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brettashton1...

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Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 05:33
I have a very bad habit that is gross and very shameful. I chew junk food and spit it out, I know its horrid to even think about. I think this is why I havent been able to lose weight. some days I dont even want to do it, but other days I will have binge sessions chewing a whole pack of oreos! I do not know how to stop. This disorder does not have a lot of research yet, any ideas?
NCNOLE

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Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 07:46
I would definitely say that is a binge eating disorder and I'm sure you are not alone in not actually swallowing the food. The thing you have to keep in mind, is that you are absorbing the calories even though you spit it out. Chewing breaks down the food and that will get it into your system. If you want help, then I would suggest a therapist. Otherwise, journal when you feel like binging or after a binge. That way you can get an idea of why and when this happens. When you get the urge, try to distract yourself. Find something to do. Call someone. Don't buy trigger foods - avoid the foods that cause you to binge until you feel you have control over the situation.

Good luck to you.
princessanne...

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Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 08:09
I personally feel I have been borderline for having disordered eating like you have... you are not alone!! I'm kind of an emotional/impulse overeater. It sounds like you really need to seek guidance from a therapist. Here is advice that helped me:

-You have to TRUST yourself to stay in control.. if you can't trust yourself who else can you trust?!
-Am I really hungry? What is it I really want? A nap, shower, social conversation with a friend, etc.
-Also I find if I think about food all the time, I feel hungrier and overeat.. DISTRACT yourself
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LaraStar

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Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 09:15
It's something models do!
Log everything you chew as if you were eating it. Plan healthy filling meals and regular snacks and allow yourself Oreos as a treat as long as it is within your RDI. If you can't stop your unhealthy habit, you should seek professional help.

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green...

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Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 09:42
Would it help to plan in your calorie budget an oreo (or whatever your allowance will permit), and have this as a reward for sticking to the rest of your goals? Swallow, no guilt, no shame, because you accomplished something else that was also important. For me, I often find that a small amount of the thing I had been craving, after I've had it, is enough. If this is not true for you, maybe you could allow yourself to have the one cookie (or whatever) and figure out a time limit that you have to wait to eat the next, like 10 minutes. See if you still need the second. Maybe part of what's happening is from a "zero-tolerance" way of looking at things.
wishing you luck,
green sharpie
mikefarinha

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Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 10:14
It could be that you're over producing insulin. You don't need to eat sugar or carbohydrates to cause an insulin response. Smelling sweet food can cause an insulin response and I'm sure that chewing sweets will send your body an even bigger signal to prepare for a large influx of sugar by releasing a large amount of insulin. Once a lot of insulin is in your system the damage is done. It doesn't matter if you swallow or not. It can take hours for your insulin to clear out and all the while you have knocked your body out of fat burning mode and into fat growing mode, fat growing mode means that the insulin is feeding your fat cells instead of your body cells. This you'll start to get hungry again in short order.

This is why calorie restriction diets are so unhealthy. Hunger is your body telling you it needs nutrients... if you tease your body you'll ultimately fail... your body will always win by forcing you to binge. If you eat foods that don't cause insulin spikes your body will always be satisfied.

Here is a short video that explains the basics of insulin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE

-Mike
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Razzle_n_daz...

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Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 11:21
I use to do this. Its a way in the past I found to lose unwanted weight, and it is very shameful & embarrassing. The worst effects I have heard of, is that it will make your face puffy somehow...something to do with the saliva being produced. The only way you can stop is to slowly wean your self off of it. When your use to having binges everyday, lower yourself to a few times a week...until you gain control. Believe me it won't be cured over night, but when you do conquer this it will leave you with a better sense of being in control & happiness.




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russellb97

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Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 11:17
green sharpie wrote:
Would it help to plan in your calorie budget an oreo (or whatever your allowance will permit), and have this as a reward for sticking to the rest of your goals? Swallow, no guilt, no shame, because you accomplished something else that was also important. For me, I often find that a small amount of the thing I had been craving, after I've had it, is enough. If this is not true for you, maybe you could allow yourself to have the one cookie (or whatever) and figure out a time limit that you have to wait to eat the next, like 10 minutes. See if you still need the second. Maybe part of what's happening is from a "zero-tolerance" way of looking at things.
wishing you luck,
green sharpie


I agree with this post.
I've done this many times in the past. Sometimes I plan it and sometimes I couldn't stop my self from grabbing the food but once i started chewing I felt horrible so I spit it out.

