I'm slightly confused with my diet

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CheshireKat

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Posted: 26 Dec 2013, 20:36
Okay, so when I joined here, they started me off with about 3,300 calories a day, but I've already given myself the calorie intake of 1,500, but I rarely ever hit that calorie mark either. 700 seems to be the amount of calories I intake daily and since I started recording (in my other fitness journal) I don't intake anymore than 20g of fat daily normally.

However, that being said...my carbs are high. Around the 70 mark range. I've read different things and I am so lost. Are carbs a good thing or a bad thing?

My exercise normally includes running since late August, nothing serious, just a couple of miles daily. Weight training, and beginner's yoga. I was told carbs are good for running, but I'm not a marathon runner by any means.
mummydee

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Posted: 26 Dec 2013, 21:16
Wow, that's a high calorie intake as far as i'm concerned, try this site... about.com https://caloriecount.about.com/register It hits a better level than most sites.

My philosophy is to eat healthy and weight loss will follow. Cut out all 'whites' white sugar , white flour and white starches. Eat 'good ' carbs.. which are real natural wonderful foods like vegetables especially the dark leafy greens. a little fruit ...and if your body can tolerate it, some healthy non gmo'd grains like kamut and spelt. Bad carbs are all the processed foods that have no nutrional value and keep the food industry in business.
Eat good fats like avocados and olive oil to keep you full. If you don't consume processed foods/ sugars etc , your body will use these fats for fuel and you will burn them off.
Eggs are a wonderful super food.
If you are going to consume rice at least make it wild rice or a variety that has some nutrition in it.
When you eat low fat yogurt, you'll find that it's higher in sugars . Eat real 0% fat yogurt and put real fruit in it the night before.. by morning it will be flavoured and natural. no chemicals.
Margarine is chemical crap. eat real butter , flies won't even eat margarine, they know better!!
CheshireKat

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Posted: 26 Dec 2013, 21:23
Thanks for the feedback!

Mummydee- I normally don't consume margarine, but when I'm home for the holidays, it's what my grandparents have in the house. I'm not big on butter either, I just like something on my english muffin in the morning. I'll switch up the yogurt though as I normally consume that.

Saintblackangel- I was pretty surprise by the calories as well. I definitely like the idea of just watching the calories. Thanks!
mummydee

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Posted: 26 Dec 2013, 21:29
my daughter started Weight watchers online and has loved it! you can't do it here on FS but it might be something that would work for you. No meetings, just log in your food on your phone etc . And by doing that you also learn healthy eating habits. good luck to you!
Vulture1976

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Posted: 26 Dec 2013, 21:40
Bad Carbs: SUGAR

Good Carbs: From fruit only 2 pieces a day, Oatmeal, Potatoes, Rice. All these in moderation offcourse and try not to eat carbs in the evening before sleep.

Fat is not your enemy, it is sugar that you want too avoid.

remember that your body will burn 2000 Kcal just too function normally, so stay at around 1500 to 2000 Kcal but never under 1500. Increase your Kcal intake abit when you are more active. Stay around 500 Kcal per day under your Kcal that you burn per day.

Good luck, keep it up.
CheshireKat

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Posted: 26 Dec 2013, 21:49
I will try to increase my calorie intake...I just don't find myself eating as much since I started my new workout routine. I'm not starving myself, I guess I just don't find myself as hungry and maybe it's because of the amount of water I drink. I try to drink at least 8 glasses since I have dropped soda completely for almost 6 months now.

I'll have to adjust my diet it seems. Smile
db1202

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Posted: 26 Dec 2013, 22:03
Yes there is a lot of information out there, a lot of people giving advice on weight loss and most completely contradict the last one you just read. What it all boils down to is, who do you trust? Why should you trust any of this info?

The easy answer:
Search sites that you know have experts giving advice in the field you are researching. Such as, the mayo clinic. Or if you like what you read on a particular web site you should check the page for the author's credentials (usually at the top left or bottom of the page). With little effort you can usually verify those credentials yourself. As to your question, are Carbs good or bad? The simple answer is yes. Just as fat is good and bad and protein is good and bad for you.

