Low Carb Diets - Do they work for everyone?

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Shredder99

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Posted: 20 Apr 2017, 12:17
I've been on a no/low carb diet for 2 weeks and gained 4 lbs. My friend swears by it, however, and has lost more than 60 lbs in the last year. She doesn't eat fruit, which I thought was a dieter's go-to food, no? When I was younger I could drop weight by cutting out cheese, yet still eating pasta, grits, and all the so-called bad foods today. What gives?
Jadsl

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Posted: 20 Apr 2017, 17:44
Shredder99, have you figured your macros?

Standard ketogenic diet (SKD): This is a very low-carb, moderate-protein and high-fat diet. It typically contains 75% fat, 20% protein and only 5% carbs

MACROS:
1200 calories a day
carb: 15 grams (5%)
protein: 60 grams (20%)
fat: 100 grams (75%)

1400 calories a day
carb: 18 grams (5%)
protein: 70 grams (20%)
fat: 117 grams (75%)

1600 calories a day
carb: 20 grams (5%)
protein: 80 grams (20%)
fat: 133 grams (75%)
Starting weight was 308 lbs on March 2nd, 2017. Setting loss goals in 25 lbs increments. Final goal weight 140-150 lbs. Scars are like tattoos...they are a forever reminder...but all are not visible to the naked eye.
Jadsl

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Posted: 20 Apr 2017, 17:47
also the less you have to lose the slower it goes off.
Starting weight was 308 lbs on March 2nd, 2017. Setting loss goals in 25 lbs increments. Final goal weight 140-150 lbs. Scars are like tattoos...they are a forever reminder...but all are not visible to the naked eye.
Yourpissingm...

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Posted: 20 Apr 2017, 18:40
No, my mother loves Weight Watchers; and couldn't live without carbs. My cousin loves doing an hour of cardio ever morning and can't live without bread and wine. You have to find what works for you. I love Keto; I feel like it was made for me. Smile
~ Andi
KathrynZarag...

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Posted: 20 Apr 2017, 23:38
To be honest, no! I am a rice-eater and I cannot live without it. Lol. I used to it 1 cup of rice and a small portion of meat together with vegetable salad and 1-2 kinds of fruits everyday in my diet.
wholefoodnut

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Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 15:36
Nope they don't work for everyone. Sure I lost weight, gained that and more back quickly because I couldn't stick to it. The plan with that much meat and fat made me sick to my stomach. I devised my own plan that fits the way I like to eat and cook tweaked it along the way with lots of whole foods: whole grains, beans, veggies, nuts and seeds and a smattering of animal proteins but those only occasionally. Lost approx. 70 pounds and have kept it off for 3 years. I've gained 4 pounds back as work has been catering in lunches daily since we have been working through them and I have been eating them more than I should.
"The way we eat in America makes us sick, and if we change our diet--simply incrementally-- we will be healthier." Mark Bittman Food Matters

Jeri
Phil

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Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 16:33
Individual tastes and tolerances vary and you have to enjoy the food you're eating or you won't stick with it.
franciscogar...

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Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 17:12
Carbs are confusing to a lot of people, it is simple if you remember that there are two types of carbs, simple carbs and complex carbs.

Complex carbs are healthy, they include things like flax, beans and green vegetables, some fruit and whole wheat grains. This is what you want to eat through out the day, mostly in the morning and lunch.

Simple carbs are best to avoid. They are great for runners and athletes, you can eat them right before a workout for energy or afterwards with little damage because they go straight to your muscles as glycogen. If you eat simple carbs like pasteurized juices, sodas, white rice, breads and pasta, eat a limited amount pre or post workout. If you don't exercise avoid them, you won't miss them if they aren't in your fridge. Razz


As a nurse and weightlifter, (I have found that Keto diets are harmful not only to myself but to a number of people.) It is best to have a balanced diet that includes a bit of everything. But whatever works for you, I just try to eat unprocessed, raw veggies and healthy cuts of meat, nuts and whole wheat. With a heavy focus on Meat and veggies with a few complex carbs.

If you need a book on nutrition I recommend Dr.David Zinczenko's Book called The New Abs Diet, not really a diet but a nutrition handbook, it explains what you should eat and what you should avoid and has tons of recipes. It has kept me healthy for years.
Phil

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Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 21:13
Making blanket statements like, "I have found that Keto diets are harmful" does zero service to anyone.
Jadsl

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Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 23:35
for me, a ketogenic diet has given me control of my blood sugars. I have gone from fasting glucose levels of 180-225 to numbers in the 70's and 80's. Now it is getting until my glucose rarely goes over 100 evening after eating. I feel like I finally have control over food because I am not craving or thinking about food all the time. It feels like being released from a prison where food had me trapped and I had no control over myself. I could last maybe 3 months on a diet and lose some weight but it was done by sheer willpower and desperation. Now I just eat what I plan and don't think about it. I feel like I have my life back in my control. I believe I can keep this up for life because it feels natural to me. Time will tell. I believe everyone has to find what works for them then use it.
Starting weight was 308 lbs on March 2nd, 2017. Setting loss goals in 25 lbs increments. Final goal weight 140-150 lbs. Scars are like tattoos...they are a forever reminder...but all are not visible to the naked eye.
fred4win

