Sugar Substitutes

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esh

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Posted: 21 Sep 2006, 11:56
I hear that sugar substitutes are really bad for you. I remember reading somewhere that all of the industry-sponsored studies on aspartame claimed that there was no problem with it. Too me it smells a bit like tobacco industry research which never found a problem with smoking.

Am i being too skeptical?
acm44

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Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 09:19
I don't know the science behind it all, but I have foregone sugar and flour from my diet(still eat potatoes, brown rice, sprouted wheat bread), and find that those artificial sweetners cause me to want sugar. I don't think that our bodies can tell the difference between it and sugar. I think it may be a BIG contributor to our fat nation. The only sweetner I would consider is stevia(comes from a plant)-lots of those others contain strange chemicals. Your comparison to the tobacco industry is right on!
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jessie1326

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Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 09:39
Fortunately, aspartame isn't the only game in town anymore! Smile There are several "natural" substitutes that are gaining popularity, such as stevia and agave nectar. I believe stevia is zero-cal, and agave nectar is supposed to be sweeter than sugar, so a smaller amount goes farther. I was just reading in one of my magazines about the substitutes and whether they are "worth trying"...I think it was Health magazine? I'll try to find it and link it. Smile
Tressatnt

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Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 10:19
My personal opinion here: Sugar substitutes are poison! I'm not going to search for a bunch of links to back up my view on this, but I'm just advising you to stay away from them. Aspartame almost killed my mother. She and my dad were doing atkins and using aspartame and eating "sugar free" stuff and slowly she started feeling funny and having MS-like symptoms. She went to neurologists and everything and they couldn't find anything wrong with her. She'd be in meetings giving presentations and her face would go numb. She stopped being able to walk because one leg was numb. She remembers looking out the window at the snow and thinking it could be her last Christmas. And then one day she was going through the drive-thru for french fries and DIET COKE and it just hit her like a lead balloon. The fake sugar! She stopped using it and eventually all symptoms went away. It was the scariest time of our lives (well second now) because I thought I was going to lose my mom and we almost did, if she had kept taking the fake sugar. Now, given my story, I will also say that everyone seems to react differently to it. Myself, I react similar to my mom. I find that my mouth will twitch when I talk and so I had to stop chewing sugar free gum. Can't have any of those sugar free jello snacks that dieters love. I have to be really careful. I have a diet soda here and there. My mom doesn't go near it anymore. You can believe me or not and ask for scientific proof, but this is a personal story. I felt compelled to share because it was such a real, scary time in our family's lives. BTW Splenda is the same stuff, as far as I know, it's all "poison". Real sugar is what is best for you.
I apologize for my emotional rant in response to this Smile
k8yk

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Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 10:42
I agree 100% with Tressa.
If Mother Nature didn't grow it, I don't consume it. There may or may not be negative effects to ingesting these chemicals, but I'm not going to be the body they do their experiments on. Besides, it all tastes gross and nothing like real sugar.
I would rather have my iced tea and coffee with NO sugar than these chemicals. But honestly, if I want sugar I have it. One packet is 10-15 calories. In the grand scheme of things, this means very little as long as you have it in moderation. I put cream in my coffee too Shock

Besides my personal feelings, there is also this:
Artificial Sweeteners Linked to Weight Gain
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LisaMWitt

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Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 11:59
Splenda is made by taking sugar and substituting sucrose atoms with chlorine atoms to form sucralose. It was tested for 20 years before being put on sale. Stevia is an herb in the chrysanthemum family. It was researched as early as 1899 as a sweetner and has been widely used since the 1970's in some countries. Aspartame is a chemical discovered in 1965 and approved in 1985. Sugar free candy is made with sorbitol which is made by reducing glucose from plants until chemical changes take place. I couldn't find specific info on how long it's been used. Large quantities of it cause diarrhea. Saccharin (Equal) was discovered in 1879 when scientists were messing with toluene. It was studied in the 1970's, but that's about it. Cyclamate is made with chemicals and has been illegal in the US since the 1970's but is still available in some countries. There is also another 20 or so artificial sweeteners made by modifying sugar that are included in a variety of foods. Large quantities of sugar will make you fat, large quantities (100 times the RDI) of artificial sweeteners can cause a variety of things. Some people are more sensitive and affected with small amounts. I got into the habit of using splenda in drinks when I had gestational diabetes. I went back to normal after the pregnancy, but now I can't stand the taste of sugar in my drinks. So it's up to you. I say, to each his own and moderation is always key.
hottagain