Now that I have my Spike Days, where I eat whatever I want guilt free, I have stopped doing this. I do think that dieting, strictly, is almost like a type of torture we put ourselves through. The sad thing is, it's not necessary. You can eat junk food and still lose weight, trust me.
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jaime30024

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Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 11:58
I have done it too...I think wow this would really be good and pick it up and take a bite and then in the midst of chewing it I think "this is not worth it nor does it taste that great" and I spit it out. I think you have some good suggestions above, and glad that you had the strength to share this here. Good luck to you....I think the first step in stopping it is revealing it (which you have done).
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brettashton1...

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Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 15:21
Thanks so much for all your support! I will def try these tips to find I can use and stick with. I think that is started has many of you said I begin to eat something and decided to spit it out and thought wow! I can do that with all food, then it just took off!
reti856

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Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 15:38
If this is someting that's consistently making you feel ashamed, it may be time to talk to a therapist and/or doctor for a bit of guidance, as others have said. Feeling "gross" and "shameful" to yourself like you describe sounds really painful. These are words you hear a lot in eating disorder therapy. Talking about it in this anonymous FatSecret space is a good first step, but if you let a secretive cycle of reward, self-punsihment and shame go on in your everyday life, it could worsen.

You may want to try out an eating disorder group therapy session if they are available in your area and just listen in for a session. You may find it helpful to gain insight into whatever you are trying to work out through your binges. There you can just listen to a range of people at various stagenes of wellness/illness with a range of symptoms and hear about the feelings operating behind the odd food behaviors we can exhibit. You don't have to pick a disorder or self-diagnose to benefit from it.

People struggling with eating disorders have a variety of compulsive eating habits. Often there are traumas and/or messed up relationships that we're not ready to deal with fueling our self-abusive eating, but sometimes we just don't know why this is happening. It's rarely as simply as "I have anorexia. I don't eat." or "I have bulimia. I binge and purge." for folks. There are blends, grey areas and people on the borderline that are harder to diagnonse that may benefit from treatment. "Eating disorder not otherwise specified" or EDNOS is more commonly studied and treated now than it was even just ten years ago.

You do not have to fit a neat diagnosis - even something open like EDNOS - to deserve or benefit from a little one-on-one talk with someone knowledgable whom you can trust - whether it's your medical doctor, a counselor/therapist or a nutritionist.
snugles

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Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 17:17
I just want to give you a big pat on the back for taking a step in the right direction. Its not easy to step up and say this is what i do and i need help.
Runesinger

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Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 17:59
I used to spit out food sometimes. It was a precursor to full-blown anorexia nervosa. Pretty soon, it was difficult for me to swallow any food. It would gag me. I would try to nip this in the bud to avoid actual anorexia.

As a recovering anorexic, I can tell you, it's not the price you want to pay to lose weight loss. It comes with a whole load of mental baggage.

If you can't kick this impulse, I would consult a professional who specializes in eating disorders. You might want to find out if there's an anorexic or eating disorder support group in your area right away. They can assist you in breaking this habit.

And don't feel ashamed. Many people are afflicted with anorexia and suffer similarly. Overcoming your feelings of shame is one of the steps you need to recover.
KK89

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Posted: 15 Nov 2011, 01:18
The more weight I lose the more afraid I am to eat junk food. Last week I binged and ate a cheese burger and and fries smothered in cheese and gravy (at a mall food court). Then I added the items to my calorie counter..... realized that I had just consumed more calories than I normally eat in a day... in 20min. I felt sick to my stomach, ashamed and then I ran to the bathroom and involuntarily threw up, everything.


Bingeing and purging intentionally or not could easily be a precurser to an eating disorder. We must all be very careful with our relationships with food. It is a fine balance.
Keisha


The Difference between WANT and NEED is self control.
Its not about the food I cannot have, Its about the body I will not have if I eat that food.
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brettashton1...

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Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 17:49
This is so weird to me because I have always had so much will power and determination. I Lost 30 pounds a year ago and have gained it all back, and i believe this is the reason.Every morning I work out and think I will begin a new day and start over leaving that habit behind. Usually I do good all day until I find a moment alone .
reti856

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Posted: 17 Nov 2011, 10:26
Could you be restricting your diet a bit too much and that's why your body feels compelled to do this?
brettashton1...

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Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 07:28
I am happy to report that the Lord gave me strength and I did not chew and spit at all yesterday! Going one whole day is a huge accomplishment for me, I know he will make me stronger today!
reti856

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Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 11:21
Great news!



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