Artificial Sweeteners

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coconutprinc...

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Posted: 12 May 2012, 06:15
dangerrr wrote:
I searched "Truvia" and found: Is Truvia Or Stevia Safe & Natural?

Truvia is expensive for what it is. It's also hyper mfr'd in my opinion. It's made to look like sugar, but doesn't last as long as other stevia alternatives.

I like trader joe's organic stevia - without the filler. it's more expensive, & looks small, but all it takes is a tiny sea-monkey sized scoop to sweeten a LARGE cuppa. I had a jar last for MONTHS. Just little scoops of stevia powder, straight up, organic.

peace & love, - d


Thanks so much!
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 12 May 2012, 06:16
Losin25 wrote:
I use a liquid stevia from a health food store. It is true stevia leaf extract. Wonderful stuff. Also, Agave nectar has one of the lowest glycemic indexes of all the sweeteners with calories. you won't get a blood sugar spike. I avoid all artificial sweeteners, cane and corn sugar. All of those are highly manufactured and not good for you at all.


I'm going to look into the Agave nectar, thanks!
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 12 May 2012, 06:17
Cthulhu wrote:
I hold a minority opinion that honey is great in coffee with just a hint of real cream. The way cream explodes in coffee tells me it's a good combination.


The thing with me is I'd have to use alot of hunny to get it to the sweetness I like, which means lots of calories. My hubby and I are beekeepers, so we have raw natural honey which is sooo good, but still has calories.
Dimoetes

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Posted: 12 May 2012, 08:51
Every artificial sweetener I have tried in the past has always tasted strange - there is a subtle difference between them and real sugar.

I now don't add any artificial sweetener to anything I eat and I don't put sugar in tea or coffee. The latter came about due to being a little disorganised because when I started at my current workplace we had a tea and coffee club but no other members took sugar so if I wanted any I would have to bring my own in. I didn't remember to do so for so long I got accustomed to the taste without the sugar.
Pookie1963

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Posted: 12 May 2012, 10:01
I also find that real sugar makes me crave more sugar and overeat or cheat, so I try to avoid it. On the occasion that I can't avoid it I eat as little as possible. Same with alcohol, one drink and I tend to make terrible choices, food-wise. I am realizing that sugar does that to me too. I have never been a fan of artificial sweetners, but how do I get my hubby off of them? He drinks gallons of diet cola per week, and that frightens me. He is diabetic so he doesn't have a choice between diet and regular sugar drinks, but I can't seem to get him to understand how horrible that is for his body and his diabetes. I hate to be a nag Smile but after all the literature I have provided and he won't listen, I have about given up!
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Cthulhu

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Posted: 12 May 2012, 12:27
coconutprincess wrote:
Cthulhu wrote:
I hold a minority opinion that honey is great in coffee with just a hint of real cream. The way cream explodes in coffee tells me it's a good combination.


The thing with me is I'd have to use alot of hunny to get it to the sweetness I like, which means lots of calories. My hubby and I are beekeepers, so we have raw natural honey which is sooo good, but still has calories.

Wow, if you raise your own honey, that's one thing I'd seriously consider keeping in your daily calories.

Another Alternative is Xylitol which is natural, healthy, and reduces the calorie load by 40%. You can get it at health food stores and Amazon.

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Ingria

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Posted: 12 May 2012, 14:05
Wow, you have your own raw honey! I want to be your friend Smile This is all you need for health and happiness, forget about other sweeteners and calories. I come from a family that made living by making and selling honey, though it was several generations ago. But I still was brought up with a strong belief that raw, organic honey is an elixir of life (though, yes, used in moderation as any other good staff).

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coconutprinc...

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Posted: 12 May 2012, 15:29
Ingria wrote:
Wow, you have your own raw honey! I want to be your friend Smile This is all you need for health and happiness, forget about other sweeteners and calories. I come from a family that made living by making and selling honey, though it was several generations ago. But I still was brought up with a strong belief that raw, organic honey is an elixir of life (though, yes, used in moderation as any other good staff).



This is very true! We can be friends to Smile
Diablo360x

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Posted: 13 May 2012, 06:38
Hoser wrote:
Sugar is a toxin too, but it's at least a known quantity.


Please link me to a peer reviewed scientific study backing this claim. Until then I will disregard this as fear mongering hogwash. If this were true I would be dead as sugar is a big part of my diet.
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Nimm

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Posted: 13 May 2012, 06:41
How about if we just cut to the chase and copy/paste the Lustig/Aragon debate on fructose, since that's what it will come down to anyway?
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 13 May 2012, 12:29
I have always thought of sugar as a natural substance? Even though we have to be careful not to use alot of it, I think that having sugar is better than a sweetener, as far as health and safety.