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Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 12:17
why doesn't anyone talk about honey? I get it from farm markets (local beekeepers). As for agave nectar there is a debate about agave, alot of vegans use it, however it is processed as in heat treated, I personally don't use it I would rather honey. I try to eat the same things my grandparents did, maybe not all the butter or lard, but whole grain, fresh local foods. It might sound snobby, some people think it is bc of all these new trends, I just grew up with farms everywhere, and most people esp old timers just eat that way. Most of them like my great uncle are well into the 80's we should learn something from that. What I hate the most is margarine, I just don't get it, just eat less butter anyone agree?
jessyline

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Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 13:27
I like your post Hottagain! I wish more people would eat this way...
health is a choice. it's a gift we choose to do to ourselves.
Tressatnt

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Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 13:51
It was just my personal opinion and experience with that stuff. Neither I or my mom had "large" quantities. I hardly had much and I felt some effects. Like I said, people seem to respond differently to it. We are obviously more sensitive to it than others. I just don't trust any of that stuff and try to limit how much of it I consume, I try to avoid it in most cases.
rjenkins27

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Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 14:05
I do all the artificial sweeteners (a lot) and don't have any issues (of which I'm aware). My biggest issue right now is excess weight. After I take care of that I will look at others. Bottom line as has been stated - to each his own and I also believe that moderation in all things is good advice.
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LisaMWitt

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Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 14:22
hottagain wrote:
why doesn't anyone talk about honey?


Honey is excellent in tea! And it makes a good substitute in recipes when you want to cut down on sugar and oil, as does apple sauce.
gr00vygirl

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Posted: 09 Apr 2010, 14:28
This post has got me thinking about my health. I have been getting ill a lot lately which although I dont have any definitive answers a lot of advice is putting it down to my exercise regime being too hardcore. It is intensive but I dont think I am over training as is being suggested. A few times recently my toes have gone numb, which I have put down to the cold weather (putting on socks did help 2 times but not the third). I consume quite a lot of sweetener. Well, less the last few weeks but I have it in cereal and in tea. I am now wondering if this is to blame for my ill health? I actually bought some natural honey today so I might just use that for now and see if my health improves.
Debash54

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Posted: 11 Apr 2010, 07:16
I agree honey is an excellent sweetner, but it has a very high sugar content if you're on a sugar busters diet. There are honey-like substitutes and sometimes I use sugar-free maple syrup to sweeten my tea, etc.
chickie9999

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Posted: 11 Apr 2010, 09:18
Remember, everything in moderation! You consume enough of anything its going to make you sick... even vitamin C will upset the stomach! There are so many elements in our world that affect us that if you're not consuming chemicals and preservatives you're breathing in pollutants.

It's a vicious cycle and we can all try to eat and drink natural but even the natural stuff contains preservatives. Many of those preservatives cause the body to stall in weight loss.

There's no winning, so everything in moderation - don't sweat the small stuff and create unnecessary stress for yourself... or your cortisol levels will go up and that too will slow down weight loss too!
k8yk

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Posted: 11 Apr 2010, 10:19
It is totally possible, though not quite as easy, to avoid preservatives as well. For the last 2 months, all of my groceries have been chemical free.
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Toddsgal

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Posted: 11 Apr 2010, 13:28
I switched to Stevia about 6 months ago and notice a huge difference. The main reason for the switch was that I was getting headaches!! I researched and thought I'd stop with the artificial sweetner - just to see!! Well, it worked....Stevia is very sweet, you use very little and at first I noticed the licorice taste. But now I'm quite accustomed to it and enjoy it. I don't really use alot, daily in my coffee and on my mixed berries. The biggest difference....no more headaches!!! And that alone has made it worthwhileWink Give it a try - I think you'll find it's worth the changeSmile



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