Changed over to the Keto Diet

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Karisue73

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Posted: 05 May 2012, 15:08
FOr my whole likfe I have been conditioned to eating low-calorie, low-fat.....and have been a perpetual dieter since I was about 25. At 39 now, I thought I would try something completely different seeing that the last howevermanyso years.....I have not had any great, maintained success with weight loss. Paired up with working out at the gym almost every day, doing interval training..you would think I would weight about 100 lbs....SOAKING WET! This, however......has not been the case. I have yo-yo'ed, plateaued, gained....it has been extremely frustrating and depressing.

After doing much reading and chatting up my neighbor....and hearing the results her daughter ( who is my age) has been experiencing.....I thought I would give it a try. I went shopping. I bought more meat then I ever had before in my typical shopping trips, loaded up on eggs, real butter, cream, bacon....I was actually getting a it queasy thinking that in just a few hours, I would be invading my system with things it had not had in a very long time, and feared getting deathly ill in the process.

I weighed myself on Sunday. I was 264. I weighed again on Monday. 263?? Today I weighed....and I am down to 260!!!!!! I am not kidding. Never in my wildest dreams, did I ever think that eating meat, cream, butters..would result in weight LOSS??? But, after educating myself...it makes complete sense. AND, it totally explains why for me? Eating low fat, fat free, butter substitutes, etc....DID NOT WORK! By ridding my system of the sugars which the body uses as a fuel source, my body would now start using the fat! I had absolutely NOTHING to lose but weight from trying this. I am truly amazed with what is happening, what I am eating, and the energy levels that I am sustaining. I did the 2 day *load*...actually about a day and a half.....I couldn't take the carb overload. I am not used to eating a lot of them as it is, and figuring that factor in, I did not feel it to be imperative.

I am now enjoying eggs, bacon, chicken WITH the skin, and there are so many recipes I am overly excited to try. What makes me even happier, is that we as a family, can actually enjoy meals together......not cooking 2 separate meals because I could not have *normal* food. My husband and daughter are ecstatic to now see LOADS of meats in the fridge and freezer.

I would highly recommend to those out there that have battled relentlessly, year after year to lose weight, to give the Keto Diet a try. Do your reading, educate yourself....DEFINITELY request the guidance of your PCP...and drink as much water as you possibly can. It flushes your liver from what could potentially be a protein overload. I just can't say enough about this diet.

I will post again next week after I log in my weight.

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glaenzchen

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Posted: 05 May 2012, 17:03
Hey, wish you good luke with your keto! Im on it right now too. For me the biggest deal with the Keto is the problem eating out of home. But I managed it with meatbals & suggarfree muffins. So I can stay to the plan. Do you feel it whene you fall back into the keto after a loading day? This is my second Keto and I thought I made a mistake cuz I never fellt something. I was just a little bit messed up and a lilbit tetchy.But I droped every week a Kilo.

Im a bit jalous that your not missing the carbs. Im always counting the days until the next reload day. It is realy hard for me to stay clear during the week and realy hard to have a "clean" reload. So I think youll see great results. Dont be upset if your weight goes up after the refeed. Youll lose the water in a few days. But you maight allready know this.


Go 4 it Smile *thumb up*
paperiniko

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Posted: 06 May 2012, 02:11
rapid initial weight loss with low carbs diets is not exceptional and is due mainly to water loss not fat loss, since you are depleting the glycogen reserves in your muscles and loosing all the water associated with it, of course as soon as you resume a normal diet that water will come back.
Fat loss will happen if you keep a consistent deficit no matter whether you eat low carbs or low proteins. Personally I tend to think a balanced diet is healthier but to each his own , if the low carbs works better for you long term than that is definetly a better option than staying overweight, good luck.
Marlboro Man

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Posted: 06 May 2012, 06:45
paperiniko wrote:

Fat loss will happen if you keep a consistent deficit no matter whether you eat low carbs or low proteins. Personally I tend to think a balanced diet is healthier but to each his own , if the low carbs works better for you long term than that is definetly a better option than staying overweight, good luck.

yup.

sorry to hear you decided to go on a keto diet with unnecessary restrictions on what you can and cannot eat
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DLynneGarner

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Posted: 06 May 2012, 09:54
paperiniko wrote:
Personally I tend to think a balanced diet is healthier but to each his own , if the low carbs works better for you long term than that is definetly a better option than staying overweight, good luck.


