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coconutprinc...

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 06:17
I have heard that aspartame is really bad for you and Splenda was the alternative, but now I am hearing that of Splenda. I also heard that Stevia can be bad for you to and you can only have so much of it per day. I'm trying to find a low cal or no cal way of sweetening my coffee, but I don't know what to use. Right now I'm using sugar, which is natural, but it's high in calories.

Does anyone have an info on sweeteners?
Pookie1963

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 08:39
I don't have any artificial sweeteners in my diet at all, since discovering that they were the cause of my migraines. I use pure cane sugar on the rare occasion, but have heard from a dietician friend for the last 25+ years that they are VERY bad for your body. It isn't easy wening off them but so glad I did!
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Eringiffin

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 08:47
Sugar is no picnic, either. I have found that it increases my appetite and gives me withdrawal symptoms when I try to cut back on it. I've gone cold turkey on sugar and I feel a lot better now that the headaches and shakiness are passed. Working on cutting out coffee but when I do drink it, I either drink it black or put like, a 1/4 of a packet of Sweet N' Lo in it. It's sweeter than Splenda so I can get away with using less. I haven't experienced the same symptoms as Pookie1963, but it could be a matter of threshholds. Once your body builds up a certain amount of something, it can manifest symptoms that weren't present before that point. I'm not saying artificial sweetners are harmless, just that sugar isn't the answer, either.
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 11:03
Pookie1963 wrote:
but have heard from a dietician friend for the last 25+ years that they are VERY bad for your body.


That's what I'm thinking!
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 11:05
Eringiffin wrote:
Working on cutting out coffee but when I do drink it, I either drink it black or put like, a 1/4 of a packet of Sweet N' Lo in it.


That's what I think I will have to do, train myself to like it with less sugar/milk and cut back.
Ingria

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 11:15
Try to experiment with different blends of coffee. Good quality arabica coffee is not bitter at all like most of the coffee sold in supermarkets. Good coffee is like good wine, you don't spoil it with milk and sugar, you sip it to feel the taste of coffee itself. It is more pricey, but is not that expensive. Same is true for tea. So for just a little bit more money you can enjoy healthy drink that is only about 1-2 cal, if it is without milk or sugar. And believe me, in a month you won't be able to drink it with sugar, it is just a matter of retraining your taste buds. We are all creatures of habits, it takes about 3 weeks to rewire your brain and establish a new habit.
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coconutprinc...

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 11:21
Ingria wrote:
Try to experiment with different blends of coffee. Good quality arabica coffee is not bitter at all like most of the coffee sold in supermarkets. Good coffee is like good wine, you don't spoil it with milk and sugar, you sip it to feel the taste of coffee itself. It is more pricey, but is not that expensive. Same is true for tea. So for just a little bit more money you can enjoy healthy drink that is only about 1-2 cal, if it is without milk or sugar. And believe me, in a month you won't be able to drink it with sugar, it is just a matter of retraining your taste buds. We are all creatures of habits, it takes about 3 weeks to rewire your brain and establish a new habit.


You are right! My hubby and I use to buy arabica coffee beans and grind them fresh every morning... I guess we got cheap lol They have such an amazing taste... I am going to get those beans again, thanks so much Smile
Hoser

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 11:39
Sugar is not that high in calories if it's being used in moderation. One teaspoon of sugar is only fifteen calories. If you're doing that once a day, it's pretty much no factor.
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 13:22
Hoser wrote:
Sugar is not that high in calories if it's being used in moderation. One teaspoon of sugar is only fifteen calories. If you're doing that once a day, it's pretty much no factor.


I use 3 tsp in each cup and I have 2 cups Smile That is how sweet I like it so I have to train myself to like it with less.
fatoldlady

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 13:54
I use sugar when I want to sweeten something. I never could get use to the chemical taste of atrificial sweeteners. Each one comes out as the best ever and then slowly the studies come out showing various negative side effects of using it. I also avoid anything that is advertised as sugar free, fat free or diet. I prefer to limit the amount of fat and sugar I eat rather than replace it with chemicals.
Hoser

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 14:37
Personally, I have no interest in filling my body with nasty chemicals. Artificial sweeteners are huge biological wildcards-- I treat them all as though they were toxic, and avoid them as much as possible.

