Help! No weight loss during week 2 of Induction

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JMatosky

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Posted: 09 Jul 2012, 07:05
I don't understand. Week 1, I lost 4 lbs. I did everything exactly the same and nothing during week 2. I havent eaten more than 20 net carbs on any given day, in fact, I usually eat more like 15-18. My ketone strips say Im in mild to moderate ketosis each day. Whats wrong? This makes me want to stop!! Ugh.

I first did Atkins about 15 yrs ago after having my first son, and it worked pretty well, but was hard to stay on track working in a restaurant and there was no support for the diet, no such thing as internet like there is now. And the carbs were just carbs, no net carbs. I did it about a year after that using my own vitamins and not the Atkins Basic 3 or Essential Oils and it didnt work as well. I know they dont sell them anymore, but do the type of vitamins make a difference! Its been a concern of mine since I started 2 weeks ago. I just have an OTC multivitamin w/ no iron and an Omega 3-6-9 Oil

Why did they stop selling the vitamins when they recommend a very specific formula, and Im wondering if weight loss is not as successful without that specific formula? I see that Vitacost has a low carb dieter's vitamin, I will get that. But Im very discouraged today.
mjtudor

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Posted: 09 Jul 2012, 07:31
Are you drinking plenty of water and watching your ratios of fat, protein, and carbs? Also, are you eating enough calories? Are you double checking the labels of everything you eat to look for hidden sugars and sticking to induction-only approved foods? I just started induction yesterday, so I am by no means an expert, but based on what I have read on the message boards those are the problems most people have. Also, are you eating the bars/shakes? A lot of people claim their weight loss stalls if they eat them because of the sugar alcohols.

Another thing to keep in mind is your hormones. Perhaps you are nearing your TOM? Several women on the boards have said they either gain or stay the same during this time, but then go back to losing afterwards.
JMatosky

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Posted: 09 Jul 2012, 10:14
I am definitely drinking enough water. If I drink any more water, I am going to float away! Its funny you say that.. my TOM was last week! It was longer than usual.. lasted from Sunday to Saturday, but I figured when I weighed in this morning that would have been irrelevant since it was gone! Maybe that was it.. I also looked back at my food journal and I dont think I ate enough calories. My avg in week one was around 1525.. last week it was more like 1300... and my RDI is more like 1800 since Im 5'4" and 164 and while I dont do much purposeful exercise I wouldnt say Im sedentary, not with 5 children, including 10 month old twin boys and a full time job to boot.. and Im a single mom! So.. I dont know. Im still on as of this morning Smile I dont like the taste of artificial sweeteners so I dont drink the shakes and I like a couple of the bars but I limit that to one per day, if that. I havent needed to read many labels because everything Ive been eating has been fresh prepared by me.. fresh meats and veggies only. So I dont know! Im at a loss.
JMatosky

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Posted: 09 Jul 2012, 10:15
And Im seriously perplexed about the vitamin issue. I wish someone had an answer for me on that! I feel like it really has something to do with it. Like if you dont take the correct supplements, you will not be successful!
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Posted: 09 Jul 2012, 10:20
Jmatosky,

Your calorie intake looks sufficient enough. After reading everything I would say your TOM may be the factor... I'd have to know more but I'd wait another week and see how everything goes.
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JMatosky

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Posted: 09 Jul 2012, 10:40
I will stick with it and see what happens this week. A few tweaks to my net carbs and fats I think are in order.. I dont think Im getting enough of either.. my avg net carbs is about 14..
umdterpsgirl

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Posted: 09 Jul 2012, 11:28
So honest question here...if you don't see a significant loss in another week, then what? Are you just going to give up? Switch to some other "miracle diet". Loosing weight takes time and the most effective weight loss is slow. At the beginning of any diet/weight loss plan, most people see an immediate drop in weight. This is mostly due to water loss and having less mass in your digestive system (because you are probably eating less). Taking a quick glance, it looks like you are doing things right, so stick with it. The weight will come off with time. Remember, it's a marathon, not a sprint.
fredmugs

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Posted: 09 Jul 2012, 12:42
I don't do Atkins but I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to eat the Atkins bars during induction. Mostly because they mislead you as to the true amount of net carbs.
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Sandy701

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Posted: 09 Jul 2012, 13:24
While many Atkins bars are labeled as appropriate for Phase 1, Induction, they should be viewed as emergency foods, IMO. The overall load of sugar alcohols can make them problematic. The few days I looked at in your food diary showed 2 bars on each of those days and it looked as if you didn't have so many in your first week.

