Is Sugar Toxic (60 Minutes)

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happihart

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Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 06:26
Very interesting....Last night's segement from 60 MINUTES

'IS SUGAR TOXIC"

www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7417238n&tag=contentMain;contentAux
DLynneGarner

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Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 07:40
Great article. Thanks for sharing!
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elamp65

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Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 07:50
Too much of anything is not good for us, everything in moderation. The closer a food is to its natural state the better it is for us...just saying.
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Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 12:24
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Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 15:10
Thank you for sharing this important link!!!
Kppadgett

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Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 22:01
Sugar has the same effect on body composition as the carbohydrates in Oatmeal/Brown Rice/Sweet Potatoes.

There is nothing wrong with sugar at all. Go look at my nutrition log, look at my weight, consider that im 10-11% body fat, then look at my sugar intake.

Ever heard of IIFYM (If It Fits Your Macros)??? You can eat whatever you want as long at you hit 1g/lb body weight of protein, .5g/Lb body weight of fat, and dont neglect micro nutrients.

Hot stuff in the actual fitness world, myself and tons of others follow it and eat a good amount of sugar daily and stay in great shape.

If you look at my log, you'll see I have days where my TDEE is near 5000 calories (When I actually go do something), and I'll smash 1.5 liters of ice cream. Not dead or poisoned. You wont be either.
A pre planned diet is a recipe for failure, Do IIFYM and incorperate foods you enjoy into your daily intake.

Dietary fat =/= net fat gain, consuming more calories than you burn = net fat gain.
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Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 22:36
elamp65 wrote:
Too much of anything is not good for us, everything in moderation. The closer a food is to its natural state the better it is for us...just saying.

I totally agree with this post. Processed foods that convert to sugar are the worst for our bodies. However, too much natural sugar can lead to excess belly fat. The best way to consume natural sugars is in the morning with oatmeal and a banana or a smoothie. This gives us a natural boost to help us get our day started out on the right foot! I always try to consume foods that are rich in B5, which is a natural fat fighter!
I try to limit my sugar intake at all costs. this doesn't mean that I don't cheat from time to time. But I always try to stay natural and drink plenty of water!
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Posted: 07 Aug 2012, 10:57
I hope that 100 calories of sugar a day for woman doesn't include natural sugar found in fruits and vegetables. How about diet drinks? I know moderation in everything but...this is very interesting and I believe every word of it. Thanks for this link and for Dr. Lustig.
Kppadgett

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Posted: 07 Aug 2012, 20:39
Neptunebch wrote:
I hope that 100 calories of sugar a day for woman doesn't include natural sugar found in fruits and vegetables. How about diet drinks? I know moderation in everything but...this is very interesting and I believe every word of it. Thanks for this link and for Dr. Lustig.


Really now? How does the 4 calories per gram of carbohydrates in sugar effect your body composition differently than the 4 calories per gram of carbohydrates in, say, organic fruits???

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A pre planned diet is a recipe for failure, Do IIFYM and incorperate foods you enjoy into your daily intake.

Dietary fat =/= net fat gain, consuming more calories than you burn = net fat gain.
fatoldlady

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Posted: 07 Aug 2012, 21:39
I would take real natural sugar over any sugar substitute any day. Its all about managing your calorie intake. I agree that having huge amount of sugar in your diet could cause many problem, including obesity, but replacing sugar with chemicals is not a more healthy option.
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 01:17
Thanks for the link. This info really need to be shared.
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 11:32
This is nothing new. I didn't hear anything that hasn't already been said by others before him. We heard this from Atkins, from sugar busters, from the flat belly diet people, weight watchers, the skinny b----- book, the no S diet, south beach diet plan ... I have yet to find a diet book, nutrition plan article, etc that doesn't say to cut out the added sugars and the processed foods. They all seem to say the same thing in the end: to drink your water; eat foods in their most natural state, eat breakfast, and move more.
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 12:09
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Really now? How does the 4 calories per gram of carbohydrates in sugar effect your body composition differently than the 4 calories per gram of carbohydrates in, say, organic fruits???


If you want to know the difference, you can go see a video that is over an hour long on YouTube, by Dr. Lustig, called "Sugar: The Bitter Truth"

Bottom line; Sugar is half glucose, half fructose. High Fructose Corn Syrup is about 60% fructose. Other sweeteners such as honey, maple syrup, beet sugars, etc, all have fructose as part of their composition. And fructose is metabolized 100% in your liver.

When it is processed there, several things happen that can lead to obesity, high cholesterol, fatty liver, cirrhosis of the liver, hyperinsulemia, and I think a few more I can't recall off the top of my head. He explains the biochemistry of this process in the video.

Fruit does have fructose, and as such some of the same issues...BUT, it has fiber as well. This impacts how we absorb and utilize the fructose. But personally, I can not include fruit in my diet and lose weight.

After watching it, I cut out HFCS. A month later, sugar. Soon after, all other sweeteners. And finally, all highly processed refined foods...flour, rice, etc. It has made a big difference for me in reigning in my blood sugar which was starting to creep up to borderline diabetic ranges, and controlling my cholesterol levels, which previously were unresponsive to my attempts to reduce by losing weight by simply counting calories, and eating a wide range of foods.