Sugar is a toxin too, but it's at least a known quantity.
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Posted: 11 May 2012, 15:02
I've been off diet soda for about two weeks now. I feel noticeably better, but have to admit there may be some placebo effect to it. Whether the stuff is bad for you or not, is debatable, thought my opinion is that it probably is bad. Why not err on the side of caution? I have been drinking nothing but water, except for two small bottles of Gatorade while bike riding.
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Eringiffin

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 15:03
I tend to agree with Hoser and fatoldlady. Manufacturers have gotten a little too creative with their chemistry and it can backfire. Last I heard you have to take in massive amounts of the stuff before it starts to have a negative effect. Of course, combined with other toxins like pesticides, environmental pollution, and genetically altered produce, I guess it adds up. I'm just saying, if we are splitting hairs on the relative dangers of sweeteners, you'd probably be better off to worry more about eating organically grown produce. My ultimate goal is to avoid artificial sweeteners and sugar both but in desperate moments while I am trying to lose weight, I'll reach for the no calorie option.
coconutprinc...

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 15:28
fatoldlady wrote:
I also avoid anything that is advertised as sugar free, fat free or diet. I prefer to limit the amount of fat and sugar I eat rather than replace it with chemicals.


This is something I have been doing to.
dangerrr

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 15:42
artificial sweeteners turn to FORMALDEHYDE as they metabolize. that's right. they turn to death poison. fabulous.

the chemists who developed the artificial sweeteners won't even touch the stuff. it took 8 times for aspartame to be approved by the FDA, even then only for dry goods. even the National Soft Drink Assn didn't want to allow the stuff in their products. (Freedman, R. and Barnouin. Skinny Bitch. Philadelphia: Running Press, 2005. pp. 32-38. )
Formaldehyde Poisoning from Aspartame
Aspartame / NutraSweet Toxicity Summary
THE BITTER TRUTH ABOUT ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS

one alternative is raw/organic agave nectar. it has a low-glycemic index, and is low cal. ima stevia grrrl myself, but if you're against it, try agave.

cheers - d
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dangerrr

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 15:59
I searched "Truvia" and found: Is Truvia Or Stevia Safe & Natural?

Truvia is expensive for what it is. It's also hyper mfr'd in my opinion. It's made to look like sugar, but doesn't last as long as other stevia alternatives.

I like trader joe's organic stevia - without the filler. it's more expensive, & looks small, but all it takes is a tiny sea-monkey sized scoop to sweeten a LARGE cuppa. I had a jar last for MONTHS. Just little scoops of stevia powder, straight up, organic.

peace & love, - d
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Losin25

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 16:28
I use a liquid stevia from a health food store. It is true stevia leaf extract. Wonderful stuff. Also, Agave nectar has one of the lowest glycemic indexes of all the sweeteners with calories. you won't get a blood sugar spike. I avoid all artificial sweeteners, cane and corn sugar. All of those are highly manufactured and not good for you at all.
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Posted: 11 May 2012, 16:31
I hold a minority opinion that honey is great in coffee with just a hint of real cream. The way cream explodes in coffee tells me it's a good combination.

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dangerrr

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Posted: 11 May 2012, 19:24
hunny is lovely in coffee
"Eat [REAL] food, mostly plants, not too much." - Michael Pollan, NY Times food writer

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coconutprinc...

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Posted: 12 May 2012, 06:14
dangerrr wrote:
artificial sweeteners turn to FORMALDEHYDE as they metabolize. that's right. they turn to death poison. fabulous.

the chemists who developed the artificial sweeteners won't even touch the stuff. it took 8 times for aspartame to be approved by the FDA, even then only for dry goods. even the National Soft Drink Assn didn't want to allow the stuff in their products. (Freedman, R. and Barnouin. Skinny Bitch. Philadelphia: Running Press, 2005. pp. 32-38. )
Formaldehyde Poisoning from Aspartame
Aspartame / NutraSweet Toxicity Summary
THE BITTER TRUTH ABOUT ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS

one alternative is raw/organic agave nectar. it has a low-glycemic index, and is low cal. ima stevia grrrl myself, but if you're against it, try agave.

cheers - d


FORMALDEHYDE ?!?! I am sooo glad I don't eat/drink that stuff!



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