Is it the weights???

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lovemyboyz

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 06:44
I am having a very rough time this week, I gained alot since last week. I am not sure if the weights I have been doing is adding extra weight? Should I stop? Will the weight move? I started the weights again last week. How much water can muscles actually retain?
HELP!!!!!! Crying or Very sad
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Sheryl10

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 07:29
After very briefly looking at some of your information, I have a few thoughts. Take them with a grain of salt, of course . . . . . . . first, I think for your current weight, 1200 calories is on the low side. You might want to look at other websites, like webmd, to get some information about that. I'm not familiar with the diet plan you're on, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Second, don't stop doing weights. In the long run, you'll be healthier to stick with them, done properly, of course.

Good luck. Hang in there.

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Natural.Lift...

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 07:30
Stop focusing on the scale so much and focus on body fat percentage.

On a side note, it could be because you're not eating enough. Most of your recent days are significantly below 1200.
rjenkins27

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 07:31
Don't stop strength training. It is one of the most useful forms of exercise you can do to improve your health, appearance, stamina, strength, etc.

What you weigh is just a number. How you feel and your overall health is what is important. If you look better which makes you feel better, all the more reason to keep at it.

If you are eating right and exercising, you will achieve your weight goal as part of your overall health plan.

Muscles rock! Skinny-fat does not.

(disclaimer - I am not very muscular. I try to do 30 minutes of strength training 3 times a week with moderate weight. The results have been excellent given that I don't aspire to be bulky, just lean)



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Sheryl10

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 07:31
Oops, one more thought - you might not want to weigh yourself so often, just for your sanity. Once a week will maybe help you see the bigger picture of your weight loss.

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12Sydney

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 07:44
You could try measuring yourself- I noticed sometimes there is no weight loss, but several inches overall. I measure arms, abs (2 in below BB), waist, hips, thighs. And I agree with the above- don't focus on the numbers too much so it drives you crazy.
lovemyboyz

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 07:55
Thank you so much everyone for your advice!
The problem is I am a numbers person in all areas of my life and it seems as though when I stop paying attention to the scale by not weighing everyday I lose focus. I know it is wrong but that is the only thing I shouldn't change for myself, to me it is like a babysitter if that makes any sense. I have lost and gained before so I need to be watched.
I do take measurements, I have lost about 4 inches in my waist and hips.
My scale does not measure body fat percentage but I will be looking into one shortly, 2 people had recommended the Tanita scale.
Usually when I have a deficit in calories I am making up for a day or two that I ate out, it is kind of like a spike diet.
These are just my thoughts, there are many diets or WOE/WOL I guess I may need to break through the plateau.
Does anyone know how much water is retained by muscle?
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RyanCo2486

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 09:24
DO NOT stop lifting weights. Lifting weight will help you get fit. You may not lose a ton of weight but you are building lean muscle mass which will ultimately not show as weight loss but a possible stall or weight gain because, as the old saying goes, "muscle weighs more than fat." Seriously, weight lifting, even in its basic form of the basic lifts, is beneficial for you. Weigh yourself once a week and don't do it more than that because body weight fluctuates tremendously. If you're noticing a change in your body composition but your weight is not moving, you are turning fat into muscle and that should be applauded.
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RyanCo2486

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 09:26
As far as water retention in muscles, I am not sure. I do know that if you are wanting to eliminate water weight from your body, you should consume half of your body weight (in pounds) in fluid ounces of water. So, if you weigh 160lbs, you should be taking in at least 80fl oz. of water a day, close to 3/4 of a gallon. The more water that goes in, the more comes out.
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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 09:52
You are looking to quantify something that can't possibly be quantified. None of us know how much muscle you have or how hard you've been lifting or anything. All I can tell you is that if you are eating right and exercising you are NOT gaining fat. Period. The uptick can be anything really, from water retention to food in your belly to muscle growth etc. It will go back down. If you let the scale dictate how you feel, you're setting yourself u for a world of frustration.
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Fidgekitty

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 10:08
If it's any consolation, I've gained up to 5 pounds in water weight from weight training, it seems like the more you break your muscles down in a day the more the swell with liquid, and the best way to keep from bloating (from sodium) is to drink more water. After my 5 pound water weight gain, it took me about 2 days recovery to lose it, but if you strength train regularly, eventually you'll start to see that scale creep down again even with the muscle swell. People give muscle weight more credit than it's do at first, it can take weeks to build a pound of muscle, but building muscle will add weight immediately via fluid retention.
redvelvet196...

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 11:13
I did the same thing started at a gym and gained weight that first few weeks and it was discouraging but as time as gone on I am now starting to lose weight. I did have a difference in my clothes and that helped a little. good luck.Cool
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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 13:07
The problem is I am a numbers person in all areas of my life and it seems as though when I stop paying attention to the scale by not weighing everyday I lose focus.

Good for you, just be more analytical about it.
The Hacker's diet has a tool (either online or on a spreadsheet) that allows you to calculate a moving average. Feel free to weight daily, but embrace the moving average. The moving average helps you separate the day to day variations in water weight and see the trend. http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/online/hdo.html
If you were looking at a budget you wouldn't freak out every time you paid the utilities and rent, right?

I agree sore muscles hold more water while they recover http://www.personalpowertraining.net/Articles/what_causes_muscle_soreness.htm. As you get used to working out you get less Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness.

Further, Along with each additional gram of glycogen [fuel] stored in the muscles, about 3 grams of water are stored, resulting in a weight gain of as much as 2 to 4 pounds.
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2002/01/09/features/health.html So as fuel sources are used and replenished you'll see falls and rises in water weight.

The salt in your diet will have an effect on water retention too.

One reason diets tell you to drink a lot of water is because you stockpile it more more if you get less.

I retain and lose a lot of water on a monthly basis, you may too.

So like any good financial analyst or scientist look at the numbers, but try to get behind them a bit to understand them. Be looking for the trend, not the noise.

And I agree your calories often look low, and maybe your protein looks low?
Natural.Lift...

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Posted: 04 Nov 2010, 16:41
RyanCo2486 wrote:
If you're noticing a change in your body composition but your weight is not moving, you are turning fat into muscle and that should be applauded.

Turning fat into muscle is impossible. There is only gaining or losing muscle and gaining or losing fat.
Onecrazyhors...

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Posted: 05 Nov 2010, 09:56
Are you gaining weight on the scales or are your clothes getting tighter?

Fidgekitty is right, too many people give credit to muscle growth for weight gain but unless you are really lifting heavy (which i think you probably aren't) and eating a calorie excess (which i KNOW you aren't) you will probably not grow any new muscle and therefore any weight gain will be something else.

Keep doing weights, it keeps your BMR up throughout the day. Basically your body burns more calories just doing regular stuff the more muscle you have. It's the gift that just keeps giving!

You're undereating. In October you underate by a daily average of 1763 cals! That is simply way too much and probably the reason you are not seeing the results you want/expect. Eat your calories.
lovemyboyz

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Posted: 06 Nov 2010, 11:52
I was gaining on the scale, I am going to try not to stress about it but it is so hard for me not to. I am not saying it is right but it is discouraging when it goes up.
I am continuing to do the weights.
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