He is right about the water weight, but that's also true for any lowcalorie diet in the beginning too. And he is free to think what he likes, but he's wrong about a "balanced" diet. Having a "balanced" diet is highly overrated by "authorities", and misunderstood by most people. A "balanced" diet based on consuming carbohydrates is in fact a cultural and religous idea, not based on science. To say we must have equal proportional amounts of carbs, fats and protiens to have a healthy diet it false. It is absolutely possible to maintain a good blood sugar level in a ketogenic state, without eating any carbohydrates at all. I'm not suggesting that, I love vegatables, but it is true according to science.

(Recommended reading: The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living by Valek and Phinney)

Congratulations Karisue on choosing an alternative to low calorie dieting!! No more going hungry! Congratulations on getting back into your family too. I honestly believe my yoyo lowcal dieting for so many years has in fact caused imbalance and weight problems in my children and husband. Atkins has solved the weight issue for my husband, and both of my now grown children lost weight on Atkins. It's the only way of eating that we can share without someone feeling deprived. I understand you're not on Atkins, but another form of a ketogenic weightloss program. I pray for your success! Enjoy your adventure in eating!
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paperiniko

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Posted: 06 May 2012, 10:36
No in fact that statement is inaccurate. The fast initial weight loss due to water loss is due to the glycogen depletion effect of low carbs diets. That is the only reason they seem to be faster than other diet approaches , in facts all serious studies have shown that other than the water loss effect there is no difference long term in terms of fat loss between a low carb and a medium carb diet if the total calories are the same.
On the contrary there is plenty of studies that document the possible adverse effect of diets too rich in animal proteins, particularly those coming from red meats.
By balanced I did not imply that there need to be equal amount of macronutrients but only that the deficit should not come exclusively at the expense of one of them.
IMHO most of the literature that demonizes carbs has little scientific backing, the facts tell a different story that is that the populations that have the highest longevity and lowest cancer,diabetes and heart disease rates do eat a balanced diet rich in complex carbs and low in animal proteins and saturated fats.

In the end again the benefit of fat loss at least in the short term are superior to the risk of an unbalanced diet like the low-carbs ones so if somebody feels that it is helpful and sustainable then it is better than status quo.
DLynneGarner

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Posted: 06 May 2012, 11:40
I've been on dozens of low calorie diets and "accurate" or not I ALWAYS experienced temporary water weight losses in the beginning. If glycogen depletion is the explanation, then so be it.

"Balance" in eating is a cultural concept and a cliched guilt hammer used to beat dieters with, especially those burdened with also trying to feed children and teach their children how to eat.

Having "balanced" nutrition does not equal eating carbohydrates.

IMHO most of the literature demonizing low carb diets have little scientific backing.

I second Karisue's recommendation to try doing something different than low calorie.
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fatoldlady

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Posted: 06 May 2012, 12:36
Oh the great low carb versus low cal debate again.
glaenzchen

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Posted: 09 May 2012, 03:24
paperiniko wrote:
rapid initial weight loss with low carbs diets is not exceptional and is due mainly to water loss not fat loss, since you are depleting the glycogen reserves in your muscles and loosing all the water associated with it, of course as soon as you resume a normal diet that water will come back.
Fat loss will happen if you keep a consistent deficit no matter whether you eat low carbs or low proteins. Personally I tend to think a balanced diet is healthier but to each his own , if the low carbs works better for you long term than that is definetly a better option than staying overweight, good luck.



yes but the water loss is just about 2-4 Pound. Than you ll lose fat like in every normal diet.

low protein? whats that bulls##t for? nothin is more important than protein why the hell should you turn them down.

low carbs! has the major advance that your insulin doesnt explode so the fatcells arnt blocked an can be used to produce energy (which makes you losing fat).
above all carbs make you hungry after your insulin got down.
The same amount of kcal from fat will you make less hungry than the amount form carbs. Try it!
glaenzchen

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Posted: 09 May 2012, 03:29
fatoldlady wrote:
Oh the great low carb versus low cal debate again.


there is no debat necessary! cuz you cant compare them.
Its like saying: "At night its colder than outside."

To lose Fat it is necessary to get a caldeficit. That makes you burn fat.

To get this deficit you can go low carb or low fat.

Who dont know that shoudnt be diating at all. Cuz even if you lose fat,anyhow that will be possible o.O, it will come back again, for sure



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