The other issue to be aware of (because it caused me a MAJOR problem) is the Redi-Wip. If you have a sensitive food scale, try weighing out 1 serving of the stuff.....it's hard to do and it's not very much at all! If you're not really, really careful, you can add lots of calories and lots of carbs without realizing it.....I know because I did that.

All in all, the more you can stick to real foods....fresh foods....and nothing processed.....the better you'll do. You can always test your results with the processed stuff at a later point, when your weight loss is nice and steady and you have a better feel for how Atkins is working for you this time around.

As far as the vitamins are concerned, I don't think it makes any difference on one's weight loss, but that's just an opinion. I've taken many multi's and continue to do so, but I don't think the brand makes a difference. I suspect that any difference you're seeing in results is a matter of being older (happens to the best of us) and any changes you've made in how you're doing this WOE....then vs. now.

Stay the course. And consider dropping those bars, at least for now. Good luck.
RoseTampa

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Posted: 09 Jul 2012, 22:41
The atkin's bars and drinks can stall a lot of people. Some people can handle sugar alcohols and some can't. I find that when I eat them I stall. When I stop them I lose weight. Try cutting them out and see what happens.
JMatosky

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Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 17:25
Im not eating any more bars this week to see if that helps. The ones I was eating said they were suitable for Induction and that I could have up to 2/day... but I dont trust that now. I also switched to a homemade heavy whipping cream w/ just a touch of splenda, instead of the reddi whip.

And no, Im not going to quit if I still dont see results this week.. but I cant promise I wont eat a Big Mac, with the bread, before I continue on. haha! I know it takes time.. and Im prepared for that, but seeing a zero is never encouraging, especially when you think you did everything right. The atkins forum gave some additional ideas for tweaking what Im doing so between all of you guys, I think I got some pretty good advice.

I am motivated this time around.. 20th high school reunion coming up and all.. and Ive tried WW and i struggle with that too. (Im apparently impatient!) But I'd rather struggle and eat a steak, bacon and butter than struggle and eat air all day. Smile
chinooken

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Posted: 14 Jul 2012, 17:59
RoseTampa wrote:
The atkin's bars and drinks can stall a lot of people. Some people can handle sugar alcohols and some can't. I find that when I eat them I stall. When I stop them I lose weight. Try cutting them out and see what happens.


There is definitely something to what you are saying. I found that one shake or a bar a day has been ok for me but two or a shake and a bar then I stall completely and actually feel cruddy for a few days.
I've heard that the chains of habit are generally too small to be felt until they are too strong to be broken. That just means you have to unravel them instead. We can do it!
ark4two

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Posted: 22 Jul 2012, 16:16
I was stuck and didnt see a change and figured I wasn't eating enough net carbs and foundations vegies. Everybody ket telling me not to just look at scale but to take measurements and check clothes. Since building my net carb count back up I have seen a diference.
Neesee71

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Posted: 22 Jul 2012, 18:12
Going into week 4. Down 7 pounds. I have been drinking an atkins shake a day. I am going to have to cut out my sugar free creamer. I am looking for a replacement for my coffee creamer. Any suggestions?
tehmunchies

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Posted: 23 Jul 2012, 03:47
The majority of your weight loss in week one was most likely water weight. If you look at my weight history, you'll find an initial 4.6 lb drop in weight. Then afterward, you see a more gradual weight loss in the following weeks. Several different factors contributed to this large drop in weight (like just ending my ToM, less sodium, etc).

When I believed in Atkins approximately 2 years ago, I lost ~5 lbs first week and gradually lost afterward. I was a diehard Atkins believer, staying under 10g per day. I was malnourished and thought I knew about nutrition. When I stopped losing weight, I blamed it on carbs. Then I learned a lil bit:

You see, carbs alone determine neither weight loss, nor gain. This means Atkins is unnecessary. You can eat 100+ grams of carbs and lose weight. Many people do this every day. And even upwards to 400+ grams (depending on their energy needs). Atkins is more of a marketing technique. They want you to buy their low carb shakes, bars and other products--which are, shockingly, Atkins approved! See what I mean?