So it’s down to minding your Ps and Qs. Portions and Quality. I wish I still had the link to the site I read this on, but it was from http://www.everydayhealth.com . The most commonly agreed upon ratios are in the ranges of Fat = 20 – 35 percent, Protein = 10 – 35 percent, and Carbs = 45 – 60 percent. Now, that doesn’t mean you can eat whatever you want within these ratios and expect to lose weight or be healthy. http://woman.thenest.com/recommended-daily-intake-calories-carbs-fat-sodium-protein-1101.html

I won’t do all the work for you and it wouldn’t do you any good because you have to find your own path and what works best for you. But as an after note I’ll tell you that 700 Calories a day is a starvation diet and will fail. You see, when you are on a starvation diet your metabolism slows and your weight loss will stall and you could possibly (believe it or not) put on more weight. The minimum amount of calories you should take in a day is approximately 1200 and that is not taking into account your activity level. Happy hunting.
I wish you the best of luck in your goals,
DavidB.
mummydee

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Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 05:52
So db1202 are you suggesting that all posts prior to yours are bunk and not to be trusted but your information is?
The purpose of this site is for people to post what they've learned along their journey of weight loss and then offer their opinions and advice. Its up to the reader to accept what she wants and I do agree with you on the 'do your research' bit. But you will also find "Experts" that completely disagree and contradict each other. Such as the studies done in the 50's that blamed Fats for causing heart attacks and raising cholestrol. The Bad Sugar studies were swept under the rug as being false. Now the "Experts" have changed their minds and say Sugar is the enemy not Fats.... I tend to agree with this way of thinking and have been off sugar for almost 20 years.
Anyway, my point being that this site is to read opinions and learn and most importantly learn what works for you as an individual.
db1202

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Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 09:04
No mummydee, I was not referring to this site or it's members at all. CheshireKat said she was reading things that confused her and I was suggesting that she pick the expert's opinions that fit the lifestyle she would like to lead and how to determine if they are actually experts. The advice I gave has worked and is working for me, but may not work for anyone else and even though it has worked for me in the past doesn't mean it will continue to work. So, take home: keep studying, keep looking for a better way, there is no one perfect right way. Also, when I wrote and posted to this topic I did not see anyone else's reply until after I posted because there is no auto refresh and I did not refresh the page.
wholefoodnut

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Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 10:23
mummydee so funny abt your margarine post!! I've started using a mix of butter and olive oil with a bit of nonfat powdered milk instead. Adapted from Laurel's Kitchen ( a 70's natural food cookbook) Really good and it cuts down that amt of butter that I use. Mix it in my processor and freeze it in small containers.

Different eating plans work for different people. 700 calories is definately starvation mode though.

"Its not enough for the food to just be nutritious. It must also be delicious, or eating will feel like a punishment." Meg Galvin, Smartpeople Cookbook.

Jeri
CheshireKat

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Posted: 27 Dec 2013, 13:00
I understand that the 700 calories is low, so I guess I'll have to eat food that is higher in calories. When I weighed over 240lbs, I always found myself hungry, but since dropping all the weight, I really just don't find myself very hungry. I have a light breakfast, and a nice dinner. I think my problem lies in the fact that I normally don't have lunch and I should probably start making time for it.

I appreciate everyone's input, and I have been researching quite a bit since.
Mjgh06

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Posted: 28 Dec 2013, 16:08
My two cents - 700 calories is not to low depending on the diet or way of eating you are using. I use Atkins and Juddd. My calories ranges from 0 to 1700 was the highest day. On average it is usually around 700-800. I have lost a lot of weight in 12 weeks and continue to lose at a good pace. The real key is getting to know your body and what works for it. We all are different and have different metabolisms, health issues, stressors in life, medications - all of which can effect weight loss.

Personally, I have a huge problem with appetite as I am never hungry. Plus with my medical issues and medications I have had a difficult time losing until I started the plan I am on now. I am also under doctor's supervision on my woe and have not lost any muscle. For me I lose better when my fat% is around 73-75, and I cannot go over 10n carbs or I start to gain again.

My point is we have to find what works for us as individuals and although we can all give out advice, what we do may not work for the other person. You have got to learn for yourself what works for you. Do the research on different eating plans, find one you like and stick with it for awhile.
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Mjgh06

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Posted: 28 Dec 2013, 16:09
My two cents - 700 calories is not to low depending on the diet or way of eating you are using. I use Atkins and Juddd. My calories ranges from 0 to 1700 was the highest day. On average it is usually around 700-800. I have lost a lot of weight in 12 weeks and continue to lose at a good pace. The real key is getting to know your body and what works for it. We all are different and have different metabolisms, health issues, stressors in life, medications - all of which can effect weight loss.

