"Fat-shaming may curb obesity" ???

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NCNOLE

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Posted: 01 Feb 2013, 18:12
Everyone is different. I can say for myself that I was 100% motivated to lose weight once I lost about 15 lbs. It became addicting, watching the scale... I set mini goals and long term goals and then readjusted my long term goals as I crept closer to them. I reached my initial long term goal right around Halloween. I came within 1/2 lb. of my next goal and was only 11 lbs. from my true long term permanent goal weight. Yeah! But what loomed ahead was Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's. The prior 2 years I had no problem saying no. This past year I traveled for Thanksgiving and Christmas. I ate out frequently and had a few bites here and there. I was active and continued to exercise, but I also spent more time laying around. That paired with a more sedentary job and a few glasses of wine and I quickly gained probably 7 lbs in a matter of 2 weeks. Fluid you say b/c surely I was not eating THAT much. But literally gained the weight from 12/23 to 1/2. And that weight held. I got right back on track on 1/2. And my weight is now down only 4 of those pounds and that has been mostly in the past week when I decided to drop 100 calories from my intake each day. I also made more of an effort to move more during the day. I'm now 100% motivated again to lose these final 15 lbs.

For me, I became complacent. I felt good, looked good, and hell I could handle an extra bite or two. That is the kind of attitude that leads me down a bad path. It scares me. This is what I have to look forward to for the rest of my life? I plan to give myself a 5 lb cushion when I reach my ultimate goal and will always be working on my fitness goals. Unfortunately, fat cells do not go away they just shrink - this paired with the risk of resuming some old habits (mostly couch time, not necessarily diet as I think I will continue eating the way I do - I don't restrict anything, but choose to eat mostly veggies and no dairy - not a diet, just my lifestyle which won't change). Anyways, binging is always a risk - I love cookies, candy, chex mix... I have trigger foods and if I am weak and buy them, then I will consume them. That's why the holidays are rough - I buy them. Next year I won't. It's always a learning process. You have to learn from your mistakes, learn why you do/eat the way you do and you have to be honest with yourself. No excuses - you are responsible for your behavior, you are responsible for your weight. If you can not accept that, then you will probably not succeed as you will always blame something (genetics, thyroid, medicine...) There is always an excuse- you have to deal with the hand you have been dealt. If your family is obese (most of my non-immediate family is) or you have to take certain meds, then you accept that and figure out how to overcome that. Don't let it become your thing.

That's all. I think this thread needs to go away - it is far to negative!! Smile
DarleneW101

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Posted: 01 Feb 2013, 18:23
" I hate to sound conspiracy theorist, but a lot of the corn subsidies in this country may have a lot to do with it, but it's purely speculation based on rumor and innuendo. There is corn in A LOT of processed food, but those foods are still measured in calories."
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And what doesn't have corn in it (and some of what does) contains wheat. Genetically altered wheat that is reeking havoc on American bodies.
"Happiness is not a goal; it is a by-product." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Spacey47

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 00:26
Weight gain is an insidious process, that can sneak up on you if you become complacent combined with access to high calorie easy to eat unhealthy food that is literally being pushed on you like a drug dealer selling crack by the advertising industry from an early age on TV, in shops, at the cinema,

It never fails to amaze me that McDonald's, Cadburys and other junk food companies sponsor the OLYMPICS!

Over your life time think of how much this crap you have been bombarded with its like
BRAIN WASHING

I think this explains why people in certain countries such as the US have got so fat in recent years
they have had the food literally rammed down their throats psychologically all their lives, coupled with increasingly sedentary life styles and in a generation we have witnessed the results.

This crap food is also incredibly cheap to buy and for people who are busy working or stressed out with kids or life it's easy to feed themselves and their families with it.

Little Johnny crying or screaming, have some sweets, been a good boy lets go to MacDonalds and then you can go home and play on your Xbox or game boy because mum or Dad doesn't have time to take you to the park or think it's too dangerous to go there!

You have to actively take a stand objectively and look at the big picture and think do I let this happen to me or can I decide my own fate?