What really determines weight loss/gain? Calories ultimately. Calories in (food/drink intake) VS calories out (exercise, daily living/body functions, etc).
A nice quote:
"What you need to understand is that bodyweight is a function of energy balance." -Wonderpug from bb.com
It makes sense when you think of it:
How can you gain weight when you're not in a caloric surplus; how are you going to store energy (calories) when you don't have an excess? It's not just pulled out of thin air and slapped on you by little fairies.
Or how can you lose weight when not in a caloric deficit; how will stored energy be used when there's no need for it to be burned? Just like it's not pulled out of thin air, it's not going to disappear magically.
Remember in science class in school when you were told something like "Energy cannot be created or destroyed; it can only change form." This applies here.

It doesn't just end with calories, though, if you want to ensure optimal health and have that lean, "toned" appearance rather than a skinny-fat appearance, etc.

If you'd like to learn more, visit:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13
^And start with the stickies. The information on there is free. You don't need to spend your hard-earned money on shakes, bars, etc. All you need is a few minutes and an open, willing-to-learn mindset.
If you have questions or need help, you can ask the forum linked above, or send a message to my inbox. Smile
acasmierasol...

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Posted: 15 Oct 2012, 09:49
Atkins for me is more of a blood sugar issue. When I have simple carbs and sugar, my blood sugar goes crazy. However, on Atkins it stays around 65. Weight Watchers also worked but ultimately I just couldn't tell myself to have only a small amount of bread or sugar, it was an addiction. It's so much easier to say no after giving it up cold turkey.
hsmith0930

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Posted: 23 Oct 2012, 16:26
tehmunchies wrote:
The majority of your weight loss in week one was most likely water weight. If you look at my weight history, you'll find an initial 4.6 lb drop in weight. Then afterward, you see a more gradual weight loss in the following weeks. Several different factors contributed to this large drop in weight (like just ending my ToM, less sodium, etc).

When I believed in Atkins approximately 2 years ago, I lost ~5 lbs first week and gradually lost afterward. I was a diehard Atkins believer, staying under 10g per day. I was malnourished and thought I knew about nutrition. When I stopped losing weight, I blamed it on carbs. Then I learned a lil bit:

You see, carbs alone determine neither weight loss, nor gain. This means Atkins is unnecessary. You can eat 100+ grams of carbs and lose weight. Many people do this every day. And even upwards to 400+ grams (depending on their energy needs). Atkins is more of a marketing technique. They want you to buy their low carb shakes, bars and other products--which are, shockingly, Atkins approved! See what I mean?

What really determines weight loss/gain? Calories ultimately. Calories in (food/drink intake) VS calories out (exercise, daily living/body functions, etc).
A nice quote:
"What you need to understand is that bodyweight is a function of energy balance." -Wonderpug from bb.com
It makes sense when you think of it:
How can you gain weight when you're not in a caloric surplus; how are you going to store energy (calories) when you don't have an excess? It's not just pulled out of thin air and slapped on you by little fairies.
Or how can you lose weight when not in a caloric deficit; how will stored energy be used when there's no need for it to be burned? Just like it's not pulled out of thin air, it's not going to disappear magically.
Remember in science class in school when you were told something like "Energy cannot be created or destroyed; it can only change form." This applies here.

It doesn't just end with calories, though, if you want to ensure optimal health and have that lean, "toned" appearance rather than a skinny-fat appearance, etc.

If you'd like to learn more, visit:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13
^And start with the stickies. The information on there is free. You don't need to spend your hard-earned money on shakes, bars, etc. All you need is a few minutes and an open, willing-to-learn mindset.
If you have questions or need help, you can ask the forum linked above, or send a message to my inbox. Smile


That's all well and good, until it isn't. It isn't always a simple calorie deficit issue. If you do a small bit of research, you will learn that people with metabolic syndrome, pre-diabetes, or diabetes are unable to process carbohydrates properly. Even in deficit the body doesn't produce the right amount of insulin to break the sugar down for use, so the body changes it to fat ans stores it. This can lead to spikes and dips in blood sugar, which leads to unmanageable cravings and binges, which perpetuates the cycle. Even if the number of calories consumed is less than the number of calories burned in the day, if the body is not processing sugars correctly, they WILL turn to fat and be stored instead of used.
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I suggest you to take detox products. It works great for weight loss.

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