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Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 18:21
Keto start in the brain, follow by education. Then add a dose of discipline.
fred
paytonjxo

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Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 19:41
Carbs are what you body wants and needs!
Look into high carb low fat diets, they are ideal for humans. We turn the carbs that we eat into glucose which is our energy source
Ingria

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Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 20:55
High carb, low fat diets are not ideal for humans. With this advice from medical establishment half of the world population got overweight and pre diabetic if not diabetic. I personally cannot do keto for the long run, but do have to limit carbs like most of us. In my humble opinion, there are people that never seem to gain weight, they do not need to worry about the amount of carbs they eat, but they are not likely to participate in this discussion. For the rest of us, we need to find how much carbs we can tolerate without gaining weight, and limit our daily choices to the most healthy carbs like vegetables, some fruit and good grains.
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The first thing you lose on a diet is your sense of humor. ~ Author Unknown
It doesn’t matter what diet you follow… What matters is what makes you follow your diet. ~ Tom Venuto
Janine...

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Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 06:38
low carb high fat works for me - I have lost 25kg's (55 lbs) over the last two and a half years with on and off banting. Now I know if you do the maths this isn't really that much per week or month, but if you think I could have gained it instead of lost it, to me it is huge. More and more research is coming to light that has been buried for years that proves the low carb high fat point of view. And low carb high fat is NOT a high protein diet, it is moderate protein where we eat a normal palm sized portion of protein. Bottom line, learn to listen to your body, it will tell you what it needs and what does and does not work for it. Work with your body instead of against it and results will be effortless. No diet or lifestyle is a one size fits all, all our bodies are different and we owe it to ourselves to find what works for us an individuals. Good luck everyone! #thebattleofthebulgeisreal
Phil

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Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 09:54
paytonjxo wrote:
Carbs are what you body wants and needs!
Look into high carb low fat diets, they are ideal for humans. We turn the carbs that we eat into glucose which is our energy source


Da'hell outta here with that.
ieGod

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Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 14:41
You need a calorie deficit, regarldess of your diet choice. Keto might help you achieve that. It might not.

If you're gaining weight you need to scale back your intake or increase your exercise (or both!).
wholefoodnut

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Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 19:30
Phil wrote:
Individual tastes and tolerances vary and you have to enjoy the food you're eating or you won't stick with it.


Sums up part of my theory!!Very Happy Whole grains, legumes, oils such as olive and avocado, lots of veggies, fruits. Whole natural foods sustain and make your body feel so good. Most of the world uses animal proteins as a tiny portion to flavor the rest. Actually drinking a glass of ice cold organic local whole milk at the moment, it is so good, nothing like the super market brands.

I love foods with bold seasonings curries, Moroccan, Asian, Mexican, Cajun, also foods well cooked and seasoned with subtle flavors. A simple dish of fresh perfectly steamed asparagus topped with a bit of butter, a sprinkle of salt and pepper is to die for. Food that taste amazing are satisfying.
"The way we eat in America makes us sick, and if we change our diet--simply incrementally-- we will be healthier." Mark Bittman Food Matters

Jeri
Jadsl

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Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 06:03
I agree with Phil and wholefoodnut. but add that you also have to find what type diet fits your tastes and tolerances AND gives positive results for you in the management of your health and weight. different people have different metabolisms what works for one doesn't work for another. find what works for you and stick to it! for some, it will be LCHF and others the low-fat high carb and for others something in between. but never quit trying to find what works for you until you find it then use it.
Starting weight was 308 lbs on March 2nd, 2017. Setting loss goals in 25 lbs increments. Final goal weight 140-150 lbs. Scars are like tattoos...they are a forever reminder...but all are not visible to the naked eye.
Yourpissingm...

Joined: Dec 16
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Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 06:37
Phil wrote:
paytonjxo wrote:
Carbs are what you body wants and needs!
Look into high carb low fat diets, they are ideal for humans. We turn the carbs that we eat into glucose which is our energy source


Da'hell outta here with that.


LOL If carbs are good for us why are so many people fat? I only loose weight when I limit carbs. And with carbs (sugar) out of the way, your body burns FAT for fuel, which is the goal!
~ Andi
minitata

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Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 06:57
If I eat carbs - even 'good' carbs like leafy green veg - then my weight goes up. I haven't eaten bread or grains for a couple of years now and I've lost weight - quite a lot of weight. I messed up my metabolism by following low calorie diets for about 35 years - lost weight, put it back on plus a bit extra - ended up that I could maintain my weight on 1000 calories. In fact in hospital they put me on 800 calories - I remember losing weight on that when I was 16 - and I lost 25 grams over a week.

I now fast at least a couple of days a week and manage to lose weight. So often when you've been fat for a long time it's insulin resistance causing it. You've overfed so often on glucose pushing carbs and fructose that your body tries to ignore the insulin pushing it into cells so it takes more and more to push it in there.



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