You can, you just have to be honest about what you eat and stay on top of it, make the effort

You may not think you have time to exercise or eat healthily but you WILL find time to see the doctor or your hospital appointments
jonnybadback

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 04:32
Its like the ramblings of mad men in the forum again... Its the us fault its tv fault its food fault its mbr fault
How about its the industrial revolutions fault that stopped us toiling til we fell over dead from exhaustion. We weren't fatbut we were dead.
There are multiple reasons. You can't blame just the food industry. They are a business and are there to make money, and provide jobs.. Same as insurance companies. Its hardwired into humans to feast before the famine, trouble is we don't get many famines in the western world. I am sure someone will say that its still a lifestyle choice but again Its not that simple as the human brain doesn't always play by the rules. Also making an analogy of you don't get fat people in developing countries is not an argument. We don't live there, we don't walk 3 miles to get dirty water or hunt for food...we switch a tap on and go to the supermarket.
Spacey47

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 05:39
jonnybadback wrote:
s. Also making an analogy of you don't get fat people in developing countries is not an argument. We don't live there, we don't walk 3 miles to get dirty water or hunt for food...we switch a tap on and go to the supermarket.


Doesn't mean we should be so arrogant not to learn from their example does it?

Move a lot. eat what you need . It is quite simple, and its not just stereotyped developing countries either

What are they DEVELOPING into anyway ? fat bloated western culturally devoid consumer led, pill pushing, diabetes ridden heart attack prone
OVERWEIGHT and killing the planet ..God help Em
jonnybadback

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 06:41
Spacey the arrogance is in thinking you are always right. You make poor analagies... Do you want us to pop down the river to get some water and hunt round the supermarket and spear our fish off the display lol you are so funny... Simples
Spacey47

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 07:00
I never I said I was right did I? I'm just contributing to an interesting debate people can take what they like from my contribution that's up to them

You are just being your negative bitter self as usual

Do you really take it that LITERALLY to hunt for food !

Or are you just trolling again

Eat what you need, exercise or move a lot. Eat healthily
That is really SIMPLES
NCNOLE

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 07:58
We can not blame the food industry, they do not make us eat anything. I did not grow up eating much fast food and my mom did not allow soda or really too many choices of junk food. We didn't have the money and junk food is costly and not necessary. I have never really enjoyed fast food, other than subway, but that is probably because I have never liked fried chicken or red meat much. So, it was not the fast food industry, soda, or junk food that got me to where I was in 2011. (80 lbs overweight). I ate fairly healthy foods, I just sat on my butt too much and had dessert every night - cookies or ice cream - so that was really the only time I had junk food. I blame myself for feeding my emotions and for being lazy. That's all it was for me. I was always about 5 lbs overweight in highschool and college even when I was active, so that just set me up to be obese when I became less active. Moved to a new state, new job, didn't know anyone, sat around and gained weight. So, we all have a CHOICE - continue to eat junk, fast food and do little activity, and by doing so many of us are making the choice to be fat and happy? Or we tell ourselves we are fat and happy! We all need to make the choice to be healthier - we have that option. We don't live it a third world country with limited resources - think of all the resources available to us. Now is a lot easier to lose the weight with all the information we can get online. We just have to make the decision and do it. Again no excuses. I hate excuses, just do it.
jonnybadback

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 10:05
Do you really pick apart what people write? i see you have resorted again to name calling. its to be expected of such an opinionated person. Do you take that literally as 'developing' lol. Keep ranting your foolish bigoted thoughts and i expect you will comment as you always like the last word. I know you love quick replies but i was out with my spear hunting in the supermarket... Got me a chicken...Simples lol what a joker
Spacey47

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 11:15
johhny i see you for what you are fella, a sad man at home with a bad back waiting on getting the sack and whose only 'joy' is trying to bait people on forums, i am having an ineresting discussion with some people ...you know you dont have to post but that won't stop you

of course im opinionated thats what Forums are for OPINIONS!

nothing bigoted about what i have said a case of pot n kettle me thinks

Spacey47

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 11:20
@NCNOLE

i hear what you are saying and yes in the end it comes down to a CHOICE of what we end up putting in our mouths.

i think the trouble is we have too many resources, too much food and too many excuses not to do things.

we also have information such as the internet and apps like fatsecret but we have created our own need for them

but no matter what resources we have you still have to as you say it

JUST DO IT!

jonnybadback

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 11:24
Lol you see another opinion. Yes i have a bad back but where does it come from that i am waiting on being sacked. youhave such a good imagination.

