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Shae206

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 14:04
Oh I haven't given up ice cream! Lol I looooove our ice cream!! Lol Its the one thing I'm like, soy... no lol I would love it is rbST was illegal in WA. It should be everywhere, but I don't know that it is unless its something that's changed over the last few months? At this point I am pretty much off of straight dairy products reguardless, my body won't accept them anymore... if you know what I mean. LoL apparently that happens when you quit eating them for a while.

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Shae206

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 14:06
I never liked the taste of milk anyways, ever. So it wasn't hard to start enjoying soymilk :]

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Canajun

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 14:09
Shae, I did that when I was younger, too. Not the vegetarian thing but jumping on board with "healthy" eating. I think I had at least three snacks of granola cereal and soy milk (there was only full fat back then) and a couple of carob bars daily, and then wondered why I was gaining weight.

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obakemono

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 14:10
Shae206 - "I have found that I get criticized for being a half assed vegetarian, who dabbles in vegan products."

People are missing the point when they criticize others about how much of a vegetarian they are. Is there a 'Best Vegetarian/Vegan' award that I'm unaware of?

I've been a vegan for 21 years now, and one thing I've taken to heart and strongly believe is that ANY action, be it not eating meat even for one day a week, is to be celebrated.

Nit-picking and looking for holes in one's vegetarian lifestyle is the action of someone who thinks "I'll show them...they're WRONG - I'll find their weak spot and be victorious!" What that victory is, I'll never know.

It's the little things we do in this life that mean the most. Don't let people with boxed in minds get you down.

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Shae206

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 14:21
obakemono wrote:
Shae206 - "I have found that I get criticized for being a half assed vegetarian, who dabbles in vegan products."

People are missing the point when they criticize others about how much of a vegetarian they are. Is there a 'Best Vegetarian/Vegan' award that I'm unaware of?

I've been a vegan for 21 years now, and one thing I've taken to heart and strongly believe is that ANY action, be it not eating meat even for one day a week, is to be celebrated.

Nit-picking and looking for holes in one's vegetarian lifestyle is the action of someone who thinks "I'll show them...they're WRONG - I'll find their weak spot and be victorious!" What that victory is, I'll never know.

It's the little things we do in this life that mean the most. Don't let people with boxed in minds get you down.

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I agree :] Thank you for you words! I too believe that any action to remove it from your diet should be celebrated :] my Boyfriend ate meat the first 2 years we were together, rarly red meat, mainly chicken, and he decided january 1st he wasn't going to eat meat any more, and he has done a great job, not even once. :] I am so proud of him and glad that I can help him with finding a healthy way to be a vegetarian and not go thru all the years of not knowing like I did. AND Amazing job being vegan for 21 years!! Something to be very proud of in my opinion. That is my 5 year goal, to be completly vegan. I have wanted to for so long, I just know that I have A LOT more to find out about it before I make that jump. :] Shows a lot of will power!

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Shae206

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 14:44
Canajun wrote:
Shae, I did that when I was younger, too. Not the vegetarian thing but jumping on board with "healthy" eating. I think I had at least three snacks of granola cereal and soy milk (there was only full fat back then) and a couple of carob bars daily, and then wondered why I was gaining weight.

Knowledge is power! Wink


I know what you mean hun, I was eating granola and soymilk for snacks too after I got "healthy" not realizing that honey almond granola is pretty high calorie still. Needless to say, I have made my way over to a nice bowl of oatmeal in the mornings :] Knowledge is power Wink !!

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obakemono

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 16:09
Shae206 - It was less willpower, and more totally freaking out when I found out what REALLY happens behind the closed doors of an abattoir. After a few years of being hardcore in my attitudes, I've mellowed out quite a bit and am happy with any kindness a person shows towards animals by way of their dinner plates.

After so many years, it's like second nature to eat this way. I forget sometimes about how odd it can seem to others and get flustered when someone notices...it's a little bit like "Oh, yeah - that's right, I don't eat dairy too...", much to the widened eyes of my dinner companions. (It's becoming less of an issue though, especially the past few years as people seem to be embracing vegetarianism more readily.)

Totally awesome about your boyfriend's decision! A guy who goes veggie is a total keeper.

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VINCENT PRICE:.."No...we don't keep those things in this house.....we're vegetarians!!"
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Shae206

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 16:24
Mine was more freak out than will power as well lol and I was so excited when he decided to cut it out, Total keeper indeed! :]

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k8yk

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 16:37
I so wish I could get my BF to cut down on the meat. But Mr. Bodybuilder needs all the protein he can get. He will eat my vegetarian cooking, but he usually adds meat to it. Kind of funny. But I bet veggie chili is really good on a burger!

I've been trying to have one vegan meal a day. Maybe someday I will figure out how to give up yogurt and cheese, but that day is not today Smile
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Shae206

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 16:42
That is a great way to start Kate, one of these days I am going to work on doing the same thing, my hard ones are going to be ice cream and cheese Smile

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obakemono

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 16:50


Yes, you can have your vegan ice cream and eat it too!!

(The above is my all-time favourite...and I must be watched carefully lest I purchase it daily - it's deadly rich and criminally calorie-laden).

Check out their website - Turtle Mountain.

As for yogurt - there are more and more vegan brands popping up. The one that's sold here in Canada (not sure about the US though as it's a Canuck product) is Yoso Yogut.

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PETER LORRE:...."How bout some jellied spiders...rabbit's blood?......deadman's hair?"
VINCENT PRICE:.."No...we don't keep those things in this house.....we're vegetarians!!"
('The Raven' - 1963)
k8yk

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 17:03
Obakemono, do you pay attention to ingredients besides making sure there are no animal products?

I just ask because sometimes I'll look at vegan products that are substitutes for animal products and they are so full of chemical-sounding ingredients, they go against my personal rule "If you don't know what it is, don't eat it". For example, I picked up a soy yogurt in the store that had HFCS in it. I promptly put it back. Do you have any suggestions for vegan products that are also made from just natural stuff? Other than making it yourself, which of course I do a lot of.
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obakemono

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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 17:24
k8yk - I ALWAYS read and re-read any new products I purchase to ensure they haven't slipped any lard into it...it's a vegan paranoia thing.

As for the chemical question, most vegan products are all about the lack of chemicals, but there are a few that have some 'other' stuff in it.

My personal belief is that a few chemicals here and there are not detrimental, if 90% of one's diet is fresh and pure. I went completely 100% pure for about two years, but it didn't suit me in the long run as I found I enjoyed some of the 'less pure' foods and eat them in moderation.

It's a me thing - I'm a middle-path kind of gal.

If you're looking for completely natural vegan products, browsing like mad in a really big health food store is your best bet.

There are ways to make your own vegan (or non-vegan) yogurt with one of those yogurt making machines - or Kefir machines. You can get non-dairy active bacterial culture from the health food store as well.

PS - I've updated the 'Turtle Mountain' link in my previous post. They have lots of products out there for those days when you just HAVE to have something sweet.

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PETER LORRE:...."How bout some jellied spiders...rabbit's blood?......deadman's hair?"
VINCENT PRICE:.."No...we don't keep those things in this house.....we're vegetarians!!"
('The Raven' - 1963)
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Posted: 12 Jul 2010, 18:45
Purely Decadant is a good brand although I wish they didn't have to use so much sugar. Out of all their flavors, PB Zig Zag is my fav too Very Happy
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