I need protein, I eat more meat. Before using any whey product I would need to know that it was lactose-free, as I am lactose intolerant. I'd just as soon eat food.
GilesBathgat...

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Posted: 25 Nov 2012, 08:38
eKatherine any whey based product is unlikely completely lactose free. You can add a few drops of lactase to it and leave overnight, or you can buy vegan protein isolate powders extracted from Peas, Rice and Hemp.

Of course you can eat meat to get protein, or egg whites, nonfat milk, quinoa, beans and legumes. These digest more slowly and release the protein slowly, which is good, but they also are generally higher in carbs and with meat often higher in fat. It just depends how strict you want your diet to be.
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Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 19:38
homeriscool wrote:
Hi all, i know whey protein is a high protein powder when mixed with milk / water ect. Is it any good for a low carb diet if i was to get a low carb whey protein powder?


Yes, mix it with water. Get yourself Optimum Nutrition Gold Whey Standard which has 1G of sugar or 1 carbohydrate. Anyone can fight that "protein powder doesn't metabolize the same as actual protein food intake," but truth is protein is protein.
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Posted: 05 Dec 2012, 19:49
eKatherine wrote:
I recently read about a study that showed that using whey protein results in muscle mass gain and fat loss in comparable groups.

When I think I need protein, I eat more meat. Before using any whey product I would need to know that it was lactose-free, as I am lactose intolerant. I'd just as soon eat food.


Some old school rules never change. More muscle = more fat burned. When you get to a point where your body is actually increasing its muscle mass it needs more fuel and when dieting correctly it feeds on what your body has in it's fat storage. I've been to the point of cut up, 4-6% BF and I then started eating 3500-4250 calories a day at 60/40 carbs/protein and STILL couldn't gain any fat because my muscle ratio to fat was so high that it was simply just burining all of it.

You can go to dpsnutrition.net or bodybuilding.com and purchase whey protein isolate in a lactose free form. There are so many different brands available - the one type I was given when I was 19 tasted like s##t.
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Diablo360x

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Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 01:46
eKatherine should stay away from whey because she does not want to spike her insulin. It is very insulinogenic. (I know it doesn't matter, but she thinks it does.)
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eKatherine

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Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 11:36
I don't use factory extracted protein supplements, food analogs, or meal replacements. I eat the food I feel I need. But since I am lactose intolerant, whey protein is out. Since I am casein intolerant, that's out too.

And I'm not concerned at all about insulin spiking, even though a relevant article showed research into that. Unlike many Americans, I rarely eat sweets and don't eat lots of carbs due to being gluten-intolerant (and not eating fake gluten foods substitutes).

But most women don't have the physiological capability to pack on so many pounds of muscle that they can make a significant change in their body composition. So this won't crank up their metabolic rate resulting in weight loss without calorie restriction. They are different from men in that way.

If I have 5 more pounds of muscle due to the weight I lift than I would otherwise, that's a lot for a woman. At my weight that's going to result in maybe only a 3% difference in metabolic rate. That's only about 64 calories a day for me, less than an orange worth of calories.
Bryan Owen

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Posted: 06 Dec 2012, 20:35
I use whey protein powder to help with both losing weight and help with recovery after a workout. I started about a month ago. I don't use it daily. I may have a 4 0z shake once in awhile in the A.M to get enough protein for that day to help burn fat. But I have also put more fiber in my diet. I think protein is good as long as you don't go overboard with it. My nutrionalist recommended about 100G of protein a day to maintain what I am doing. So far its all working out for me. Eat better and work out. It will be the best thing you can do for any diet.
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eKatherine

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Posted: 07 Dec 2012, 08:45
If you don't do proper strength training, it doesn't matter what sort of protein you consume, or for the most part, how much. Your muscles won't grow if they don't need to to meet the physical demands you put on them.
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Posted: 09 Dec 2012, 15:06
I take my protein from eggs from white meat and fish also from Red kidney beans and Milk, chesse and other.

Yes is very important for the body to get protein, our body need protein.
Harrissonn

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Posted: 10 Dec 2012, 13:13
Whey protein is the bomb!! I love it!! I get the chocolate Carmel mix. I even put it in my oatmeal sometimes!



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