I was posting on the forum an opinion. Just because you disagree you start throwing stupid names and comments. Obviously you have something missing in your life at home as you feel it is your mission to tell people they are wrong because you don't agree with. you did the same on other forum sites calling people names when they don't agree with stroking your mid life crisis ego.
jonnybadback

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 11:27
My post was not even directed at you but you were as usual selective in your reply to raise emotion.
Spacey47

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 11:28
i dont disagrre with you as you have said nothing of worth to disagree with , you just troll my posts , i know its one of your social outlets and i actually pity you somewhat

if it makes you happy Have at it
jonnybadback

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 11:32
Lol and that's why you comment on my posts. Keep believing you are always right
eKatherine

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 13:30
NCNOLE wrote:
We can not blame the food industry, they do not make us eat anything.


But we did not surround ourselves with tasty, low-nutrition food and food cues. We are not to blame for that. It is not natural to be surrounded by mountains of ready-to-eat junk food. What is natural is to get hungry, to go out and dig something up or hunt something down, and bring it back home to be prepared and eaten. The further we get from that, the fewer people are able to stay thin.
Verge2001

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 13:35
Good grief you two...you were both very disrespectful to MCNOLE.

@ MCNOLE, I am with you, I had the same damn problem with the holidays. So, this week I lowered my calories, increased my cardio ten minutes...need to drink more water. Let me know how you are doing and I will do the same. Good luck, I am 6 pounds away from a 100 pound weight loss, and 34 away from my first goal. It is killing me to be in this funky plateau Razz~~
jonnybadback

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 15:18
I wasn't replying to mcnole. i was replying to the idiot who thinks its funny referring to peoples disabilities. Sorry mcnole if you thought i was.
Verge2001

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 15:27
@ Jonny...ur awesome Smile Do you think it is unreasonable to blame the food industry for knowingly being unethical...we had no problem blaming the tobacco companies for their ethics. I believe the food industry has worked very hard to suck our children into wanting very bad food. The use of cartoons, toys, ect...
Spacey47

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Posted: 02 Feb 2013, 16:52
Jonny is just a Stirrer or better known as a troll poster

yes lets not blame perhaps the most damaging and lying industry for what they have done to our food supply that we KNOW about let alone what we DONT

Horse burgers anyone sold as beef, massive amounts of sugar and salt in childrens foods, aspartame, fructose, corn syrup , transfats all shovelled down peoples necks and in many cases sold to them as healthy food, battery hens that can barely stand with burns on their legs caused by their own urine and faeces, cattle with foot and mouth, cattle stuffed with steroids to make them grow,supermarkets screwing farmers for every penny,

no lets not blame them for anything its just BUSINESS after all


as for my midlife crisis ego ...well someone who saw me recently commented on my improved physical appearance witha similar comment

are you having a midlife crisis....I said YEAH its GREAT im practically the same weight i was when i was 19 nearly 30 years ago, i can fit into 30 inch jeans, i have a nice little 6pack coming through, a nurse ata casualty ward who treated me when i fell off my bike thought i was about 30, i can play all day with my son over the park running an jumping like an idiot and playing football without feeling tired in the slightest, i can run for miles without getting knackered out.My missus cant keep her hands off me and says its great havin such a fit fella. Women and men have complimented me on my physique and ask me how i did it and what tips i can give them , i recommend the fatsecret app

I love a MIDLIFE CRISIS i highly recommend them to everyone im not ready for the beer gut , cardigan and slippers and pipe just yet thanks

and if you think im full of BullS**T nip over to the marks daily apple
website http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread66456.html

and see for yourself, BTW im now about 4lbs lighter and leaner than the pictures that are there



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