Thinking of switching diets... what's ur recommendation?

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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 11:28
I CAN TYPE IN ALL CAPS TOO! Rosa and Trixiesly, you are missing the point. YOU SHOULDN'T BE PROMOTING THIS DIET. It is not even a diet! You are telling people to inject themselves with a hormone, and eat only 500 calories a day. That is IRRESPONSIBLE and insane. I could care less that you do it to yourself, but don't tell other people it is a good idea BECAUSE IT ISN'T! There have been no long-term studies on the effects of injecting the hormone, and eating under 500 calories is seriously unhealthy! Not to mention you have no idea what is in the stuff you buy (which is probably online and could be anything for all you know).

And rosa, were you sticking to the question when you were ranting about how vegans have a "PASTY UNHEALTHY COMPLEXION"? That comment wasn't pertinent to the question and was very negative! What did vegans do to you? lol

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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 11:46
I am very concerned about the hype over this "diet". I agree with leahl- promoting this diet is irresponsible.

HCG users are really stuck in the diet mindset. My point is that DIETS DO NOT WORK (I can type in all caps too). All of the diets you listed are quick fix solutions that DO NOT WORK. I feel similarly about diet pills, but the Simeons thing is even worse, IMO, because of the extremely low calorie intake.

The BEST "diet" is a nutritional approach you can follow for life. How does eating less than 500 calories a day teach you something you can follow for life? It is a crash diet, plain and simple.

Another disturbing thing I've noticed is that most people on this "diet" are already quite thin. You aren't in the range of weight that would be considered obese or dangerous. This diet appeals to people with eating disorders, plain and simple. You have to be really desperate to try something like this- and I feel sorry for you that you can't see the plain and simple solution: eating the right amount of food and exercise. No, you will not get overnight results, but you will get results you can maintain.

It's interesting how really high strung you all are about this! If you diss my diet, I will laugh it off, not get all riled up. Arguing on the internet is stupid. Don't let it get you all pissed off, it's totally pointless.
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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 12:02
Wow Rosa, it sounds like your husband is a shallow jerk! Are you a glutton for punishment? It all makes sense now. First, you shoot yourself up with this hormone while following a DANGEROUS CRASH DIET and it's no wonder if you have a husband whose love for you is based on how thin you are. He would rather have you lose weight with this insane "diet" and risk your health than for you to be a few pounds heavier? Man, that must suck!!!
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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 12:43
wooow....what an argument!!
Leaving aside the fact that this post has gone to so many tangents, my true recomendation is to rsearch all the diets out there and stick to your favorite for good...or take the best from each and create your own lifestyle.
I admire MimiMuffin and k8yk because that's what they did...they incorporated all the best part of each diet and created a very functional and unique program that has given them results, and most importantly results that will last as long as that lifestyle goes on.
I hope that makes sense, lol
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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 13:21
As for this particular hcg user, I am curious to see what has happened with this person in the last 8 months. I've wondered about long term results.
Someone else mentioned that it is possible to follow Weight Watchers on your own. I've never looked into it because it costs money. Where can you find resources to do it on your own? I will probably stick with what I'm doing, but I would like to check it out. Like other people, I like to compare and take the best parts of things that work for me.

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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 16:45
LisaMWitt wrote:
Under "member diets", Fatsecret removed phase 1 of simeons on the forum because the admonition to eat 500 calories was considered risky.

Correction Lisa...According to the protocol Phase 1 is the loading part of the protocol and is a very very very large number of calories each day. The protocol says to eat for those two days of phase 1 until you are stuffed. Phase 2 is actually the low calorie portion of the diet.
Links about HCG and the diet protocol (even the research studies)have been banned by k8 and FS.

So that I don't run afoul of the terms and conditions or the mean girls I will not be posting any further in the public forums. However, since several people have asked me to once again make my profile public I am doing that. Contrary to what others have said I am a real dieter and came on this site to track my weight, calories, and types of food. If I was a scammer I would certainly post better results than I have had. However with my hypoglycemia, insulin resistance and what I believe was the beginning of possible metabolic disorder I have done much better than I have ever done on any other diet. My blood tests for sugar, cholesterol, triglycerides, and others have made a HUGE improvement since I started the protocol and I have NOT lost any muscle mass - only FAT!

My original weight before starting the protocol was 195 lbs. I joined fatsecret to track my calories while in my first maintenance phase after getting rid of 27 pounds. I also went off protocol for a short while so my starting fatsecret weight ticker shows as 166. I am currently in my third round of phase 2 weight loss and am very happy with my results. My plan is that once I reach my goal weight to continue posting my weight once a month for at least a year to let everyone know how I am maintaining.

In the past I recommended a particular homeopathic HCG product (which I still would recommend) that is helping me but whatever method of weight loss you choose to use and that you find effective I applaud you for your commitment to weight loss and health and wish you good luck in getting rid of any extra weight.

In other words I will no longer be feeding the TROLLS.

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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 18:02
Lisa, you can join the weight watchers site and have access to their message boards. Don't ask people what your point range is supposed to be, or they will get very angry with you!

When I was doing it, I was supposed to have X number of points per day (I don't remember the range), and I had to have some good fat, some dairy, and 5 to 7 servings of fruit and veg.

There was flex points where you could save up your points and have a splurge day, or you could use your flex point every day instead. Before flex points, it was something else where you got a certain number of points per day. At the time, the points in a food was made more favorable if a serving had at least 4 grams of fiber.

As you lost weight, your points ranged decreased.

Basically, it was a calories in-calories out plan with some nutritional guidelines added in for good measure. It works. I'm guessing if you googled it you would be able to find more information. But, you don't need to worry about the points if you just journal your food. That was the other thing with WW was that you journaled your points. Journaling is the real innovation, I think. Not the points.

I like WW. I'm just done paying for weight loss plans!
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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 18:13
Ketosis is Ketosis. No matter how you try to candy coat it.

Fat is not the BEST source of fuel for the brain at all. Glucose is.
Fat contains other toxic elements.

I'm sorry but a wikipedia link is no source of fact what-so-ever. Anyone can write on there.

I also like how you repeat the same facts. There is a difference between knowing facts and actually understanding the concepts behind them.

I know exactly what ketones are and their effects on the brain and all the other useless information you're trying to force upon me.

If I wanted a biology lesson I wouldn't come on here for one, seriously.

However, bending facts to suit you isn't ideal. Nor did you explain how such process AREN'T damaging the liver.

Spouting useless facts that don't exactly 'add up' doesn't really fool me
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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 21:29


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Posted: 28 Apr 2010, 22:59
Best of luck to you, whatever your choice! Smile

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