If you have doubts about this, I strongly recommend this video, as it goes into far more detail than the 60 Minutes presentation.
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 13:09
I'm with elamp65. Keep it simple. Literally. Simple sugars from natural sources like fruit (no bananas for me. too much sugar!) is ok in my book. Refined stuff? Ehh, I'll pass. Too much makes me all puffy from added water weight. Some of us maybe lucky enough to have a body that can handle lots of sugar and carbs, but I am not one of them. This IIFYM does sound interesting. I may have to try it out and see what results.

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Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 13:26
Noooooo!!! Not another "toxic sugar" thread!! I'm having terrible flashbacks....


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Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 14:07
yduj57 wrote:
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Really now? How does the 4 calories per gram of carbohydrates in sugar effect your body composition differently than the 4 calories per gram of carbohydrates in, say, organic fruits???


If you want to know the difference, you can go see a video that is over an hour long on YouTube, by Dr. Lustig, called "Sugar: The Bitter Truth"

Bottom line; Sugar is half glucose, half fructose. High Fructose Corn Syrup is about 60% fructose. Other sweeteners such as honey, maple syrup, beet sugars, etc, all have fructose as part of their composition. And fructose is metabolized 100% in your liver.

When it is processed there, several things happen that can lead to obesity, high cholesterol, fatty liver, cirrhosis of the liver, hyperinsulemia, and I think a few more I can't recall off the top of my head. He explains the biochemistry of this process in the video.

Fruit does have fructose, and as such some of the same issues...BUT, it has fiber as well. This impacts how we absorb and utilize the fructose. But personally, I can not include fruit in my diet and lose weight.

After watching it, I cut out HFCS. A month later, sugar. Soon after, all other sweeteners. And finally, all highly processed refined foods...flour, rice, etc. It has made a big difference for me in reigning in my blood sugar which was starting to creep up to borderline diabetic ranges, and controlling my cholesterol levels, which previously were unresponsive to my attempts to reduce by losing weight by simply counting calories, and eating a wide range of foods.

If you have doubts about this, I strongly recommend this video, as it goes into far more detail than the 60 Minutes presentation.


I understand the metabolic pathway that HFCS follows. Do you know HFCS will not result in a net gain of fat as long as you are still in a calorie deficit?

That is what I'm getting at. If you eat 4000 calores today of butter and straight Fructose, you will still lose weight if you have burned more than 4000 calories.

Caloreis eaten V. Calories burned determines weight gain or loss, not the name of the food.
A pre planned diet is a recipe for failure, Do IIFYM and incorperate foods you enjoy into your daily intake.

Dietary fat =/= net fat gain, consuming more calories than you burn = net fat gain.
Nimm

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Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 14:19
erika2633 wrote:
Noooooo!!! Not another "toxic sugar" thread!! I'm having terrible flashbacks....


I've been trying to resist. It's not easy Smile

Without repeating everything from the last time this was on 60 Minutes - dosage and context. Two words Lustig likes to ignore.

If you are obese, have a hypercaloric diet, and sedentary, 150g of exogenous dietary sugar (and a lot of other foods, for that matter) will have very different effects upon you than if you are active, have a eucaloric or hypocaloric diet, and have a lower body fat %. And there's a continuum in between.

If you want to avoid sucrose and/or HFCS, then feel free. But keep in mind that rigid dieting strategies are associated with more adverse behaviors and outcomes than flexible strategies.
happihart

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Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 14:27
I agree there really wasn't anything new in the segment, but there are still thousands of people out there who do not know what healthy eating is. Including my husband. He thinks if its chicken or vegetable it's good for you no matter how much you fry it, cream it or smother it. Many people think of sugar as "in the sugar bowl" and have no idea how to read labels. Good nutritional information is not overdone. The people looking to make $$$ ...that's another topic.
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 14:39
I am frequently astounded by how the diet industry always tries to make things seem very complicated, and then offer the magic solution (for a price). I really appreciate good, well-researched information backed by science. I also appreciate real food, not too much, mostly plants (thank you, Michael Pollan). I still enjoy sugar as a part of my diet (rather than artificial sweeteners) but continually push myself to choose fruit and other whole foods instead.
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mattyelle1

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Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 09:14
Great article / find!

Carbs from refined sugars are not processed the same as carbs from natural sugars found in fruits, honey, maple syrup, etc. First of all, your body evolved around the ecosystem and is designed to process natural foods. Natural foods will have certain molecular structures different from processed, different carb types e.g. fructose vs. glucose, and will contain a variety of nutrients required for your body to properly and optimally metabolize the energy (calories). For example, biotin is required for your body to properly expend blood glucose energy, and anti-oxidants help with cellular function which again helps metabolize energy. Not to mention vitamin C, B-complex, D, folic acid, CoQ10, calcium, iron, etc, etc. Remember, how these molecules are organized/structured in natural foods is also very important.

Also, what is important is how the energy is processed. Carbs (complex glucose, fructose, sucrose, etc) must be broken down and converted to simple glucose molecules before they enter the blood stream by your liver and other organs. Your organs have evolved to specifically process complex natural foods which will never be replicated in a lab.

Just something to keep in mind. Remember, although it helps with the learning process to simplify the human body model, it is an extremely complex machine which has adapted specifically to nature.


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