On another note, I purchased a nice blend of Starbucks coffee grinds. I'm going to try to drink it black with sugar at first, and then slowly start taking the sugar away.
Katred12

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Posted: 13 May 2012, 13:05
My favorite coffee is Kirkland in the can for home. Not too expensive and I drink it black. It's tasty, people who come to my home say wow this is good coffee, and ask what kind. I drink diet soda- and have for all my life. I've been over weight, thin, a long distance cyclist, and now I'm overweight again, and it's time to bite the bullet and get thin again. I've heard over the years all manor of things about artificial sweeteners, from they cause cancer to they're neuro toxins. I think you have to cut through the hype and decide for yourself. Nimm- thanks for that- just found the Aragon blog. I like debate especially on controversial views and claims. Diablo30x sugar is a sort of toxin to many people, they get just as addicted to it as others do to alcohol. I stopped eating fructose after watching Lustig's Youtube video about a year back. Not that I gained this weight because of fructose- that happened because I stopped most exercise and watching what I eat. I think the statement that we should avoid processed foods is true. Stopping eating fructose was good for me, I work out but I still don't burn enough carbs to eat that much of it. But, I am not hungry now when dieting. I get full. The last few years when I tried I was hungry all the time on the same or more amount of calories I eat now. If it's in my head I don't care, I'm doing great. Same goes for sugar and any refined carbs. And I'm overweight now so my metabolism needs much tweaking.. When I was in shape I never did do well with carbs, even 25 years ago when they would tell you to carb load, it would kill me when I had a 80 mile ride the next day, I did much better if I ate a boatload of protein and fats. The media does the fear mongering with fats too.

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GWMcolorado

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Posted: 13 May 2012, 13:47
This is (and I am NOT making the name up) the best coffee I ever had: "Three-peckered Billy Goat" by a company in Alaska called "Raven's Brew Coffee. You can drink it black even if you've used cream and sugar your whole life. Even my sister who doesn't drink coffee enjoyed it enough to order her own.

TPBG
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 13 May 2012, 13:54
GWMcolorado wrote:
This is (and I am NOT making the name up) the best coffee I ever had: "Three-peckered Billy Goat" by a company in Alaska called "Raven's Brew Coffee. You can drink it black even if you've used cream and sugar your whole life. Even my sister who doesn't drink coffee enjoyed it enough to order her own.

TPBG


Wow... lol

Which roast do you drink?
GWMcolorado

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Posted: 13 May 2012, 14:20
Currently I'm on Folgers decaf (meh). I'm doing the Atkins Induction phase for the next couple weeks and they recommend staying off the caffeine. Honestly I'm missing my typical four cups of regular coffee in the morning more than my last drink of alcohol. I use heavy cream and Splenda to sweeten it. When I go back to regular coffee I like to browse the supermarket blends. They often have interesting flavor added blends. I found one that was Butterscotch flavored. I thought to myself, "gross, but I bet this will keep my roommates from drinking it". WRONG they (and I) loved it Razz
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 13 May 2012, 16:49
GWMcolorado wrote:
Currently I'm on Folgers decaf (meh). I'm doing the Atkins Induction phase for the next couple weeks and they recommend staying off the caffeine. Honestly I'm missing my typical four cups of regular coffee in the morning more than my last drink of alcohol. I use heavy cream and Splenda to sweeten it. When I go back to regular coffee I like to browse the supermarket blends. They often have interesting flavor added blends. I found one that was Butterscotch flavored. I thought to myself, "gross, but I bet this will keep my roommates from drinking it". WRONG they (and I) loved it Razz


I saw one today that was Butterscotch flavored Smile I'd like to try the vanilla-hazelnut one to.
Garydent21

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Posted: 17 May 2012, 18:41
My doctors have told me to avoid ALL artificial sweeteners as they are hard for the kidneys to process. I also have switched to stevia.
Jae45

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Posted: 19 May 2012, 08:51
If you have to add so much sugar to your coffee you must not care for the flavor.. why drink it at all?

Try drinking it without sugar for a week or so, maybe you'll grow to like it without sugar.
lovingmomma

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Posted: 19 May 2012, 09:53
Asparteme is awful stuff, it causes many issues, my sister studied it in gradschool, and there are a lot of links to it and things like alshymers and many other things. The thing about stevia is the additives they put in it. If you can get it in its pure form it isn't so bad. White sugar is really processed as well. Some people believe xyletol (sugar alcohol) is a better option because the body doesn't process it the same way as sugar, since it is an alcohol it processes it that way. A lot of people question agave nectar as well, comparing it with high fructose corn syrup. From the research I have done I think the pure stevia is the best, I can't find it in stores here, but you can get it online. Pure stevia is just directly from the stevia plant, you can also grow your own, which would be ideal if you ask me, then you know exactly what is in it. I believe you just grow it, dry it, then mash it and it takes very little to sweeten things. But do your own research, they all have thir ups and downs.


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coconutprinc...

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Posted: 19 May 2012, 16:27
Jae45 wrote:
If you have to add so much sugar to your coffee you must not care for the flavor.. why drink it at all?

Try drinking it without sugar for a week or so, maybe you'll grow to like it without sugar.


Coffee suppresses my hunger in the morning and wakes me up. I don't eat until I've had my coffee and it helps me to stay within my calories to a degree because I am up early, like 5ish so if I begin eating at 5:00, I'll never make it to 9:00pm on 1600 calories lol



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