Personally, I have a huge problem with appetite as I am never hungry. Plus with my medical issues and medications I have had a difficult time losing until I started the plan I am on now. I am also under doctor's supervision on my woe and have not lost any muscle. For me I lose better when my fat% is around 73-75, and I cannot go over 10n carbs or I start to gain again.

My point is we have to find what works for us as individuals and although we can all give out advice, what we do may not work for the other person. You have got to learn for yourself what works for you. Do the research on different eating plans, find one you like and stick with it for awhile.
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Mjgh06

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Posted: 28 Dec 2013, 16:11
My two cents - 700 calories is not to low depending on the diet or way of eating you are using. I use Atkins and IF. My calories ranges from 0 to 1700 was the highest day. On average it is usually around 700-800. I have lost a lot of weight in 12 weeks and continue to lose at a good pace. The real key is getting to know your body and what works for it. We all are different and have different metabolisms, health issues, stressors in life, medications - all of which can effect weight loss.

Personally, I have a huge problem with appetite as I am never hungry. Plus with my medical issues and medications I have had a difficult time losing until I started the plan I am on now. I am also under doctor's supervision on my woe and have not lost any muscle. For me I lose better when my fat% is around 73-75, and I cannot go over 10n carbs or I start to gain again.

My point is we have to find what works for us as individuals and although we can all give out advice, what we do may not work for the other person. You have got to learn for yourself what works for you. Do the research on different eating plans, find one you like and stick with it for awhile.
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mummydee

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Posted: 28 Dec 2013, 22:19
Fair enough DB1202, Advice, Opinions, Experts etc.. all to be taken with a grain of salt, most important, find what works for you.
Cheshire, my best advice is to eliminate as much of the processed non nutritional foods as possible. Add in more good healthy fats such as avocados and some more proteins, maybe a hard boiled egg as a snack? Dark green vegetables are my favourite. The healthier you eat the better you will feel and the best side effect is weight loss.
wholefoodnut

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Posted: 29 Dec 2013, 08:12
Mummydee and i seem to agree alot especially eating whole nonprocessed food and doing what works for you

"Its not enough for the food to just be nutritious. It must also be delicious, or eating will feel like a punishment." Meg Galvin, Smartpeople Cookbook.

Jeri
CheshireKat

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Posted: 29 Dec 2013, 13:03
I will try to eliminate the processed foods, but it's kinda hard living in the dorm life. But I can definitely add more greens, vegetables, and fruits.
wholefoodnut

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Posted: 29 Dec 2013, 13:33
Definately hard to do @ school. Just make the best choices you can from what' s available.

"Its not enough for the food to just be nutritious. It must also be delicious, or eating will feel like a punishment." Meg Galvin, Smartpeople Cookbook.

Jeri
lovingmomma

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Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 13:14
Keep carb intake lower, you don't have to go all out low carb, but cut them out as much as you can. I would aim for around 100 Fats are amaizing, your body needs them. My favorites are olive oil, coconut oil, and butter. You need to increase your calories, you may not feel hungry, your stomach has probably shrunk, and your metabolism has probably slowed if 700 is normal. At that low of a calorie intake your body stops being able to perform as well as it should to conserve energy, you will most likely not be able to build muscle, your body is probably using muscle as fuel. Which if your excercising to become fit is definitly not what you want. A lot of people will say it doesn't matter what you eat, just calories in, vs calories out. This is true to an extent, but what you eat does matter because it effects your metabolism, which makes you burn more or less. Your metabolism is probably really low at this point and your going to have to work to repair it. I don't count calories anymore because it made me obsessive not over the quality of food, but the calorie content. A handful of almonds is much more fulfilling and full of nutrients then a 100 calorie pack, and will sustain you longer, but has more calories. The quality of food is important. Eat fats, good proteins veggies and limited fruit and grains, and eat enough of it. Everyone's different so you will have to expirement to see what suits your body best. I do not do good with wheat or sugar at all, and loose weight best at 50-100 carbs. I also have more energy and less mood swings when I eat this way. You will have to experiment and see what fits your body best.


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lauraab

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Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 14:51
So true on "quality" of food Lovingmama! I totally agree. I can also eat a lot of fat in my diet and not gain weight since I mainly use monounsaturated/polyunsaturated fats. Coconut oil is great since it is a MCT which we burn right through and it does not stick around on our physiques....thank goodness!

CheshireCat, you are in a really tough position right now being in college and living the dorm life. Brings to mind the "freshman 15" saying LOL!



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